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Round 1: No BFR

Round 2: Anything goes

Who wins?

No one?

Possibly Apoc.

The movie isn't out, and you dumbasses are trying to ruin it for everyone.

If the movie isnt out yet were are just making speculations and we dont know for sure....biscuits

Its out if you want to watch a decent quality boot of it in a link I can provide in PM , that and if you don't mind a few edited scenes of them speaking Portuguese.

Originally posted by carthage
Its out if you want to watch a decent quality boot of it in a link I can provide in PM , that and if you don't mind a few edited scenes of them speaking Portuguese.

that frustrated the **** out of me watching it...especially as it happened during the jean wolves scene and i wanted to know what she said about him

Also during the Magneto scene when he was about to kill off the workers....haermm

I remember downloading wrong turn in Italian a while a go

Apocalypse.

Apoc crushed him...

So in one thread you say that only the PF can kill him.

But when it comes to DC, you don't apply your same logic.

Prove that DD can be killed by anything but the Knite spear.

Hmmmm.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So in one thread you say that only the PF can kill him.

But when it comes to DC, you don't apply your same logic.

Prove that DD can be killed by anything but the Knite spear.

Your thought process is so limited its pathetic...

You only consider a brute force win, but Apoc can attack Astrally as well (and defend himself physically at the same time)...

Apoc crushes Doomsday's mind 10/10...

"Astrally"



Wtf are you smoking these days besides a blue dong?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So in one thread you say that only the PF can kill him.

But when it comes to DC, you don't apply your same logic.

Prove that DD can be killed by anything but the Knite spear.

That's right "astrally" as in Astral Plane...

You know, the place were Apoc assumed Giant Form and was crushing Xaviers mind?

How is that crushing doomsday who is a mindless zombie beast?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How is that crushing doomsday who is a mindless zombie beast?

Doomsday was more than that...

It had enough of a mind to know how to fight; when to use its ranged attack and how to identify targets to attack...

A mindless zombie just shuffles forward with its arms extended and cant do much else...Doomsday was far more than that.

Are you not familiar with what Doomsday is?

"During his rampage, Doomsday's interest was captured by billboards and television spots advertising violent wrestling competitions held in Metropolis, which appealed to his blood lust and thus enticed the otherwise mindless creature to head towards the city. "

So How is Apoc crushing him?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Are you not familiar with what Doomsday is?

So How is Apoc crushing him?

Apoc has many many options here...

Crushing Doomsdays mind is the easiest option for round 1...

For round 2, just TP him into orbit...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Are you not familiar with what Doomsday is?

"During his rampage, Doomsday's interest was captured by billboards and television spots advertising violent wrestling competitions held in Metropolis, which appealed to his blood lust and thus enticed the otherwise mindless creature to head towards the city. "

So How is Apoc crushing him?

That which you quote applies to the comic version...

Besides, if it has enough of a mind for billboards and advertising to interest him, then Doomsday definitely isnt mindless...

What you posted contradicts itself and you helped my argument...

You don't debate very well; Apoc crushes Doomsday's mind 10/10...

It actually hurts your argument. He cares about nothing, just destruction.

How is he crushing his mind, he is a mindless living abomination.

Clark already tried to take him out of orbit, DD came back just fine.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How is he crushing his mind, he is a mindless living abomination.

Clark already tried to take him out of orbit, DD came back just fine.

Hes not...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It actually hurts your argument. He cares about nothing, just destruction.

How is he crushing his mind, he is a mindless living abomination.

Clark already tried to take him out of orbit, DD came back just fine.

The nuke stopped Clark before he actually got him into orbit...

In a forum fight there will be no outside interference...

Apoc wins...

They were out of orbit when the nuke hit. Try again.

How does he win? Stop going the TP route to solve your problems.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
They were out of orbit when the nuke hit. Try again.

How does he win? Stop going the TP route to solve your problems.

No, they were not in orbit, because if they were, Doomsday wouldn't have just fell back to the Earth after being nuked; he would have continued to orbit the Earth...

Doomsday can and has accessed anti gravity powers like every other kryptoninan, so

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Doomsday can and has accessed anti gravity powers like every other kryptoninan, so

Anti gravity wont stop TP from working...

Besides, when did the movie version of Doomsday demonstrate flight?

Quit looking for TP to save you.

Find me a example of Apoc being able to teleport into orbit.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Quit looking for TP to save you.

Find me a example of Apoc being able to teleport into orbit.

Apoc doesnt need to be able to teleport into orbit get Doomsday there with TP...

You have no counterargument against this...

Apoc defeats Doomsday 10/10...

I already countered it. You made up claims that he could TP him out of orbit. Proof?

Going with DD.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I already countered it. You made up claims that he could TP him out of orbit. Proof?

??

How much does DD weigh? Being generous, a ton at best...

