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Torreto vs Shaw

H2H

Realistically, Shaw should win. He has British Special Forces training while Dom is just a srreet fighter.

Dom is stronger though. And probably tis for most durable along with Hobbs.

Remember when he one arm tossed Deckard like he was nothing?

Yeah, but Hobbs is stronger than Dom and Dom got the best of him in their fight, which is dumb

In the movie, Dom wins. Real life, Statham wrecks Vin lol

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Yeah, but Hobbs is stronger than Dom and Dom got the best of him in their fight, which is dumb

After the last movie, it's clear Dom is the strongest one.

Realistically, Shaw should be able to take-out Dom without much trouble. Strength don't mean much if you get hit 3-4 times before you can even swing a punch... and Shaw isn't exactly a lightweight either.

Besides, remember that scene in the hospital where Shaw took out the entire hospital? I don't think Dom can do that even if he was so inclined to.

But of course Dom had to win, because he's the hero.

Shaw vs. Hobbs is the more evenly matched fight. And either of them should easily be able to take out Dom minus PIS.

Originally posted by KingD19
After the last movie, it's clear Dom is the strongest one.

You mean physically strongest? Hobbs military pressed guys through ceilings. Hobbs was stalemating Owen Shaw's huge henchman for a while in Fast 6. That same dude was ragdolling Dom til Hobbs showed up.

Shaw also had heavy weapons when he went to the hospital. He didn't h2h everybody there.

Dom and Hobbs both had trouble with that huge guy.

But Dom held a car up for a few minutes and caused an enormous parking structure to collapse with a stomp. He also one arm slung Shaw about 15 feet from an angle with almost no leverage iirc.

I think Dom and Hobbs are supposed to be portrayed as being close in terms of strength. Hobbs did move large pieces of reinforced concrete (which can weigh over a 1000lbs at the size of those chunks) with a supposedly "broken" arm. He also handled that minigun without any kind of problems with the same arm.

Hobbs has better durability feats though. Explosion + multi storey fall flattening a car, and sustained relatively minor injuries. Also drove an ambulance through a concrete barrier and crashed it into a drone flying below, causing the whole thing to go up in a ball of flames, only to emerge from the wreckage moments later, totally unscathed.

The fight I really wanted to see, but that we never got, was Hobbs vs Kiet (Jaa's character).

I see them as close, but Dom is stronger while Hobbs is better trained. Both are tanks on legs though.

Letty is still the most OP character. She can talk people back to life.

She also survived a car with a full tank of gas and a N02 tank exploding in her face and knocking her 40 feet through the air and down a steep hill with only temporary amnesia.

Nah, she had a token scratch or two on her face IIRC.

Overall, the F&F guys are more in line with what comic "regular" humans can possibly achieve, as opposed to real world ones.

Deckard, Hobbs, and Dom are all around MCU Cap level.

Tej's Krav Maga demo in 7 seems to put him around Widow level skillwise.

And they're all God's behind the wheel. They'd make a mean tram in a comic.

Originally posted by KingD19
Deckard, Hobbs, and Dom are all around MCU Cap level.

Tej's Krav Maga demo in 7 seems to put him around Widow level skillwise.

And they're all God's behind the wheel. They'd make a mean tram in a comic.

I dunno if they are around Cap's level, I think he is far above them in durability and strength.

That fall Hobbs took is nothing compared to the falls Cap has taken.

Jumping out of a helicopter with no chute.
Jumping out of the shield elevator
Falls from the Hellicarrier after just being shot and beaten.

I'd say he does have more durability feats, but Dom held a car thr same as Cap, and that stomp was insane.

Originally posted by KingD19
I'd say he does have more durability feats, but Dom held a car thr same as Cap, and that stomp was insane.

While the car was extremely light, it was armored as well. It was still pretty impressive

It was durable enough to crash through a few buildings and fall a good distance to the ground and still be in somewhat good shape. The armorimg probably made it heavy as ahit.

Originally posted by KingD19
It was durable enough to crash through a few buildings and fall a good distance to the ground and still be in somewhat good shape. The armorimg probably made it heavy as ahit.

Yea it was a good feat, hard to tell if that was heavier then the beam Cap lifted while hurt. But we do know he lifted a bike with 3 people on it. If we put Dom in Cap's situations his superhuman abilities might not be up to the challenge.

There's that, but consider he collapsed an entire parking deck with a stomp. Yeach it was weakened by the rocket, but I don't see anyone under Cap level pulling off something like that.

Now saying he is Cap level doesn't make him an equal, just that what he does is in the realm of what Steve does.

What was parking lot feat?

shaw is more durable, look at the fight with Hobbs. he was thrown around and absolutely pounded... still managed to keep going. we havent really seen torreto dish that damage to shaw

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What was parking lot feat?

He stomped a parking deck weakened a bit by an explosion and the entire thing collapsed.

Oh yea

Originally posted by KingD19
Tej's Krav Maga demo in 7 seems to put him around Widow level skillwise.


We agree on a lot of things, generally, but I have to disagree here. Widow would kill him. He is remarkably competent for a guy who is supposed to be a geeky street racer, but Widow does things like neck snap two Hydra soldiers at the same time during combat.