A woman who achieved real power, on her own terms, and stood firm even if the entire world called her a monster.
You could hate the woman for her politics, but at least recognize she is a woman in a man's world who bowed to nobody.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
She achieved power on 1979. Feminism in the US was only about a decade or two old at that point (No idea about UK equivilents).
And my point is that:
1. She was a trailblazer. The women you mention come much later.
2. You don't like her. A lot of people didn't like her. And she wouldn't bend.
And isn't that really the whole point of feminism? That a woman doesn't need to impress you or anybody else, and can become what they want to become. You don't like it, they'll just walk around you, or on top of you if need be.
I think that's an admirable thing, personally.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Even if I didn't already like her before coming to this site, I would after learning how all the leftists here disliked her.
That's a good rule of thumb to follow: if leftists/socialists don't like someone, it probably means he or she is actually a good person.
If they do like someone a lot, it probably actually means that person is NOT actually a good person.
Obviously there would be some rare exceptions to this rule though.
__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
Last edited by eThneoLgrRnae on Jul 31st, 2021 at 10:57 PM
I could post Obama or really any world leader with a monster. That's simply a reality of politics, and does not mean condoning a thing.
But you actually play into my point with your attempt to argue against her character.
Which was never my point to begin with. I never called her a good leader, or a good person.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
A woman who got elected to one of the most powerful positions on the planet.
Don't confuse looking at what she symbolizes with romanticizing the person. All I'm saying is feminism argues that women, as a group, should not need anyone's permission to live or achieve.
And she certainly lived as she wanted to, and achieved greatness, in the face of mass disapproval.
That is the feminist ideal.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Keep in mind though, any leader jaden actually would give his seal of approval for would be one that probably supports mass infantacide so.... yeah, I don't take his " she committed genocide!!" arguments seriously anymore than I take the arguments seriously from people in general who support abortion/baby murder but then try to lecture us about "if we can save just one life with gun control it is worth it!" or "if we can save just one life by forcing vaccines on people then it'
s worth it!!" bullshit.
__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
All politicians are monsters, male or female or other, and if they weren't before then it forges them into the worst version of themselves just takes time and bribes... er lobbyist money.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
It's the first time I mentioned him in this thread. Whirly commented to him and you said he's trolling, so assumed you were directing to Jaden being trolled..
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.