How much do you think that pyramid Apocalypse reconstructed in seconds weighed? Thousands of tons at a minimum...

Yeah Apoc can absolutely boot a 1 ton being into orbit with TP...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He cares about nothing, just destruction.

How can something mindless care about anything?

LoL...Logic 101.

If Doomsday can care about anything, then it isnt mindless, and if it isnt mindless then Apoc can crush that mind on the Astral Plane...

Apoc wins...

Prove he can access DD on the astral plane.

Thats right, he can't

Charles was able to access him.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Prove he can access DD on the astral plane.

Thats right, he can't

Charles was able to access him.

Why cant he?

Doomsday has a mind; minds can be accessed on the Astral Plane...

You just trying to split this hair as all your other arguments have failed...

Doomsday is out of his league against Apoc; just accept it and move on...

Apoc never accessed anyone mind on the astral plane.

Quit making feats up and follow the rules.

Who says they failed, you; the Lord of Brooklyn?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Apoc never accessed anyone mind on the astral plane.

Quit making feats up and follow the rules.

Who says they failed, you; the Lord of Brooklyn?

I'm not making up a thing...

We have concrete proof that Apoc can access the Astral Plane at will...

Apoc locates and access's Doomsday's mind and destroys it there...

Apoc wins...

You have zero proof, cause there is none, he never did it, lob

Now what you lied about.


Xavier accessed Apoc cause they had linked before.

So your not only a retard, but a liar.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You have zero proof, cause there is none, he never did it, lob

I have proof he can access the Astral Plane...

Thats all I need...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I have proof he can access the Astral Plane...

Thats all I need...

Gotcha, so no proof.

Glad we got that out there.

Xavier accessed his mind, and that is all.

Apoc never did it to anyone.

Concession accepted, liar lob

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I have proof he can access the Astral Plane; he did it in the movie...

Thats all I need...

The truth!

Xavier accessed his mind

"I can access him since our minds linked before."

Concession accepted on no proof of Apoc doing it to anyone.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Xavier accessed his mind

"I can access him since our minds linked before."

Concession accepted on no proof of Apoc doing it to anyone.

Xavier accessed it and was crushed by Apoc's superior mind...

Apoc access'ed the minds of everyone in the world when Apoc was controlling Xavier through Cerebro...

So yeah, Apoc can attack anyone Astrally as well...

Apoc never attacked anyone on the astral plane.

He was inside his head defending his own mind.

Concession accepted.

DD would crush him physicall, but Apocalypse wins with mental powers.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Apoc never attacked anyone on the astral plane.

He was inside his head defending his own mind.

Concession accepted.

For someone who cant attack on the Astral Plane, he sure was beating the hell out of Xavier...wasnt he?

See, you cant even forumlate a coherent argument; if this was a formal debate setting I would have destroyed you many times over...

Give it up; Apoc owns your garbage Superman and Doomsday...

He was not attacking people on the astral plane, you have to provide screen feats. Raging like a teenager on her period wont help you. Dont accuse me of bias, I thought this movie was one of the best I have ever seen, but I wont have you lying like a rabid marvel fanboy like you do in every thread.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He was not attacking people on the astral plane, you have to provide screen feats. Raging like a teenager on her period wont help you. Dont accuse me of bias, I thought this movie was one of the best I have ever seen, but I wont have you lying like a rabid marvel fanboy like you do in every thread.

Do you remember Apoc taking control of the mind of Xavier while being amped by Cerebro?

Yeah, so do I you liar...

Apoc cant attack psionically my a$$...

Thats not an astral plane attack.

Xaviers mind has always had issues with other strong telepaths.

Show him attacking anyone on the astral plane like you claimed.

Apoc cant attack psionically

Quit moving goal posts since now you know you are wrong.

Since you can't prove he attacked anyone on the astral plane, concession accepted.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Thats not an astral plane attack.

Xaviers mind has always had issues with other strong telepaths.

Show him attacking anyone on the astral plane like you claimed.

Apoc cant attack psionically

Quit moving goal posts since now you know you are wrong.

Since you can't prove he attacked anyone on the astral plane, concession accepted.

What are you smoking!??

Apoc attacked Xavier very well Astrally; we all saw it...

Now quit ignoring the feat with your lies and attempt at misdirection...

Prove where he attacked it astrally.

Describe the scene.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Prove where he attacked it astrally.

Describe the scene.

Watch the movie again since your memory is so poor...

He never attacked anyone astrally, Charles went into his head.

Meaning Charles has the ability to do it, Apoc does not.

Concession accepted, lob

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What are you smoking!??

Apoc attacked Xavier very well Astrally; we all saw it...

Now quit ignoring the feat with your lies and attempt at misdirection...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What am I smoking!??

Apoc never attacked Xavier, Astrally; we all saw it...

Now quit telling the truth about the feats

Agreed