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The Richards have been kidnapped by some all powerful cosmic entity or another that wants to toy with Mr Fantastic's life.
If Richards wants to see his family again, he is to subdue the entire superhuman population of DC Earth within 24 months. People he brings under control (by any means) to assist him count as subdued provided rebellion is impossible.

CIS is very much on, so we can conclude Reed will not kill under any circumstances.

He gets an underground lab identical to his own, with all relevant equipment, in some deserted location.

DC Earth is completely unaware of his existence, at least, at first.

Can he do it?

Sure he can if he has enough prep

Reed calls Dr. Doom.

24 months

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Reed calls Dr. Doom.

24 months? Lol, in that amount of time it's no longer about take over Earth but the entire DCU.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Reed calls Dr. Doom. for the sake of the thread let's assume richards wants to actually accomplish something here, instead of getting within arm's reach and ****ing up

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
24 months? Lol, in that amount of time it's no longer about take over Earth but the entire DCU. obvisouly, he'll be found out sooner or later and they'll start hunting for him.

Originally posted by 753
for the sake of the thread let's assume richards wants to actually accomplish something here, instead of getting within arm's reach and ****ing up

Fair enough.

Though, really, if you think about it Doom's assistance in this matter would benefit Reed. Sure, he'd have to grovel to Doom for a bit, but Doom's pride and honor would ensure that he helps Reed accomplish his goal just so he can gloat "I helped you save your own family when you couldn't by yourself." That is, assuming you implied that Reed would mess up due to Doom backstabbing and not implying Doom would fail, because that's nonsense.

Assuming you want Reed by himself with no help from his universe, he could do this on his own, especially if your "no rebellion" clause means that if mind controls or otherwise gets someone to work for him, they're on his side for the rest of the scenario.

Reed with that amount of prep will be able to take DC no problem. I'd imagine he would take out all high level threats first so what those that really leave for resistance?

Originally posted by 753
for the sake of the thread let's assume richards wants to actually accomplish something here, instead of getting within arm's reach and ****ing up
Daaaaamn man, cold blooded.

Reed definitely succeeds; Reed dails up the rest of the Council and they own the living hell out of DC Earth...

Originally posted by 753
for the sake of the thread let's assume richards wants to actually accomplish something here, instead of getting within arm's reach and ****ing up



That was the best shot at Doom i've seen in a while!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


Assuming you want Reed by himself with no help from his universe, he could do this on his own, especially if your "no rebellion" clause means that if mind controls or otherwise gets someone to work for him, they're on his side for the rest of the scenario. yes, by himself. no one is coming over from marvel. mindcontrol and the likes count as subduing someone.

It's not like DC Earth has a bunch of ****ed individuals residing on it? No sir they don't.

Without PIS helping Reeds, he's not winning.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Fair enough.

Though, really, if you think about it Doom's assistance in this matter would benefit Reed. Sure, he'd have to grovel to Doom for a bit, but Doom's pride and honor would ensure that he helps Reed accomplish his goal just so he can gloat "I helped you save your own family when you couldn't by yourself." That is, assuming you implied that Reed would mess up due to Doom backstabbing and not implying Doom would fail, because that's nonsense.

Assuming you want Reed by himself with no help from his universe, he could do this on his own, especially if your "no rebellion" clause means that if mind controls or otherwise gets someone to work for him, they're on his side for the rest of the scenario.
753 dangled the bait and you took it. Hahaha...

How is he going to take over DC if He cannot even control his wife, hell he has not even realized that He is a cuckold.

And He has been married forever and have not find a way to satisfy his woman.

How is he going to do this???

No.

Sorry, but there's WAY too much Reed wank around here.

He can't control his wife, her brother, and his best friend half the time. How's he gonna take over the world?

Can't do much with Doom either.

Reed = not a big deal.

Not sure how Reed not "subduing" his family means he can't do anything of note in this scenario...? He's an ass, but he's not trying to imprison or mind control his wife, brother-in-law, and best friend. There's also the fact that, per this scenario, his family has been taken from him, which makes him willing to cross lines and consider options that aren't normally on the table for him. Just remember all the morally dubious stuff Reed committed to or was a part of during the Civil War. And for the most part, his family wasn't directly in danger.

Guy has two years to work with and no one knows who the hell he is or what he's capable of initially. OP also stated that once he's subdued/controlled someone, they can't rebel against him. Even if he doesn't succeed, you're deluding yourself if you don't think Richards does a lot of damage to DC Earth's structure.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
How is he going to take over DC if He cannot even control his wife, hell he has not even realized that He is a cuckold.

And He has been married forever and have not find a way to satisfy his woman.

How is he going to do this???

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not sure how Reed not "subduing" his family means he can't do anything of note in this scenario...? He's an ass, but he's not trying to imprison or mind control his wife, brother-in-law, and best friend. There's also the fact that, per this scenario, his family has been taken from him, which makes him willing to cross lines and consider options that aren't normally on the table for him. Just remember all the morally dubious stuff Reed committed to or was a part of during the Civil War. And for the most part, his family wasn't directly in danger.

