Green Lantern (2011)

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leezuki
i was going to watch green lantern but people keep trashing it, just want to know if it's really worth going to watch.

the ninjak
It was bloody awful.

leezuki
Originally posted by the ninjak
It was bloody awful. really that bad i have 2 say i am getting tired of super hero movies but i was looking forward to this one gutted.

jaden101
I'll just copy and paste my completely ignored post from the comic book movie forum...Seeing as there seems to be a lot of teenage dick wagging going on in there. (Better get over there RJ...That's your kind of thing)


Don't know all that much about the Green Lantern comics so everything story wise and how it relates to the comics isn't something I can speak on so my criticisms are entirely about the stand alone movie.

1st off the CGI was absolutely piss poor. I've seen movies made 10 years ago that look better (Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within as an example)

There is close on no action...Literally 5 minutes...Not what you expect from a comic book movie at all...As an origin movie you expect it to be slow...But not that slow.

Overall....Not good at all...Hate to say it but Marvel movies are a lot better than DC movies...And DC is leaving their hopes in the hands of Zach Snyder...Hmmm...I worry.

Kazenji
Originally posted by the ninjak
It was bloody awful.

Hows life as a pirate

Originally posted by jaden101
Overall....Not good at all...Hate to say it but Marvel movies are a lot better than DC movies...And DC is leaving their hopes in the hands of Zach Snyder...Hmmm...I worry.

at least DC tried to go with something different rather then Batman & Supes all the time.

leezuki
what i thought to many super hero movies being made.

zoeyy
heya how cum u not speaking today x

DARTH POWER
The idea/concept was good, so "Could" have been a good movie. But unfortunately the direction of the movie was very poor. It just didn't flow well. It randomly shifted from Space to Earth. And even on Earth the scenes were pretty random. They should have made it like Green Lantern: First Flight animated. Would have been much better basing the whole thing in space, after the ring finds a human.

There was nothing wrong with the special effects though. GL's powers were portrayed well, and the action sequence at the end was good. But it was too late in the movie to save at that point.

But I wouldn't say Marvel movies are better based on this, and DC shouldn't give up on other superheroes (besides Supes and Bats). They just need to make sure they get good direction, and have a good story not just a good concept.

Oh and not overspend on a first movie just assuming its gna be a hit. They've done that twice now: Superman Returns and Green Lantern. They dnt seem to be learning.

the ninjak
Originally posted by Kazenji
Hows life as a pirate

I'm a projectionist on the side.

Impediment
Zack Snyder's take on Superman will be the Man of Steel, who is faster than a speeding bullet, in slow motion.

Robtard
Saw it this weekend; that's another super-hero they ****ed up.

Hoping Captain America is better.

0mega Spawn
marvel hero movies will always be better. marvel characters always felt more realistic than DC characters for some reason.
so that seems like it would turn out better in live action.

am i making sense? no expression

dadudemon
I thought the movie was good. I gave it a 7 out of 10.

That means it was worth seeing in the theater.

How about Peter Sarsgaard's performance as Hector? That guy was just awesome. I believe I found a nice but different replacement for The Joker... smile

The effects were decent. The CGI wasn't bad, at all.

Sound was at times awesome and at other times lacking. This tells me that it had a rushed post-production with some good talent.

Acting was okay. Reynolds delivered but wasn't his usual awesome smartass self. He seemed rather suppressed in that area but still got several of his smartass lines in.

I liked the story.


Things I didn't like were the motivations for Hector. It was a bit too immature, imo. It didn't seem very realistic.

I really liked Parallax's character design. It was awesome!

Sinistro was a bit too much of an ass.



My hope is that they make a Green Lantern II and don't change much about the film except making the plot a bit better, adding more action...and taking out some of the PIS.




Also....is it me or are most Green (or otherwise) Lantern's lacking in imagination?

the ninjak
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
marvel hero movies will always be better. marvel characters always felt more realistic than DC characters for some reason.
so that seems like it would turn out better in live action.

am i making sense? no expression

I agree. Yeah I love the DC roster but they are too uber. And the fact that the film couldn't capture that.
The film should have shown him performing interesting feats. And not spearheading him into an ultimate showdown.
The Guardians also looked way too fake. Why not get Rick Baker to make animatronic dudes and put CG effects where they are needed.

They based all the scenes in sets with special effects which made the plot development seem too textbook. Thor brought in the small town setting which helped ground the audience in reality.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Also....is it me or are most Green (or otherwise) Lantern's lacking in imagination?

