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Surtur, amped with the Super Soldier Serum, vs Thanos, Lord Mar-vell, and Blood and Thunder Thor (no power gem)...

Straight melee combat; no flying, tech, or exotic power usage...

Fight to the Death or KO...no BFR...who wins?

Would the SErum actually affect him??

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Would the SErum actually affect him??

No way to know; for the purposes of the thread lets assume it works and does for him what it did for Captain America...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No way to know; for the purposes of the thread lets assume it works and does for him what it did for Captain America...

Turn him into a peak human? :-p

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Turn him into a peak human? :-p

Doh!!!!



I was thinking terms of giving his body the same level of amp that it gave to Captain America's body...

Wtf? I dont think this works at all

Originally posted by iceman24567
Wtf? I dont think this works at all

For the purposes of this thread, just assume it does....who wins?

The Super Soldier Serum was described as being a genius' perfect realization of human potential and created an ultimate amplifier for current man's attributes.

It wouldn't effect Surtur in the slightest. Surtur is an ancient alien being.

Originally posted by the ninjak
The Super Soldier Serum was described as being a genius' perfect realization of human potential and created an ultimate amplifier for current man's attributes.

It wouldn't effect Surtur in the slightest. Surtur is an ancient alien being.

Well, one of Surturs demons brought him a bottle of it as a gift...

Surtur drunk it and felt himself getting much bigger, stronger, and faster...

So with that said, who wins here?

Wow! Well unless we have feats any opinion is sheer guess work.
Did Surtur sooner or later burn the serum out?

Originally posted by the ninjak
Wow! Well unless we have feats any opinion is sheer guess work.
Did Surtur sooner or later burn the serum out?

Most of what we do here is guess work...

For the purposes of this thread, the Serum works for 24 hours then burns out...

Who wins?

Well Surtur is already a physical beast! Amp him by making him stronger and bigger can only do so much when fighting these guys.

Thanos- Insane physical/mental durability + can't die. Powerful blast attacks. And shields.

Marvell- Fast speed in flight and attack ability. Massive wideburst blast attacks. All make him a hard target.

And I don't know jack about Blood and Thunder Thor.

Read the OP...

Thanos solos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos solos.

How does he solo?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
How does he solo? Avatar of death and unkillable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Avatar of death and unkillable.

No flight, tech, or exotic powers in this fight...

Plus Thanos can be KO'ed...

So how does Thanos solo again?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No flight, tech, or exotic powers in this fight...

Plus Thanos can be KO'ed... He doesn't need exotic powers but you can't take away his unkillability. You need a cc level power to ko him and Surtur is nowhere near that.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Read the OP...

Oh O.K.

Thanos kills him with Death ability granted to him by Death herself.
A physical punchup will end up here sooner or later. And Thanos has insane durability and now has a form that constantly remains in it's present healthy state.
You have to nuke him with a Negabomb?? to blast him hard enough before he returns to healthy form.
Surtur aint beating him up.

A Cube Being KO'ed Thanos with a mere, lone, eyebeam (from a single eye at that)....

An amped, High-End, Skyfather should be able to match the force of that attack...

Surtur can definitely KO Thanos...

Thanos got amped in Thanos Imperative.

A direct cube attack only put a still evolving Thanos down temporarily.
The characters (mainly RR) stated how he was still growing during the event.

By the end they needed a cosmic cube and 2 heroes to keep him back from getting back into 616 universe.

Thanos is uber now.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Oh O.K.

Thanos kills him with Death ability granted to him by Death herself.
A physical punchup will end up here sooner or later. And Thanos has insane durability and now has a form that constantly remains in it's present healthy state.
You have to nuke him with a Negabomb?? to blast him hard enough before he returns to healthy form.
Surtur aint beating him up.

No exotic power usage; The power gained as Deaths Avatar mean nothing here...

Also, we have an amped High End Skyfather wailing away on Thanos; Surtur should definitely be able to KO Thanos...

Originally posted by the ninjak
Thanos got amped in Thanos Imperative.

A direct cube attack only put a still evolving Thanos down temporarily.
The characters (mainly RR) stated how he was still growing during the event.

