Tanking contest

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Prof. T.C McAbe
Who of the following Heralds or above could replicate the following feat.

Pandora has the energies of 133 Herc, a Herc is the equivalent of the mystical energy Hercules can muster in on blow.

Here is the feat:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHFlexing03627.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHFlexing04629.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHFlexing05.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHFlexing06.jpg

1. Silver Surfer tries to absorb the power.
2. Pre- DCnU Superman tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
3. Pre-DCnU Captain Marvel tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
4. Hyperion Now, tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
5. Thor tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
6. Thanos tries to inhale or absorb it, whatever suits you better.
7. Firestorm tries to absorb the power.
8. Green Lantern (Hal), tries to absorb it with his ring and contain it with willpower.

carver9
Correction to his post. Pandora is equal to 133 Hercs. One herc is equal to the MAXIMUM power output Hercules can deliver in one hit. Basically his maximum potential. No one here is tanking that (or one Herc) since Herc is a legit High Herald strength wise.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Correction to his post. Pandora is equal to 133 Hercs. One herc is equal to the MAXIMUM power output Hercules can deliver in one hit. Basically his maximum potential. No one here is tanking that (or one Herc) since Herc is a legit High Herald strength wise.

I think I see Prof's point, now.

What's Herc's greatest punching feat?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think I see Prof's point, now.

What's Herc's greatest punching feat?

So you think any of these people can tank Herc greatest punch (lol,I knew you agreeing with me was temporary. It's not in your blood to be on the same page as me. Traitor).?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
So you think any of these people can tank Herc greatest punch (lol,I knew you agreeing with me was temporary. It's not in your blood to be on the same page as me. Traitor).?

What is his greatest punch feat? I'm still agreeing with you. You said 1 Herc = MAXIMUM power output Hercules can deliver in one hit.

So what is that max? We obviously cannot give him a no-limits, so what is the greatest punch he has delivered?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What is his greatest punch feat? I'm still agreeing with you. You said 1 Herc = MAXIMUM power output Hercules can deliver in one hit.

So what is that max? We obviously cannot give him a no-limits, so what is the greatest punch he has delivered?

One of his best is him and Thor punches colliding so hard that it closed a dimension.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength20Avengers100.jpg.html

I can look for his best though but as shown there, his fists were described as being able to crush Worlds. We know Herc is High Herald physically but he doesn't have as many showings as someone like Hulk or Supes, so his fist fts are rare, kinda like Black Adam (and I don't think anyone would say any of these people would tank Adam maximum power output).

DarkSaint85
Then imagine 133 of them, stacked on top of each other, occurring at the EXACT same time.

Edit: looking back, it's a shared feat. So you'd need to halve them, i.e. imagine 66.5 of them stacked on top of each other.

Still a good feat.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by carver9
Correction to his post. Pandora is equal to 133 Hercs. One herc is equal to the MAXIMUM power output Hercules can deliver in one hit. Basically his maximum potential. No one here is tanking that (or one Herc) since Herc is a legit High Herald strength wise.

Equal to 133 Hercs = 133 x energy output of a single Hercules punch.

They don't have to tank a 133x Herc punch, they have to contain the energies like the Hulk did, iow replicating the feat. That's what I ask, who would be able to replicate this feat in the way Hulk did, by absorbing that power.

carver9
Herc MAXIMUM power output. You keep forgetting that. It's Herc putting everything he have into a single punch. All of his power. No one here is tanking one Herc except maybe Thanos.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by carver9
Herc MAXIMUM power output. You keep forgetting that. It's Herc putting everything he have into a single punch. All of his power. No one here is tanking one Herc.

Maximum power output of one punch, not his total energy that he has access to. Anyway, irrelevant, who can replicate the "inhaling" or containing this power feat?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
We know Herc is High Herald physically but he doesn't have as many showings as someone like Hulk or Supes, so his fist fts are rare, kinda like Black Adam (and I don't think anyone would say any of these people would tank Adam maximum power output).

Are you saying BA=Herc? If not, then don't.

Sure, his feats are rare, but we cannot do a no limits fallacy. It's said, clear as day, that 1 Herc = max amount of energy expended in 1 blow.