Yeah I guess that was the whole idea. That a creative and noble human could rise above the top. But the script couldn't capture that.

EDITING!!!

jaden101
Originally posted by Kazenji


at least DC tried to go with something different rather then Batman & Supes all the time.

I've no issue with them trying something that is lesser known in non comic book circles that Superman and Batman. I do have an issue with trying to palm us off with a movie with exceptionally low production values and terrible acting. The only character even remotely good was Sinestro. A genuine likeness and very well cast. The CGI on the Guardians was just laughable though. And when you compare Oa's CGI with the likes of Asgard in the Thor movie it just looks dire and outdated.

Robtard
Originally posted by dadudemon
Sinistro was a bit too much of an ass.


That was the only real redeeming aspect of the film(imo) and Mark Strong nailed it, Sinestro is an arrogant ass. All 15 minutes of him.

super pr*xy
i liked it.. it was a solid popcorn flick.. i'm with dadudemon.. i hope they bring sinestro to the spotlight in part 2..

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
marvel hero movies will always be better. marvel characters always felt more realistic than DC characters for some reason.
so that seems like it would turn out better in live action.

am i making sense? no expression

The Original Superman films and Nolan's Batman movies are the best superhero movies. Marvel never has and never will make movies of that caliber.

Originally posted by dadudemon


How about Peter Sarsgaard's performance as Hector? That guy was just awesome. I believe I found a nice but different replacement for The Joker... smile




I actually thought the Hector story was a waste of time, and it would have been a much better story just concentrating more on Parallax(one of the things that did work in the movie)

steverules_2
I didn't think it was bad....better than X-men last stand....

Kazenji
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The Original Superman films and Nolan's Batman movies are the best superhero movies. Marvel never has and never will make movies of that caliber.


But yet at the same time what we have gotten from Marvel Studio's is'nt all that bad.

steverules_2
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The Original Superman films and Nolan's Batman movies are the best superhero movies. Marvel never has and never will make movies of that caliber.


For me Thor, X2 and spiderman 2 > Superman films and Nolan's Batman

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by steverules_2
For me Thor, X2 and spiderman 2 > Superman films and Nolan's Batman

They were good.. Il agree with you there, as will most people. But not the best ever, they still got to Bats and Supes. Most people would agree with me on the Batman movies, and the older generation on the Superman. The Superman movies are just a little outdated now, thats all.

As for the best Marvel movies, Id give that to Iron Man and X-Men First Class personally.

Originally posted by steverules_2
I didn't think it was bad....better than X-men last stand....

Agreed. Unlike X3 ans S3, GL at least had the making of a good movie. It just needed better direction, and I personally think it got a bit off track with Hector Hammond.

Originally posted by Kazenji
But yet at the same time what we have gotten from Marvel Studio's is'nt all that bad.

Oh yeah definetely. Il agree Marvel has given us more quality movies in numbers.

Iron Man, Spiderman 2, X2, Thor, First Class, Blade..

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
That was the only real redeeming aspect of the film(imo) and Mark Strong nailed it, Sinestro is an arrogant ass. All 15 minutes of him.

I thought his a**holishness was out of place for what the top GL was supposed to be.

Originally posted by super pr*xy
i liked it.. it was a solid popcorn flick.. i'm with dadudemon.. i hope they bring sinestro to the spotlight in part 2..

Awesome. It could have definitely been better, for sure..but it wasn't as bad as people are making it out to be.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I actually thought the Hector story was a waste of time, and it would have been a much better story just concentrating more on Parallax(one of the things that did work in the movie)

Yeah, if I remember, I mentioned that did Hector's story a bit wrong flat. His acting was fun..but his plot/motivations were a bit lame.

super pr*xy
people are making it out to be the "gigli" of super hero movies.. it's not.. catwoman takes that cake.. GL is not that bad..

DARTH POWER
Its actually not done bad at all in the US. Unfortunately its earned close to nothing everywhere else, so will probably not make back its enormous production budget of $200 mill.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=greenlantern.htm

93 mill domestically. Compare that to First class which has made around 130 mil domestically but been out a few weeks longer. But thing is First Class has made more internationally than it has domestically, whilst GL has done a very poor 30 mill internationally.

