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KJ
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Dooku's confession
Why does Count Dooku tell Obi-Wan that a Sith is in control of the Republic? What is the purpose of telling him?
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finti
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Cause he thought Obi Wan was gonna die, why not gloat a little
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Jun 1st, 2002 09:07 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Because being tricky like that is his way now. It was also an attempt to pull Obi-Wan onto his side, and even further than that may be an attempt to reduce suspicion on Dooku actually being the other Sith.
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Jun 1st, 2002 09:12 PM |
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mechmoggy
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I agree, its like Vader telling Luke that they should join forces to destroy the Emporer so they can rule the galaxy as father and son.
Dark lords are not to be trusted, they only seek to better thier own position of power.
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Jun 1st, 2002 11:12 PM |
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ToMacco
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Well King Jedi. Dooku gets a little loose with his tounge when he's drinking.
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Jun 2nd, 2002 05:13 AM |
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finti
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Thing is that the Emeror eagees on Vaders suggestion on trying to bring Luke over to the dark side in ESB, and it is kind of Vader and Emps agenda in ROTJ too. So are they(Vader and EMp) looking away from the two siths "rule"
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Jun 2nd, 2002 08:40 AM |
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Ushgarak
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George Lucas has stated otherwise in an interview, saying that the rule still applies and those two will always be trying to bump off the other. Which makes the ESB conversation look rather odd.
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Jun 2nd, 2002 08:57 AM |
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REXXXX
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You know how Ob1 is like a father to Anakin? Well, that makes Qui-Gon the grandfather and Dooku the great-grandfather and Yoda the great-great-grandfather. And Luke is the son and Ben Skywalker, Jacen Solo, Jaina Solo, and Anakin Solo are the grandchildren.  
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GordonSkywalker
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I think Dooku wanted to confuse matters for Obi-Wan.
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Feb 28th, 2003 04:50 PM |
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Mujaffa
Lift a Mullah
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: In Norway .. God damitt
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it's allways like that..the bad guy tell the good guy the plans and then gets kicked ass..in this case the republic's ass
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Mar 18th, 2003 09:29 PM |
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REXXXX
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True, true...
The reason the Emperor was letting Vader look for Luke is that, if anyone was going to be replaced, he would replace the aging Vader with his equally powerful son. Vader was considering doing the same for his Emperor, though it ended up with both of them dead and the Sith extinct.
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Mar 19th, 2003 05:26 AM |
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queeq
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Sith, and all good deceivers, use 90% truth and mix a little untruth in there which changes all perception.
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Mar 19th, 2003 08:40 AM |
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Ushgarak
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The conversation still makes no sense, though. It is absolutely clear from what they are talking about that they are considering Luke as a powerful ally- a third member of their team. Why would they contact each other and gleefully discuss that they are now looking for what they consider to be each other's replacement?
The 'rule of two' fits in with a lot of things thematically but that ESB convo is where it falls short, continuity wise.
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Mar 19th, 2003 01:00 PM |
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queeq
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I dunno.... I kinda gives a nice twist to the matter. After all, all Sith masters should now that their apprentices will try to take over. It's no big secret. On the other hand if the Master wants to stay Master he'll have to replace a possibly rebelling apprentice. So they fact that they'd talk like this, could say something about a very cold and suspicious relationship and about an attitude of low esteem towards each other. It's pretty bold and arrogant to both play out the trump cards and pretend it's a normal card knowing that both players will not be fooled. It's like: cards are on the table, let the game begin and may the baddest win!
I dunno, I kinda like that.
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Mar 19th, 2003 04:16 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKCo-Admin
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Ys, but that IS rather blatantly having to twist what we have to fit. It clearly was not the meaning behind it at the time.
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Mar 19th, 2003 04:51 PM |
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queeq
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True. But that goes for so many things. Like OB1 meeting Anakin as a kid, that was not in the spirit of ANH I'm sure. I'm pretty sure GL didn't think of Jedi being trained only as very small children.
Still, I like that dark twist on that ESB convo.
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REXXXX
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I do too.
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Mar 21st, 2003 04:58 AM |
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finti
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Registered: Dec 2000
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ESB rules
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Mar 21st, 2003 01:07 PM |
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queeq
Chaos
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: JP's bedModerator
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YAYYY!!
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Mar 21st, 2003 02:46 PM |
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mechmoggy
Northern Monkey
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I don't like that "always two there are" rule, I always imagined there to be an army of dark jedi's just as there are good ones. That new rule is almost as bad as the midi-chlori-whatsits. Booo! 
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