So to help people understand, I just wanted to know what his max on paper is, that we have seen.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
1 Herc = max amount of energy expended in 1 blow.



thumb up

So, you also agree that his total energy in him is more than this? IOW Herc has more than 1 Herc of mystic energy stored in him, though the max he can unlease at one blow is 1 Herc?

carver9
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Maximum power output of one punch, not his total energy that he has access to. Anyway, irrelevant, who can replicate the "inhaling" or containing this power feat?

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks627b.jpg

As stated. The MAXIMUM amount of ENERGY Herc could exert in one blow. It's ALL of his energy in one hit. Everything.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Are you saying BA=Herc? If not, then don't.

Sure, his feats are rare, but we cannot do a no limits fallacy. It's said, clear as day, that 1 Herc = max amount of energy expended in 1 blow.

So to help people understand, I just wanted to know what his max on paper is, that we have seen.

True. Not saying neither are equal to the other. I just brought Adam up because he doesn't have any outrageous punching fts.

DarkSaint85
Well, subsequent comics clarified that 1 Herc= total energy of, well, Hercules:

http://s5.postimg.org/k2bddrh06/Herc_009_2011_digital_Empire_021.jpg

carver9
Can't see your scan.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Can't see your scan.

That is because you are a poo head.

http://s5.postimg.org/k2bddrh06/Herc_009_2011_digital_Empire_021.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That is because you are a poo head.

http://s5.postimg.org/k2bddrh06/Herc_009_2011_digital_Empire_021.jpg

thumb up

You're a great man. Good catch.

Prof. T.C McAbe
So DS and hopefully some other posters who might read this. Who in your opinion could replicate the "digestion" feat of Hulk from my list?

Edit: DS nice scan but those kids are interpreting something that was already clarified by the person that created this scale. The maxmimum amount of energy Herc could exert in one blow. IOW the energy of Hercs most powerful blow.

Whats also interesting is the mystic energy thing, it's not about physical strength at all it seem if you take it like this.

DarkSaint85
Imo, none of them do except for Surfer, and Hal.

Thanos....might? Not sure on his absorption feats.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Hmm, just throwing this in, enough energy to vaporize half of a Galaxy.

http://i.imgur.com/C1YiuF9.jpg

Maybe this will bring other posters to participate.

Would 133 Hercs be enough to vaporize half a Galaxy?

DarkSaint85
Erm, that's anti sunlight, which presumably is still a form of sun light (Supes even says, if he can do sunlight, why not anti sun..)

Whereas Hercs are mystical. So....not quite.

Not to mention, you were talking about inhaling. His insides are not AS durable as his outside (see Manchester Black likening his blood vessels to concrete tubes) nor does he have an insane HF (like Hulk).

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So DS and hopefully some other posters who might read this. Who in your opinion could replicate the "digestion" feat of Hulk from my list?

Edit: DS nice scan but those kids are interpreting something that was already clarified by the person that created this scale. The maxmimum amount of energy Herc could exert in one blow. IOW the energy of Hercs most powerful blow.

Whats also interesting is the mystic energy thing, it's not about physical strength at all it seem if you take it like this.

I always took it to mean mystical. Not physical.

The Herc scan came later

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm, that's anti sunlight, which presumably is still a form of sun light (Supes even says, if he can do sunlight, why not anti sun..)

Whereas Hercs are mystical. So....not quite.

Not to mention, you were talking about inhaling. His insides are not AS durable as his outside (see Manchester Black likening his blood vessels to concrete tubes) nor does he have an insane HF (like Hulk).

Which hurt Superman if you read it. Still it was to show Supermans durability absorbing so much energy. Anyway, if Superman can absorb enough energy to vaporize half of the Galaxy, how much energy is inside Superman after it, how many hercs would that be? If we convert the mystical to sunlight.

abhilegend
Anti sunlight negates sunlight.

Superman also inhaled bleed which is impossible and can dissolve anything.

srug

carver9
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Which hurt Superman if you read it. Still it was to show Supermans durability absorbing so much energy. Anyway, if Superman can absorb enough energy to vaporize half of the Galaxy, how much energy is inside Superman after it, how many hercs would that be? If we convert the mystical to sunlight.

So Superman can tank Herc Maximum power in one blow?

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by carver9
So Superman can tank Herc Maximum power in one blow?