Kazenji
It just came out in New Zealand i hear

and August for for Australia, Hope its worth the wait.

steverules_2
So far this year Marvel has come out with some great movies, first class and Thor are amazing movies IMO so I'm hoping captain America is also as good...it does look amazing

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by steverules_2
I'm hoping captain America is also as good...it does look amazing

So did Green Lantern.. You dnt know with these movies until we've seen the final result. To me Cap. A does not look like its going to be anything special personally.

Originally posted by Kazenji
It just came out in New Zealand i hear

and August for for Australia, Hope its worth the wait.

Dnt have high expectations.

steverules_2
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So did Green Lantern.. You dnt know with these movies until we've seen the final result. To me Cap. A does not look like its going to be anything special personally.


So because Green Lantern looked great but ended up not being so great...I should expect that Cap will suck as well....great

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by steverules_2
So because Green Lantern looked great but ended up not being so great...I should expect that Cap will suck as well....great

Calm Down. All I said is just because it "looks" great in the trailer doesn't mean it will be.

Kazenji
Can't be as bad the first movie they did.

Mindship
Saw GL today. The FX and Reynolds were fine but no lightning in a bottle here. Still, it was better than I expected, based on reviews.

super pr*xy
i think the critics watch these movies on their high horses.. they never bother to sit with the actual movie goers..

steverules_2
Originally posted by Kazenji
Can't be as bad the first movie they did.

Would that be the 90's one? That was horrifying

jaden101
How can some of you possibly accept that the visuals in this film were anything but way below par? Just compare Oa to Asgard from Thor. While the latter was crisp, clear and visually spectacular, Oa was just a grey and green blended blob of crap. I've seen movies that are 10 years old with better visuals.

enrike
Green Lantern is good movie.i have watch this movie online.

Patient_Leech
Was it silly, ridiculous, and too preachy? Yes, indeed. But somehow I still kind of liked it. I know nothing of the comic, but I thought it was indeed kind of a fun popcorn flick. I watched it in pretty low-def, though, so I can't speak for much of the CGI, but I think even in low-def I could tell that much of it was pretty bad. Surprising, considering the $200 million budget. Jesus. I'm honestly surprised a sequel is in the works, because it was received so badly, but it made some money, so there you go... I guess dollar signs decide the fate of the world once again..

Esau Cairn
I would have to say that Reynolds as Green Lantern is like Affleck was to Daredevil.

I didn't care much for both actors or the characters they played.
I really had no interest as to what happened to them in their movies.

Impediment
This movie was irredeemable shit.

Placidity
You know I can't remember one good scene from that movie, not even from a pure action perspective.

Maybe Sinestro's little speech from the trailer.

Nephthys
The guy with the giant head wasn't too bad.

Raynolds was a complete ******* though. That parody was right.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Nephthys
The guy with the giant head wasn't too bad.

Yeah, he was good.

I really don't understand why people hate this movie so much. I mean, it's the entire premise that is so dumb, but I didn't think it was poorly done at all (aside from some questionable CGI). Is it the character that everyone hates? Cuz that I can totally understand.. lol

-Pr-
The premise is actually pretty good; it just wasn't carried over as well as it could have been. It can be a bit "meta" though.

Patient_Leech
I mean, I'm not familiar with the comics at all... so what do you mean it wasn't carried over well?

-Pr-
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I mean, I'm not familiar with the comics at all... so what do you mean it wasn't carried over well?

Parallax in general wasn't really handled well in my opinion. I also felt that they could have just had Hector Hammond as the bad guy, but they tried to do too much at the same time.

Patient_Leech
What was Parallax?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I also felt that they could have just had Hector Hammond as the bad guy, but they tried to do too much at the same time.

I mean, he was really the only villain, right? Or you mean instead of having the big cosmic fear cloud thing, too? lol

Mr Parker
Originally posted by leezuki
i was going to watch green lantern but people keep trashing it, just want to know if it's really worth going to watch.

it was okay,nothing great but nothing terrible either IMO.

Patient_Leech
I guess I just don't usually go along with the critics. I thought Captain America sucked, which got pretty good reviews. But I actually liked this for what it was. I think the direction has a lot to do with it. Captain America had a shitty director. While Martin Campbell is the same guy who did Casino Royale, which was a masterpiece.

rudester
Originally posted by Kazenji
But yet at the same time what we have gotten from Marvel Studio's is'nt all that bad.

isnt that bad. Marvel studios stucks, first class was the only good movie Ive seen in a while that has come out of there.

S_D_J
Originally posted by rudester
isnt that bad. Marvel studios stucks, first class was the only good movie Ive seen in a while that has come out of there.