Guy has two years to work with and no one knows who the hell he is or what he's capable of initially. OP also stated that once he's subdued/controlled someone, they can't rebel against him. Even if he doesn't succeed, you're deluding yourself if you don't think Richards does a lot of damage to DC Earth's structure.

Do you know who occupies DC Earth?

To name a few
Doctor Fate
Captain Marvel, non jobbing
Aquaman
Spectre
Swamp Thing
Captain Atom
Phantom Stranger
Etrigan
Flash Family
Raven
Nekron
Deadman
Amazo
Hourman

These guys without any jobbing from there would break Reed down in most fights.

Originally posted by SquallX
Do you know who occupies DC Earth?

To name a few
Doctor Fate
Captain Marvel, non jobbing
Aquaman
Spectre
Swamp Thing
Captain Atom
Phantom Stranger
Etrigan
Flash Family
Raven
Nekron
Deadman
Amazo
Hourman

These guys without any jobbing from there would break Reed down in most fights.

Considering I've read just as much DC as I have Marvel over the years, yes, I'd like to know I'm aware of who exists in DC.

Also worth noting Reed's not going to be "fighting" these people, but rather just trying to subdue them. And if you don't think someone like Reed, with his tech and prep feats and his scientific intelligence being well above and away pretty much anyone on DC Earth, you're short selling the hell out of him if you don't think a prepped Reed can't wreck shit on DC Earth. And this isn't even saying he wins, but rather acknowledging his capabilities.

Unless you want to dismiss everything he's done as "PIS" or "the other guys jobbing".

Is this one sided prep? I can see reed winning, but not with equal prep.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering I've read just as much DC as I have Marvel over the years, yes, I'd like to know I'm aware of who exists in DC.

Also worth noting Reed's not going to be "fighting" these people, but rather just trying to subdue them. And if you don't think someone like Reed, with his tech and prep feats and his scientific intelligence being well above and away pretty much anyone on DC Earth, you're short selling the hell out of him if you don't think a prepped Reed can't wreck shit on DC Earth. And this isn't even saying he wins, but rather acknowledging his capabilities.

Unless you want to dismiss everything he's done as "PIS" or "the other guys jobbing".

99.9% of Reeds feats are PIS, and jobbing on his opponents sides.

When was the last time Reed won a fight without having his opponents jobbing to him?

Originally posted by SquallX
99.9% of Reeds feats are PIS, and jobbing on his opponents sides.

When was the last time Reed won a fight without having his opponents jobbing to him?



Reed's a genius character, arguably the smartest person on Marvel Earth and definitely one of the smartest characters in fiction. You can't just throw out all by 0.1% of his feats because you don't like them.

Moot point as this isn't a versus fight thread.

This is one sided prep.

And while I was joking with my original post.

I believe the task cannot be done even with the stipulations favoring Reed.

The reason why, is because even though Reed is basically a walking plot device, he has also being portrayed uncapable of predicting every single scenario and the amount of variables going on, on taking an earth full of super powered humans can cause Reed to have a misscalculation and IIRC, He has had those in the past.

Too mana variables going on for him. Imo

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
This is one sided prep.

And while I was joking with my original post.

I believe the task cannot be done even with the stipulations favoring Reed.

The reason why, is because even though Reed is basically a walking plot device, he has also being portrayed uncapable of predicting every single scenario and the amount of variables going on, on taking an earth full of super powered humans can cause Reed to have a misscalculation and IIRC, He has had those in the past.

Too mana variables going on for him. Imo

Civil War actually proved that Reed can and has predicted large amount of variables and multiple scenarios. He even developed a special breed of science for that specific purposes.

I don't think he's perfect by any means, but based on on-panel evidence, Reed can certainly predict behavior on a large scale with multiple variables and possible scenarios.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Civil War actually proved that Reed can and has predicted large amount of variables and multiple scenarios. He even developed a special breed of science for that specific purposes.

I don't think he's perfect by any means, but based on on-panel evidence, Reed can certainly predict behavior on a large scale with multiple variables and possible scenarios.

As a matter of fact I was thinking about civil war to point out this variables that can affect him.

You can see how even though He is such a capable person, he cannot foresee every aspect. This was evident when "Thor" killed Goliath and when He is talking with Jennifer during Daredevil's capture.

The only way Reed could achieve this is if the DC heroes were completely oblivious to what he is doing until he's completed it. this wont be the case. there are several major players who will be aware once he has control of some high level entities. not to mention that the only way to control some will be acquiring. certain talismans like the Ring of Life. He wont acquire that without either Spectre, Fate or Phantom Stranger ( maybe a few others) being aware and without it he can't control them.

He's done before noon Day 1 just in time for lunch...

Reed might be able to do it, but it isn't going to be easy with the rampant paranoia that exists in parts of DC.

He could fail easily if he doesn't play his cards right.