The way Hulk did it? Sure imo every Herald could tank those 133 hercs of power in a similar manner. But I want the opinions of others in this thread, that's why i am asking ^^.

carver9
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
The way Hulk did it? Sure imo every Herald could tank those 133 hercs of power in a similar manner. But I want the opinions of others in this thread, that's why i am asking ^^.

Its explained what one Herc is. So again, can Superman withstand one of Herc maximum blows? Yes or no. It's no way of circling around this argument. Hulk inhaled a living object that was attacking him in the inside with that 133 Herc power. So please answer my question.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by carver9
Its explained what one Herc is. So again, can Superman withstand one of Herc maximum blows? Yes or no. It's no way of circling around this argument. Hulk inhaled a living object that was attacking him in the inside with that 133 Herc power. So please answer my question. Yes, Superman can inhale the same object and survive it like Hulk, easier if we go by the showing with the Mageddon Warhead or a bit harder if we take the mystic part into consideration and his magic weakness.

Magnon
Superman could inhale and tank 133 Hulks worth of energy, yes.

carver9
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Yes, Superman can inhale the same object and survive it like Hulk, easier if we go by the showing with the Mageddon Warhead or a bit harder if we take the mystic part into consideration and his magic weakness.

Mag Warhead. Was that attacking him internally? Also, Superman compared that to sun light. It's not the same things. This is a weaker Hercules than Marvel Herc. Do you think Superman could tank this Herc punching him internally with all of his power 133 times?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/51088/2290232-supermen_vs_hercules.jpg

Insane Titan
Thanos tanks it or absorbs it, after all he's absorbed more power

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Who of the following Heralds or above could replicate the following feat.

Pandora has the energies of 133 Herc, a Herc is the equivalent of the mystical energy Hercules can muster in on blow.

Here is the feat:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHFlexing03627.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHFlexing04629.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHFlexing05.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHFlexing06.jpg

1. Silver Surfer tries to absorb the power.
2. Pre- DCnU Superman tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
3. Pre-DCnU Captain Marvel tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
4. Hyperion Now, tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
5. Thor tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
6. Thanos tries to inhale or absorb it, whatever suits you better.
7. Firestorm tries to absorb the power.
8. Green Lantern (Hal), tries to absorb it with his ring and contain it with willpower.
Prolly Thor.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by carver9
Mag Warhead. Was that attacking him internally? Also, Superman compared that to sun light. It's not the same things. This is a weaker Hercules than Marvel Herc. Do you think Superman could tank this Herc punching him internally with all of his power 133 times?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/51088/2290232-supermen_vs_hercules.jpg KC Superman would.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by carver9
Mag Warhead. Was that attacking him internally? Also, Superman compared that to sun light. It's not the same things. This is a weaker Hercules than Marvel Herc. Do you think Superman could tank this Herc punching him internally with all of his power 133 times?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/51088/2290232-supermen_vs_hercules.jpg

Herc made Hulk bleed too, so your point is moot, also lol at this herc being weaker. And KC Superman tanked it just fine, I think KC Superman would tank 1000 hercs, at least. ^^

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Which hurt Superman if you read it. Still it was to show Supermans durability absorbing so much energy. Anyway, if Superman can absorb enough energy to vaporize half of the Galaxy, how much energy is inside Superman after it, how many hercs would that be? If we convert the mystical to sunlight.

But what if we converted the mystical to Kryptonite radiation??

Or red sun radiation?

You can't just change it. A Herc is a unit of mystical energy.

If we change it to suit you, then yes, if we convert 133 Hercs into sunlight, he can comfortably absorb it.

Happy now?

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But what if we converted the mystical to Kryptonite radiation??

Or red sun radiation?

You can't just change it. A Herc is a unit of mystical energy.

If we change it to suit you, then yes, if we convert 133 Hercs into sunlight, he can comfortably absorb it.

Happy now?

No, antisunlight or let's make it a nuke or radiation. Since Superman flew through a Red Sun and still beat SBP I don't see you point being that onesided . Imo he can absorb it but I get your point or the one you want to make, don't worry.

Carvers point though, that absorbing and digesting this mystical energy is somehow the same as tanking physical punch of Hercules x 133 to the face just won't make sense, even if I twist it like he does.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Herc MAXIMUM power output. You keep forgetting that. It's Herc putting everything he have into a single punch. All of his power. No one here is tanking one Herc except maybe Thanos.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Imo, none of them do except for Surfer, and Hal.