Fox did that one no expression, not Marvel

rudester
Originally posted by S_D_J
Fox did that one no expression, not Marvel

Are you correcting me boyh?.... just kidden I didn't know fox made movies?

Kazenji
no expression no expression no expression no expression no expression

S_D_J
Originally posted by rudester
Are you correcting me boyh?.... just kidden I didn't know fox made movies?

Of course Fox makes movies:

http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/Movies/F/Fantastic_Mr_Fox/posters/The%20Fantastic%20Mr.%20Fox%20movie%20poster.jpg

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/megan-fox-transformers-2.jpg

Many Foxs do!

Patient_Leech
I thought Marvel kind of partnered with a larger studio or something...? Marvel isn't its own studio entity, is it?

Originally posted by S_D_J

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/megan-fox-transformers-2.jpg

Mm.. thumbsup

Too bad it's from a Micheal Bay craptastrophe that I will never watch again. yucky

Esau Cairn
I don't really know who they tried to cater for the Green Lantern movie.

As far as superhero movies go, kids found it boring & adults thought it was ridiculous.

roughrider
Originally posted by rudester
isnt that bad. Marvel studios stucks, first class was the only good movie Ive seen in a while that has come out of there.

X-Men First Class wasn't released by Marvel Studios. It was Marvel under their old agreement with the studios as a co-producer. It was notable in my opinion as the first such film since Spider Man 2 in 2004 to be really great.

Marvel Studios is different, since they finance the films themselves and have all the creative control. They have done all that with the six films in the Avengers series, including Avengers this May. And all the films (Iron Man 1 & 2, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America) have been good to awesome.

Back to Green Lantern - it was a mess and misfire, and blame shouldn't be heaped on Ryan Reynolds. Blame the filmmakers for their bad conceptions of Parallax, the Lantern powers and a disjointed narrative.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I guess I just don't usually go along with the critics. I thought Captain America sucked, which got pretty good reviews. But I actually liked this for what it was. I think the direction has a lot to do with it. Captain America had a shitty director. While Martin Campbell is the same guy who did Casino Royale, which was a masterpiece.

Cept Green Lantern was'nt no masterpiece compared to Casino Royale and Goldeneye.

Patient_Leech
Well yeah, absolutely, Kazenj.. lol

ddd222
Green Lantern sucked.

Impediment
Idris Elba as John Stewart in a GL sequel?

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/idris-elba-loves-idea-playing-green-lantern-john-stewart

COG Veteran
Originally posted by ddd222
Green Lantern sucked.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Impediment
Idris Elba as John Stewart in a GL sequel?

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/idris-elba-loves-idea-playing-green-lantern-john-stewart

Do it Warner Bro's.

the ninjak
This film was an absolute waste. Shame.

Its failing? Not having fun with the source material.
DC make animated films that embrace the vibe of the DC Universe.
But its feature films try too hard to create dark and gritty representations of its characters. Which in the end push them into the emo corner.

DC films need to have fun with the medium.

Heck people judge Marvel Studios for doing the opposite. But at least I have a blast when I watch Marvel Studios films.

Kazenji
Originally posted by the ninjak
This film was an absolute waste. Shame.

Its failing? Not having fun with the source material.
DC make animated films that embrace the vibe of the DC Universe.
But its feature films try too hard to create dark and gritty representations of its characters. Which in the end push them into the emo corner.

DC films need to have fun with the medium.

Heck people judge Marvel Studios for doing the opposite. But at least I have a blast when I watch Marvel Studios films.

Spot on

not every single comic book adaptation needs to be dark & gritty, Just because Christopher Nolan had success with it for his Batman movies.

the ninjak
Originally posted by Kazenji
Spot on

not every single comic book adaptation needs to be dark & gritty, Just because Christopher Nolan had success with it for his Batman movies.

DC are riding off The Dark Knight's Joker's dick.

Simple as that.

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by Impediment
Idris Elba as John Stewart in a GL sequel?

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/idris-elba-loves-idea-playing-green-lantern-john-stewart


LOL

Heimdall as GL, and Sif as WW..

Well I sure wouldn't complain!

Patient_Leech
Hey, I'm one of the few who actually enjoys this movie, despite it's flaws. But holy shit, Idris Elba would be f#cking epic. (image tagging for better convenience...)

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/600_wide/wysiwyg_imageupload/1/idris-elba-green-lantern.jpg

Kazenji
Could also work for the planned Justice League movie, John was on the team with that Justice League cartoon.