By the end they needed a cosmic cube and 2 heroes to keep him back from getting back into 616 universe.

Thanos is uber now.

Well Surtur was already uber, and with this amp, is now superuber!

Well Surtur is fighting all three at the same time.

Mavell laughed while Nova Prime and Surfer attempted to damage him at high speeds and maneuverability. They were hitting him from all side instantaneously and he just adapted and laughed.

Marvell + Thanos + B&T Thor. They beat Surtur eventually.

Wait...how much does the Serum amp him by?

Honestly, Surtur may be able to take this team without an amp. Surtur when fighting Odin, has always put Odin on the defensive, and appeared to to be his physical superior in a few ways. I don't see this team taking Odin to be honest.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
A Cube Being KO'ed Thanos with a mere, lone, eyebeam (from a single eye at that)....

An amped, High-End, Skyfather should be able to match the force of that attack...

Surtur can definitely KO Thanos... The cube would own Surtur all the same. Surtur has been easily defeated by Odin in the past and Odin has never defeated pre imperative Thanos.

Thanos wins this by himself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The cube would own Surtur all the same. Surtur has been easily defeated by Odin in the past and Odin has never defeated pre imperative Thanos.

Thanos wins this by himself.

But this is Surtur amped by the Super Soldier Serum!

He would be far more imposing physically than any incarnation of Surtur that Odins ever faced...

And as a minor nitpick, Odin has never easily defeated Surtur in a pure physical contest to begin with...

Anyway, Thanos vs this version of Surtur is spite against Thanos one on one; he needs the rest of the team to have any chance whatsoever...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
But this is Surtur amped by the Super Soldier Serum!

He would be far more imposing physically than any incarnation of Surtur that Odins ever faced...

And as a minor nitpick, Odin has never easily defeated Surtur in a pure physical contest to begin with...

Anyway, Thanos vs this version of Surtur is spite against Thanos one on one; he needs the rest of the team to have any chance whatsoever... It isn't enough to defeat the avatar of death.

It's all theoretical but isn't enough to get the nod over Thanos here.

Odin also didn't just physically oppose Thanos either but with his powers he's easily defeated Surtur in the past.

I see it differently but you always make threads in which you go crazy when someone disagrees with you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't enough to defeat the avatar of death.

It's all theoretical but isn't enough to get the nod over Thanos here.

Odin also didn't just physically oppose Thanos either but with his powers he's easily defeated Surtur in the past.

I see it differently but you always make threads in which you go crazy when someone disagrees with you.

I am just pointing out that this is a pure physical melee battle, so Odins showings (which are always more than just pure melee) against Surtur dont apply...especially since this version of Surtur has a physical amp.

Thanos has been KO'ed in the past; this version of Surtur should be capable of replicating that feat...

Once again, Thanos absolutely needs help to have a chance of beating Surtur here...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I am just pointing out that this is a pure physical melee battle, so Odins showings (which are always more than just pure melee) against Surtur dont apply...especially since this version of Surtur has a physical amp.

Thanos has been KO'ed in the past; this version of Surtur should be capable of replicating that feat...

Once again, Thanos absolutely needs help to have a chance of beating Surtur here... Ok, but Thanos physically manhandled Mar-vell while weakened and is the avatar of death so thus he can exterminate Surtur any time he wants.

Thanos has been ko'd by beings far more powerful than Surtur so Thanos wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, but Thanos physically manhandled Mar-vell while weakened and is the avatar of death so thus he can exterminate Surtur any time he wants.

Thanos has been ko'd by beings far more powerful than Surtur so Thanos wins.

I think you have short term memory problems, so let me remind you: no exotic power usage, so being "The Avatar of Death" means nothing here...this just straight hand to hand combat.

As a result, Thanos aint "exterminating" or even KO'ing Surtur one on one...

One on one, this is spite against Thanos; Thanos needs the rest of the team to have a chance...

Pre-Imperative Thanos has never defeated Odin, and Surtur has.

So yeah, Amped Surtur sh_t stomps Thanos.