Thanos....might? Not sure on his absorption feats.
Thor would.

DarkSaint85
REally? You think Thor can inhale it?

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor would.

no expression

Ok.

Genii96
surfer has both top tier energy absorbing,regenerating,and body durability feats,he can handle it,thanos can too....if thor tries to inhale it,he wont handle it..the hercs were mystical in nature,so supes would be in a difficult position

carver9
Can't see any of them (minus the people with high end absorption abilities) withstanding the maximum power of 133 Hercules inside of them attacking. It just ain't happening.

celeyhyga17
Yar

smile

carver9
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Herc made Hulk bleed too, so your point is moot, also lol at this herc being weaker. And KC Superman tanked it just fine, I think KC Superman would tank 1000 hercs, at least. ^^

Hulk became more powerful after World at War. Herc staggering Hulk with a surprised attack doesn't help you here.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
REally? You think Thor can inhale it?

Originally posted by carver9
Can't see any of them (minus the people with high end absorption abilities) withstanding the maximum power of 133 Hercules inside of them attacking. It just ain't happening.

"Lungs that can swallow oceans."
http://i.imgur.com/TsNyB97.jpg

He's actually done it. Stupid? Yes.. But he did it nonetheless.
http://i.imgur.com/MCi4wRH.jpg

And then there's this. Somehow, 133 Hercs seems a little meh...

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_2.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_3.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_4.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_5.jpg

D-Block
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
"Lungs that can swallow oceans."
http://i.imgur.com/TsNyB97.jpg

He's actually done it. Stupid? Yes.. But he did it nonetheless.
http://i.imgur.com/MCi4wRH.jpg

And then there's this. Somehow, 133 Hercs seems a little meh...

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_2.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_3.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_4.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_5.jpg

agreed 133 Hercs don't compare to the God Bomb

Tar-Antado
These guys have the most success. imo.

1. Silver Surfer tries to absorb the power.
2. Pre- DCnU Superman tries to inhale it like the Hulk.
6. Thanos tries to inhale or absorb it, whatever suits you better.
8. Green Lantern (Hal), tries to absorb it with his ring and contain it with willpower.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
"Lungs that can swallow oceans."
http://i.imgur.com/TsNyB97.jpg

He's actually done it. Stupid? Yes.. But he did it nonetheless.
http://i.imgur.com/MCi4wRH.jpg

And then there's this. Somehow, 133 Hercs seems a little meh...

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_2.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_3.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_4.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_5.jpg

Ok this is more impressive than the 133 Hercs, pretty insane.

Stoic
I find it difficult to believe that any of their insides are durable enough to withstand a punch from a being that is 133 times more powerful than Hercules. Thanos may be able to do it, but the rest burst like bags of vomit. Thor and Hercules are nearly the same strength level. If Thor were able to withstand this kind of abuse, why did he struggle while arm wrestling Hercules? If he were over 133 times stronger, he would have broke Hercules' arm off. It was an amazing feat for the Hulk, just like Superman's best feats were amazing for him.

carver9
Sigh...Hercules has stalemated Thor easily. 1 Herc = 1 Hercules. One Herc hitting Thor with everything he has would most Def injure him. Thor isn't withstand 133 Hercs. Hell, not even 5 Hercs. No insides is withstanding that amount of power. You can downplay Herc if you want but he is one of Marvel strong elites and him hitting any of these people in the face or insides, they are going to feel it. Hell, some would be busted up. Nice scans Celey.

Sin I AM
I forgot how good that God butcher arc was...but question. Did thor absorb that or was it more mjolnir?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I forgot how good that God butcher arc was...but question. Did thor absorb that or was it more mjolnir?
Used Mjolnirs to absorb the entirety of the godbomb in him.

Sin I AM
Wonder y they wrote it that way when thor has used mjolnir to absorb energy before without it affecting him

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Wonder y they wrote it that way when thor has used mjolnir to absorb energy before without it affecting him
It's not really just energy.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Hmm, just throwing this in, enough energy to vaporize half of a Galaxy.

Maybe this will bring other posters to participate.