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by Kazenji
Could also work for the planned Justice League movie, John was on the team with that Justice League cartoon.


Exactly. He'll be more recognizable than Hal Jordan due to the JL and JLU cartoons.

Firefly218
It would be awesome if DC could have created a cinematic universe similar to marvels.

BlackZero30x
Im pretty sure they are just planning on dropping GL entirely from the DC shared Universe because it was a huge flop.

the ninjak
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Im pretty sure they are just planning on dropping GL entirely from the DC shared Universe because it was a huge flop.

What a complete waste if that is a fact.

-Pr-
Eh, tbh it's not really. They need to erase those bad memories, and much like Marvel did with Hulk, they have an opportunity to do something good with the character now.

the ninjak
I don't need origin stories for characters when making a team film.
Comics back in the day used to just give us the goods then further down the track would give us an origin tale. It wasn't always the case but it was never necessary.
Just give us a JLA movie. And fill the blanks later.

Nephthys
They didn't need origin stories for the animated series and that was like the best version of the characters outside of the comics.

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by the ninjak
What a complete waste if that is a fact.

I could be wrong but im pretty sure the studio said its a possibility. After all it only made what 220 million? I think the CGI alone cost that much. I would love to have an amazing GL in a shared universe but right now im not to hopeful.

-Pr-
Originally posted by the ninjak
I don't need origin stories for characters when making a team film.
Comics back in the day used to just give us the goods then further down the track would give us an origin tale. It wasn't always the case but it was never necessary.
Just give us a JLA movie. And fill the blanks later.

Who says we'll have an origin in the JL movie? I'm genuinely asking, in case I missed something.

Now, the origin of the team is different, as you have to show how they come together.

the ninjak
Originally posted by -Pr-
Who says we'll have an origin in the JL movie? I'm genuinely asking, in case I missed something.

Now, the origin of the team is different, as you have to show how they come together.

I meant it in regards to finally having a JLA movie. We don't need origin stories/films for each character.

Just give us an exciting film with interesting characters and later down the track tell us their stories.

Of course the origin of the team needs to be told but not that of the the individual members.

DC is moving ahead with Superman/Batman without an origin for the new Batman. It's a smart path to take but we have already seen so many origins for the guy we don't need one so it isn't a risk.

Just do the same for everybody else. Start big, then break it down later.

Marvel made a big risk in supplying films for all characters before the Avengers and good for them.

If this was a poker game DC have a great hand to play but is too scared to play it. They have a pair of Aces, but potentially have a Full house.

-Pr-
Originally posted by the ninjak
I meant it in regards to finally having a JLA movie. We don't need origin stories/films for each character.

Just give us an exciting film with interesting characters and later down the track tell us their stories.

Of course the origin of the team needs to be told but not that of the the individual members.

DC is moving ahead with Superman/Batman without an origin for the new Batman. It's a smart path to take but we have already seen so many origins for the guy we don't need one so it isn't a risk.

Just do the same for everybody else. Start big, then break it down later.

Marvel made a big risk in supplying films for all characters before the Avengers and good for them.

If this was a poker game DC have a great hand to play but is too scared to play it. They have a pair of Aces, but potentially have a Full house.

I doubt we'd get one. Only the big three or four necessarily need one before the team movie. Solo movies after the fact can be used to show the origin (like Aquaman or Martian Manhunter for example).

The thing to remember is that this isn't DC. This is WB being difficult. Marvel selling it's licenses to third parties early on did more good than harm, and it put them in a better position. WB and DC are now playing catchup.

the ninjak
And one WB producer is a notorious weirdo. It doesn't even need to be a JLA movie just a DC Universe film.

But you mentioned Aquaman and MM. They don't need to be in it, just Have your Holy Trinity. Bats, Supes and WW with GL and Cyborg and creative banter and recognition that the world is growing around them would be enough. Hopefully this new Batman/Superman movie will introduce the fact many other beings and races exist.

Marvel dishing out characters to other distributors got them out there but ultimately (sadly) limited them on a huge scale.

-Pr-
Originally posted by the ninjak
And one WB producer is a notorious weirdo. It doesn't even need to be a JLA movie just a DC Universe film.

But you mentioned Aquaman and MM. They don't need to be in it, just Have your Holy Trinity. Bats, Supes and WW with GL and Cyborg and creative banter and recognition that the world is growing around them would be enough. Hopefully this new Batman/Superman movie will introduce the fact many other beings and races exist.

