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Did Sidious actually cared for Anakin?
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king_arthur
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Did Sidious actually cared for Anakin?

Although I will not doubt that he lied to Anakin to help him turn to the Dark Side, I really do think that he enjoyed him as a friend.

In ROTJ, he often referred to Vader as his friend, but more importantly, at the end of ROTS, with Anakin laying all burned up, he comes to his side and puts his hand on his head as if to say, "I'm hear now and will care for you."

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No, Sidious did not care for Anakin. He cared for Anakin's ability to aid him in gaining complete galactic control. Nothing more.


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Nah, Vader was just a pawn for power, nothing more.


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well, i guess he cared for him as much as a sith can care for anybody...not too much. he was just an instrument to get palply his goals.


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I get what your saying, honest friendship or just so vader would be on his side.

Honesty doesnt seem to be something the sith have.

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i guess my post was a bit late eh?

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Evidence:
In ROTJ, he orders Luke to kill Vader and "take his place by (plap's) side". That's not what friends do, I'm afraid.

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Up until his goal is the replace Vader, I believe Palpatine cares...er...sort of, for Anakin. Not a great deal of "Anakin, I love you bestest best friend ever," more of a "Anakin, you sexy *****, kill people for me and I'll give you cookies! The ones with dark chocolate chips..."

But yeah, mostly it was Palpatine earning Anakin's trust to manipulate him further.


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cameron666
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He cared a little bit. He mainly cared about anakin's power, but a little of him saw Anakin as a friend.


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No, Palpatine cared for no one. Sith teachings encourage absolute selfishness.


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DenKi
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well he did put his hand on his face when Anakin was burned on the floor, to kinda makew him feel better likes hes his Son.

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Valar Melkor
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Interesting. I think he did, at least initially. By ROTJ, he was looking for a new apprentice, in the form of young Luke. When Vader emerged, he was not what Sidious was expecting. He cared for Anakin, but was truly revolted with Vader. The only thing he liked was that his anger was still intact. Luke would have made a perfect new apprentice. Of course Sidious wanted Luke to kill Vader. Remember, friends, treachery is the way of the Sith


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by JKozzy
No, Sidious did not care for Anakin. He cared for Anakin's ability to aid him in gaining complete galactic control. Nothing more.


yep ,just another ´´instrument´´ for sidious

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Valar Melkor
Interesting. I think he did, at least initially. By ROTJ, he was looking for a new apprentice, in the form of young Luke. When Vader emerged, he was not what Sidious was expecting. He cared for Anakin, but was truly revolted with Vader. The only thing he liked was that his anger was still intact. Luke would have made a perfect new apprentice. Of course Sidious wanted Luke to kill Vader. Remember, friends, treachery is the way of the Sith


Agreed. Vader came out much less powerful then expected. Luke, with not enough training, soon achieved a great level. He would have become a powerful sith big grin also leia could be turned if luke was. Then palp would have the TWIN KILLERS hehehehe.


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Originally posted by DenKi
well he did put his hand on his face when Anakin was burned on the floor, to kinda makew him feel better likes hes his Son.


Palps did that because he was using the dark side to keep Vader alive. He still felt Vader would be powerful with the suit on and that he would still be useful to keep around.


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anyone who thinks that sidious and anakin were 'friends' in ANY sense of the word needs to watch the films a few more times and understand.

from the SECOND anakin found out palps was a sith lord he hated him.
palps only used anakin to gain power and the SECOND he learned of luke,
he planned on having him kill vader. vader joined palps to save his wife and when she dies he was already twisted, so his ONLY motivation from that
point was to take all that power away from his master and keep it for himself

there was no love, no liking, no friendship, not so much as "eeeeh he's ok"
N-O-T-H-I-N-G

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Originally posted by Captain REX
Up until his goal is the replace Vader, I believe Palpatine cares...er...sort of, for Anakin. Not a great deal of "Anakin, I love you bestest best friend ever," more of a "Anakin, you sexy *****, kill people for me and I'll give you cookies! The ones with dark chocolate chips..."


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Captain REX
Up until his goal is the replace Vader, I believe Palpatine cares...er...sort of, for Anakin. Not a great deal of "Anakin, I love you bestest best friend ever," more of a "Anakin, you sexy *****, kill people for me and I'll give you cookies! The ones with dark chocolate chips..."

But yeah, mostly it was Palpatine earning Anakin's trust to manipulate him further.


THAT is one of the best posts in this forum, I think......


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Score! eek!


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He cares for Anakin the same way a person can care about a drill or a shovel. They're just tools to be used until something better comes along.


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