Would 133 Hercs be enough to vaporize half a Galaxy? This post was the point of this thread, that and getting Abhi to do the dirty work

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by psycho gundam
This post was the point of this thread, that and getting Abhi to do the dirty work
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GL8QXYUKatA/T3ORe07boBI/AAAAAAAAA3g/WbX4xEzYmig/s320/the-rock-clapping.gif

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by psycho gundam
This post was the point of this thread, that and getting Abhi to do the dirty work

No, it wasn't, the point of this thread was this:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think I see Prof's point, now.

What's Herc's greatest punching feat?

So contribute or stop trolling, thanks. Insane Titan, as much as we dislike each other, at least showed that he is above such a behaviour.

psycho gundam
- Carver shoots his mouth off in other threads

- This thread is created centered around the exact topic he mentions in said thread

- You immediately put up a Superman feat you think is better and ask for assistance backing it. That shows impartiality and pettiness

Picking up on that doesn't make me a troll

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by psycho gundam
- Carver shoots his mouth off in other threads

- This thread is created centered around the exact topic he mentions in said thread

- You immediately put up a Superman feat you think is better and ask for assistance backing it. That shows impartiality and pettiness

Picking up on that doesn't make me a troll
I retract my applause. You've incited me to trollish actions for the last time.

Apologies to ProfTMcSuperman..

PG go on... Giiitt!!!

Stoic
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh...Hercules has stalemated Thor easily. 1 Herc = 1 Hercules. One Herc hitting Thor with everything he has would most Def injure him. Thor isn't withstand 133 Hercs. Hell, not even 5 Hercs. No insides is withstanding that amount of power. You can downplay Herc if you want but he is one of Marvel strong elites and him hitting any of these people in the face or insides, they are going to feel it. Hell, some would be busted up. Nice scans Celey.

First it would be great to figure out just how strong a character would be if they were 133.45 times stronger than Hercules. Then we can move on from there instead of trying to move the goal posts. are any of these guys stronger than that alone, and then taking into account that this was a blow sustained to the intestines? Hope as we know is an actual concept being. It's kind of like Love, and Hate which were portrayed as minor abstracts during one of those Infinity sagas.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
"Lungs that can swallow oceans."
http://i.imgur.com/TsNyB97.jpg

He's actually done it. Stupid? Yes.. But he did it nonetheless.
http://i.imgur.com/MCi4wRH.jpg

And then there's this. Somehow, 133 Hercs seems a little meh...

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_2.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_3.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_4.jpg

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/Thor/Thor_Godbomb_5.jpg
And he died.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U0348Or7SsQ/UtelUHXw73I/AAAAAAAB2-4/yJO5BX8LcoQ/s1600/-013+copy.jpg

So?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
And he died.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U0348Or7SsQ/UtelUHXw73I/AAAAAAAB2-4/yJO5BX8LcoQ/s1600/-013+copy.jpg

So?
Still butthurt from the other thread ic...

abhilegend
Still have no answers but excuses only, eh?

Why is it impressive if it killed him? Sure he endured it a bit but the gods were dying slowly too.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Still have no answers but excuses only, eh?

Why is it impressive if it killed him? Sure he endured it a bit but the gods were dying slowly too.
embarrasment



http://img-1.onedio.com/img/719/bound/2r0/537a07cb66a367ef07df60f1.gif

abhilegend
So nothing?

Good.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by psycho gundam
- Carver shoots his mouth off in other threads

- This thread is created centered around the exact topic he mentions in said thread

- You immediately put up a Superman feat you think is better and ask for assistance backing it. That shows impartiality and pettiness

Picking up on that doesn't make me a troll


-Carver and me had a discussion which went offtopic in the Mangog vs Hulk thread.

-I asked for Scans to create a vs thread for this off topic discussion in the very same thread, which I did with this thread.

-Just two people from the previous thread contributet and the discussion was drifting away so I provided a feat for the Hero I am most familiar with.

Think at least before posting, others did and we saw that Thor has a feat to succeed in this challange too, Thanos also if IT means what I think he does.

So contribute to this thread in a constructive way and back up a char, get out of it or get reported. Provokations and childish behavior won't work on me. Thanks.

Edit: I am not a mod but I want to keep this thread I created as clean and informative as possible, so to the other two who are just fighting their personal wars, I ask you politely to stop or I will ask PR and Bada for help. Thanks.

DarkSaint85
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