Marvel dishing out characters to other distributors got them out there but ultimately (sadly) limited them on a huge scale.

Aquaman and J'onn are founding members of the League.

They need to be in it, and especially more than Cyborg.

Nephthys
You need the original 7 imo. Bats, Supes, Wondie, GL, Aquaman, Flash and J'onn.

the ninjak
Originally posted by -Pr-
Aquaman and J'onn are founding members of the League.

They need to be in it, and especially more than Cyborg.

You mentioned they needed origin tales and I agree. The ones I mentioned can easily be written into a 2HR epic film.

Rules don't apply to film. They can be threats the team must face then become members later.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You need the original 7 imo. Bats, Supes, Wondie, GL, Aquaman, Flash and J'onn.

Not necessarily.

-Pr-
Originally posted by the ninjak
You mentioned they needed origin tales and I agree. The ones I mentioned can easily be written into a 2HR epic film.

Rules don't apply to film. They can be threats the team must face then become members later.


Not necessarily.

That would work too. They just need to be part of the Justice League or in the movie from the start. The league is more than the big 3-5.

Aquaman, for example, could be introduced in Justice League, then spinoff in to his own movie(s) later.

the ninjak
Of course, but then again that's the argument I introduced to begin with.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I don't need origin stories for characters when making a team film.
Comics back in the day used to just give us the goods then further down the track would give us an origin tale. It wasn't always the case but it was never necessary.
Just give us a JLA movie. And fill the blanks later.

-Pr-
I agree with that.

What I don't agree with is leaving Aquaman or J'onn (but mostly Aquaman) out of the movie/team.

Impediment
I'd love to see the New 52 JLA meeting origin.

BruceSkywalker
hmmm.. as long as Batman is kicking ass in a JLA film , I will be happy.. most likely anyway Batman, Kal and Diana will be the focal point of the film..

hmmm maybe I need to write it.. smile

DARTH POWER
I do think we need Wonder Woman on the big screen before a JL movie.

Firefly218
Originally posted by the ninjak
I meant it in regards to finally having a JLA movie. We don't need origin stories/films for each character.

Just give us an exciting film with interesting characters and later down the track tell us their stories.

Of course the origin of the team needs to be told but not that of the the individual members.

DC is moving ahead with Superman/Batman without an origin for the new Batman. It's a smart path to take but we have already seen so many origins for the guy we don't need one so it isn't a risk.

Just do the same for everybody else. Start big, then break it down later.

Marvel made a big risk in supplying films for all characters before the Avengers and good for them.

If this was a poker game DC have a great hand to play but is too scared to play it. They have a pair of Aces, but potentially have a Full house.

I completely agree

Impediment
Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Martian Manhunter, The Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Cyborg all need to appear for a proper JLA movie.

Wonder Woman is very deserving of her own film, IMO.

Nephthys
8 is a bit much for a team imo. Especially without all the prequel movies the Marvel movies had. Cyborg is the odd one out imo. If you really need a black technologically skilled hero then either drop Aquaman or Martian Manhunter for him (or both).

Personally I think the original 7 is the perfect team.

Impediment
Arnold Vosloo would make an awesome Martian Manhunter.

BlackZero30x
As long as The Flash is in it. Though, we will be seeing Quicksilver in the next Avengers. I wonder how many people are gonna say DC is ripping off Marvel more then they already do lol.

Impediment
Ryan Reynolds was just a lousy choice as Hal Jordan. If he HAD to be a Green lantern, he should have been Guy Gardner or, at the very least, Kyle Rayner.

I'll go one further and say that Ryan Reynolds would be perfect as Barry Allen's Flash.

janus77
Originally posted by Impediment
Arnold Vosloo would make an awesome Martian Manhunter.
He'd make a far better Black Adam. Dunno how he looks nowadays, but Mummy-era ... Very much how I imagine BA would look in a live action film.

Impediment
See, I think that Oded Fehr would make an awesome Black Adam.

Vosloo just has that face and skull shape that screams MM.

janus77
Oded Fehr hmm... I can't actually think of any comic-book character that would suit him. At a stretch, maybe Hercules ... If Hercules was really puny.

Though I've always imagined Hercules as Oliver Reed without the sobriety or six-pack.

janus77
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101016210613/charmed/images/f/fd/Arnoldvosloo.jpg He's just about ready to wage war, right?

