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In a fight to the Death between these two teams... who wins and why?

Dark X-Men:
*Mystique
*Dark Wolverine (Daken)
*Mimic
*Dark Beast

VS

Uncanny X-Force
*Wolverine
*X-23
*Psylocke
*Deadpool

Mimic

Mimic was a joke.

And where is Omega and Fantomex?

ahha I forgot about those guys and Deathlok... and I noticed I forgot to change the name Title which should read: Dark X-Men Vs. Uncanny X-Force damn new narcotic medication... Anyway lets add some new members to the teams...

Dark X-Men:
*Emma Frost.
*Weapon Omega

VS

Uncanny X-Force:
*Fantomex
*Deathlok

So with these new characters added to the teams who would win this fight and why?

emma vs betsy

We're using Daken from the time when he was in Osborn's X-Men, that is when he still had muramasa claws?

Deathlok Prime had some neat tricks...

Hmm should Daken have the muramasa claws? and what about Fantomex's TP Dampening tech which can keep out Psylocke and the Shadow King... Im not quite sure but did Fantomex's TP dampening Tech keep out Emma and Charles too?

Originally posted by RyanAutumns
Hmm should Daken have the muramasa claws? and what about Fantomex's TP Dampening tech which can keep out Psylocke and the Shadow King... Im not quite sure but did Fantomex's TP dampening Tech keep out Emma and Charles too?

According to default rules we use current versions, so no. But the title says Dark X-Men... and he stopped being a part of this team after DA/UXM cross-over

Charles and Jean. Fantomex is pretty much immune to TP, yeah. Wolverine's resistance is nothing to laugh at either, he no-sold Emma's TP on one occasion.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
According to default rules we use current versions, so no. But the title says Dark X-Men... and he stopped being a part of this team after DA/UXM cross-over

Charles and Jean. Fantomex is pretty much immune to TP, yeah. Wolverine's resistance is nothing to laugh at either, he no-sold Emma's TP on one occasion.

Intresting... hmm so I wonder which team would win this fight as their pretty much evenly matched... I wanna say Uncanny X-Force but Im not sure yet. Who do you think would win this? and why?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
According to default rules we use current versions, so no. But the title says Dark X-Men... and he stopped being a part of this team after DA/UXM cross-over

Charles and Jean. Fantomex is pretty much immune to TP, yeah. Wolverine's resistance is nothing to laugh at either, he no-sold Emma's TP on one occasion.

Emma has Wolverine's number in mind-raping him. She's gotten him more times then he's resisted and she had no problem getting past his "scared tissue" recently when he was powered by Demons.

Fantomex is protected with plates.

Psylocke gets beat down badly. She wasn't even considered powerful enough to trap in the brig in AoX.

Mimic and Weapon Omega...this is a stomp in the Dark X-Mens favour.

Originally posted by RyanAutumns
Intresting... hmm so I wonder which team would win this fight as their pretty much evenly matched... I wanna say Uncanny X-Force but Im not sure yet. Who do you think would win this? and why?

Haven't made up my mind yet. Dark X-Men have the advantage in raw power, but they don't have X-Force's teamwork. It depends on the match-ups, really.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Emma has Wolverine's number in mind-raping him. She's gotten him more times then he's resisted and she had no problem getting past his "scared tissue" recently when he was powered by Demons.

Fantomex is protected with plates.

Psylocke gets beat down badly. She wasn't even considered powerful enough to trap in the brig in AoX.

Mimic and Weapon Omega...this is a stomp in the Dark X-Mens favour.

Logan's mind was being destroyed then, though. And it's a different use of TP, anyway - entering someone's mind, fine. Giving him an order to stop his action - a bit harder, no?

In Astonishing X-Men, prior to his psi-shields? When did X4 take place, before or after Vendetta? Got any more examples?

Both Mimic and Omega are jobbers and cowards that I'm not sure I can treat seriously.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Haven't made up my mind yet. Dark X-Men have the advantage in raw power, but they don't have X-Force's teamwork. It depends on the match-ups, really.



Logan's mind was being destroyed then, though. And it's a different use of TP, anyway - entering someone's mind, fine. Giving him an order to stop his action - a bit harder, no?

In Astonishing X-Men, prior to his psi-shields? When did X4 take place, before or after Vendetta? Got any more examples?

Both Mimic and Omega are jobbers and cowards that I'm not sure I can treat seriously.

Logans protection was his scarred brain tissue. That scarred tissue offered him no protection in Wolverine #8 or whatever from intrusion. On top of that, that incident occured right after her little scuffle with Xavier. Scott and Emma just got back.

Wolverine Origins at the beginning she telepathically stops him and Cyclops.

She froze him in HoM.

How is Astonishing X-Men prior to his psi-shields? He's always had psi-shields. The torn arc occurs right before Blinded by the Light.

Psi-bolting him in their first encounter.

X4.

Hmm what else...oh yes recently in Agents of Atlas vs X-Men...the Uranian got him with a telepathic illusion.

Also Wolverine's level 9 psi-shields...were mentioned in his series as was Emma being a level 10 telepath.

On paper, Weapon Omega should be a monster.

But what a wasted character.

So Dark X-Men win?? I have a question would Emma Frost be able to telepathically "Peirce" Fantomex's TP blocking plates? Cause the Shadow King could not get through them and neither could Jean Grey or Professor X... So I'm thinking Fantomex could take out Emma and Uncanny X-Force might have a chance of winning... IDK that's just my opinion though