Quicksilver vs Karate kid

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rotiart
Can quicksilvers speed save him from the kid

Uriel005
not a chance in hell for quick

Mindset
QS 10/10

JakeTheBank
^ Seems reasonable.

Good fight.

KingD19
Has KK ever fought anyone in QS league who primarily used their speed against him? I know he's fought Kryptonians and such, but have they blitzed him like QS will absolutely do?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by KingD19
Has KK ever fought anyone in QS league who primarily used their speed against him? I know he's fought Kryptonians and such, but have they blitzed him like QS will absolutely do?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/102246/1894695-kk3_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36536/1706463-karate2_super.jpg

KingD19
RRRUUUUUUUU Ah?

Nice scans, and while it shows he can react to speed, we don't know precisely how fast that was, but they were still visible.

QS has hit Magneto at Mach 5 I think, and gone fast enough to cross half the world in a minute and a half. Also went to another continent and back in a split second.

Not saying KK can't react to those speeds, but QS speed feats have actual numbers, not just visual. But I have no info on KK, just asking.

abhilegend
Originally posted by KingD19
Has KK ever fought anyone in QS league who primarily used their speed against him? I know he's fought Kryptonians and such, but have they blitzed him like QS will absolutely do?
Like this?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSH111-14.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSH111-18.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSH111-19.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by KingD19
RRRUUUUUUUU Ah?

Nice scans, and while it shows he can react to speed, we don't know precisely how fast that was, but they were still visible.

QS has hit Magneto at Mach 5 I think, and gone fast enough to cross half the world in a minute and a half. Also went to another continent and back in a split second.

Not saying KK can't react to those speeds, but QS speed feats have actual numbers, not just visual. But I have no info on KK, just asking.
Mon-el was going fast enough that val threw him in another solar system.

DarkSaint85
Basically, he redirected him and used his momentum against him. To BFR him out of the solar system or some crap like that - which shows how fast he was. Kinda like an extreme judo move lol.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36536/1706464-karate3_super.jpg


These are some others, not as impressive, however, but just to show it won't be a KK stomp.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Untitled-Scanned-11.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Untitled-Scanned-12.jpg

KingD19
Nice. Isn't that last scan in QS's favor though? As he does nothing but move in Superspeed and won't slow down at all.

Golgo13
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/da.jpg

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/da2.jpg

cdtm
Originally posted by KingD19
Has KK ever fought anyone in QS league who primarily used their speed against him? I know he's fought Kryptonians and such, but have they blitzed him like QS will absolutely do?

Tornado Twins, who had Flashes super speed. He was outclassed in overall speed, but still managed to get in a few hits, and grab one of them by the shirt, which is consistent enough with Val's history to not be considered PIS. (The Twin he caught not simply phasing out of his grip, I attribute to lack of experience.)

He also spun Pre Crisis Superboy around like a top so fast, it knocked him out from vertigo.

cdtm
Originally posted by KingD19
Nice. Isn't that last scan in QS's favor though? As he does nothing but move in Superspeed and won't slow down at all.

More like a point against QS, considering it was by changing speed modes suddenly that Ultra Boy faked him out, and caught him when he thought he could measure his strikes.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by KingD19
Nice. Isn't that last scan in QS's favor though? As he does nothing but move in Superspeed and won't slow down at all.

A bit of both, as I just wanted to show that whilst KK wins, he won't stomp.

If KK gets cocky, and QS goes 'now watch as I use my Lightning kick', then headbutts him instead or something silly, then yes, it is conceivable that QS could knock him out.

On the other hand, when superspeed is explicitly used against him, he seems to do OK.

Mindset
None of those people knew how to use their speed to fight as well as QS.Originally posted by Mindset
QS 10/10

Deal with it.

Golgo13
Originally posted by cdtm
Tornado Twins, who had Flashes super speed. He was outclassed in overall speed, but still managed to get in a few hits, and grab one of them by the shirt, which is consistent enough with Val's history to not be considered PIS. (The Twin he caught not simply phasing out of his grip, I attribute to lack of experience.)

He also spun Pre Crisis Superboy around like a top so fast, it knocked him out from vertigo.

He also dodged Validus's lightning, while Mon-El couldn't. thumb up

cdtm
Originally posted by Golgo13
He also dodged Validus's lightning, while Mon-El couldn't. thumb up

Even Chain Lightning Val (Modeled after Levitz Val, but I'd prefer to think it's not the same guy) dodged Wally West in speed force lightning form, while trying to draw him with a lightning rod. Still not fast enough to avoid Batmans fist of justice, of course. laughing

Digi
KK doesn't make rational sense. But it's so repeated, to the point of pretty much ONLY being portrayed as that uber, that it has to be treated as fact. With QS being a one-trick pony, and definitely able to be knocked out by someone of KK's caliber, I'd give Val a solid majority.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by Digi
KK doesn't make rational sense. But it's so repeated, to the point of pretty much ONLY being portrayed as that uber, that it has to be treated as fact. With QS being a one-trick pony, and definitely able to be knocked out by someone of KK's caliber, I'd give Val a solid majority.

thumb up

QS is fast but not nearly strong enough. KK will adapt and deal with his enemies Power more easily then with Ultraboys, who isn't just "fast".

cdtm
Originally posted by Digi
KK doesn't make rational sense. But it's so repeated, to the point of pretty much ONLY being portrayed as that uber, that it has to be treated as fact. With QS being a one-trick pony, and definitely able to be knocked out by someone of KK's caliber, I'd give Val a solid majority.

They could have explained it as chi amping, or some kind of alien enhancing techniques or something, but I'm glad they never did.

Not enough writers get that less is more, and over-explaining is as likely to break something as evolve it..

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