Tzeentch._
Originally posted by -Pr-
Aquaman and J'onn are founding members of the League.


So was Ant-Man.

BruceSkywalker
so.. does anyone want me to write the script.. I am an aspiring screenwriter


Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I do think we need Wonder Woman on the big screen before a JL movie.


agreed


Originally posted by Impediment
Ryan Reynolds was just a lousy choice as Hal Jordan. If he HAD to be a Green lantern, he should have been Guy Gardner or, at the very least, Kyle Rayner.

I'll go one further and say that Ryan Reynolds would be perfect as Barry Allen's Flash.

agreed with some, however reynolds should never again play a comic book character unless its the Riddler.. jk...jk...jk...

-Pr-
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
So was Ant-Man.

And what Marvel is doing to Henry Pym is a ****ing disgrace.

Kazenji
I don't care who makes Ultron since its suppose to be the movie universe, As long as Ultron is true to his character being a robot that causes trouble that wants to annihilate humanity.

-Pr-
Part of being true to his character is that he was created by Pym, and the ramifications of that.

That said, I wasn't even speaking about Ultron as much as I was the fact that one of the founding members of the team has just somehow been neglected in all of this, and all because of (most likely) some inflated, misguided opinion that he's some sort of wife beater.

ares834
Nah, your average person isn't going to know who Pym is, let alone know he hit his wife.

They probably cut him because his powers are pretty lame. People give aquaman shit now imageine how much shit they would give a guy who becomes tiny and talks to bugs.

-Pr-
Originally posted by ares834
Nah, your average person isn't going to know who Pym is, let alone know he hit his wife.

They probably cut him because his powers are pretty lame. People give aquaman shit now imageine how much shit they would give a guy who becomes tiny and talks to bugs.

The execs at Marvel do, though, and it really wouldn't surprise me.

His powers aren't really that lame. Plus, if they were that worried, they could always add his growing ability too.

Aquaman's powers aren't lame. People's perception of them is, as well as being misinformed. It's the same with Pym, imo.

ares834
Not saying Aquaman has lame powers. But, considering how he still is under that stigma among the GA, I don't see how Pym would fare any better.

Kazenji
Yeah with Aquaman, He has this lame image with people he talks to fish and he's only useful in the ocean....which is a load of bullshit.

-Pr-
Originally posted by ares834
Not saying Aquaman has lame powers. But, considering how he still is under that stigma among the GA, I don't see how Pym would fare any better.

Because the companies that promote them have the power to change how they're perceived.

Most people don't know jack shit about Pym. Marvel could easily make "movie Pym" any way they liked, in a way they liked, and people would gravitate to it, imo.

Aquaman's stigma with comic readers was bad too, but DC pushed to change it, and for the most part it worked. Doing it in a movie wouldn't be that difficult either, I believe.

Lestov16
Originally posted by ares834
Not saying Aquaman has lame powers. But, considering how he still is under that stigma among the GA, I don't see how Pym would fare any better.

Well as others have said, the main problem with Aquaman is GA prejudice. They still remember him from the Super-Friends days and aren't familiar with his current powerset and badassery. If they did a film, I'm sure people would enjoy it.

With Pym though, the mad scientist aspect is alright, but do people still like "growing/shrinking" stories anymore? That stuff was popular in the 50's and with the Honey I Shrunk The Series, but I don't see the contemporary GA, who enjoy explosions, fistfights, and elaborate eye-popping CGI setpieces clamoring for a "growing/shrinking" story. It's an obsolete concept IMO.

Kazenji
I've got faith in the person who's directing the Ant-Man, Which is Edger Wright and if the test footage is anything to go by its going to be awesome.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Lestov16
Well as others have said, the main problem with Aquaman is GA prejudice. They still remember him from the Super-Friends days and aren't familiar with his current powerset and badassery. If they did a film, I'm sure people would enjoy it.

With Pym though, the mad scientist aspect is alright, but do people still like "growing/shrinking" stories anymore? That stuff was popular in the 50's and with the Honey I Shrunk The Series, but I don't see the contemporary GA, who enjoy explosions, fistfights, and elaborate eye-popping CGI setpieces clamoring for a "growing/shrinking" story. It's an obsolete concept IMO.

kind of sad that Aquaman has been badass since the early 90s too.

Pacific Rim, but with robots.

Supra
I happen to have liked this movie

Lestov16
I find that because I don't read comics, I enjoy superhero films a lot better than fans do. I enjoyed the hell out of both Fantastic Four movies, and while DD and Elektra weren't the best, they were still entertaining. Now Halle Berry's Catwoman, that's terrible no mater how you look at it...

the ninjak
Originally posted by -Pr-
Because the companies that promote them have the power to change how they're perceived.

Most people don't know jack shit about Pym. Marvel could easily make "movie Pym" any way they liked, in a way they liked, and people would gravitate to it, imo.

Aquaman's stigma with comic readers was bad too, but DC pushed to change it, and for the most part it worked. Doing it in a movie wouldn't be that difficult either, I believe.

I agree that Pym's negative popularity is similar to Aquamans. And both characters are far more deserving of their received perception by the public.

Which is why I originally pushed my idea of a JLA movie with Aquaman possibly being a villain without a heroic origin movie. but eventually becoming a team member.

Pym is in my Top 5 Marvel characters, he deserves so much more than what he's received. Same as Aquaman.

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by Lestov16
I find that because I don't read comics, I enjoy superhero films a lot better than fans do. I enjoyed the hell out of both Fantastic Four movies, and while DD and Elektra weren't the best, they were still entertaining. Now Halle Berry's Catwoman, that's terrible no mater how you look at it...

Haha... well put. I'm kind of the same way (I haven't read very many comics). I actually enjoyed Green Lantern. Think I've watched it twice actually. And I'll probably watch it again. Not because it's a masterpiece, but because it's entertaining. Martin Campbell is an entertaining director.

BruceSkywalker
so,, since this about hank pym now.. stick out tongue

paul rudd is apparently the frontrunner

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=90518

-Pr-
Originally posted by the ninjak
I agree that Pym's negative popularity is similar to Aquamans. And both characters are far more deserving of their received perception by the public.

Which is why I originally pushed my idea of a JLA movie with Aquaman possibly being a villain without a heroic origin movie. but eventually becoming a team member.

Pym is in my Top 5 Marvel characters, he deserves so much more than what he's received. Same as Aquaman.

i'd be fine with that. it actually fits in to the mythology.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so,, since this about hank pym now.. stick out tongue

paul rudd is apparently the frontrunner

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=90518

I can see it.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by -Pr-
i'd be fine with that. it actually fits in to the mythology.



I can see it.

im not much a rudd fan but yeah i agree

DARTH POWER
I can definitely see Rudd as Hank Pym.

Supra
We Are Going To Fly Now

Best Scene in the Movie..made it all worth it as they did it right..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql_VifCJG7I

TheOneFirestorm
Can't deny the scene of Hal seeing his dad die should have been shown at the start.

Also the whole finding it hard to root for Hal is damn stupid. John Wayne's character in the searchers a jerk hard to root for, Hal admits his flaws while I don't recall Tony stark in iron man movies saying something,like that but no one ragged or dogged him for being a smartass so there for this makes him hard to root for.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Lestov16

With Pym though, the mad scientist aspect is alright, but do people still like "growing/shrinking" stories anymore? That stuff was popular in the 50's and with the Honey I Shrunk The Series, but I don't see the contemporary GA, who enjoy explosions, fistfights, and elaborate eye-popping CGI setpieces clamoring for a "growing/shrinking" story. It's an obsolete concept IMO.

Except with Ant-Man its different to those movies mentioned

with those movies the characters end up stuck that way, With Ant-Man he has the ability to change at will.

COG Veteran
Originally posted by TheOneFirestorm
Can't deny the scene of Hal seeing his dad die should have been shown at the start.

Also the whole finding it hard to root for Hal is damn stupid. John Wayne's character in the searchers a jerk hard to root for, Hal admits his flaws while I don't recall Tony stark in iron man movies saying something,like that but no one ragged or dogged him for being a smartass so there for this makes him hard to root for.

Can't root for a guy who's been a trainwreck of a superhero character in two trainwreck superhero movies. laughing

Kazenji
And they want Ryan Reynolds to play Deadpool.

Lestov16
Originally posted by COG Veteran
Can't root for a guy who's been a trainwreck of a superhero character in two trainwreck superhero movies. laughing

Hal, Wade, and Hannibal King make 3 actually big grin

Lestov16
Just watched this on tv. It was a fun simple superhero film. Don't know why it got so much hate. Hal wasn't a genius, but he was effective. I would give it a solid 3 out of four stars.

Patient_Leech
Yeah, this movie is a guilty pleasure for me. I like it.

I understand why it gets some hate, but I still think it's entertaining.

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