Ok, none of the choices on the poll reflect my opinion so here it is. The EU is canon as long as it is not contradicted by the movies and is WELL WRITTEN AND CHARACTERIZES CHARACTERS ACCURATLY. I can not tell you how much I hate boba fett's characterization in the novels. so off what I have read-all prequal era stuff is cannon, truce at bakura, and shadows of the empire are canon, star wars republic and empire are cannon, the thrawn quintology is cannon. jedi vs. sith and all events surrounding the sith war are cannon. everything else is pure, tightly coiled crap
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Fair enough...great point.
I'm ok with the EU stuff as long as it doesn't screw the movies around. I mean, I love reading about Leia & Han and their family, and Mara Jade too but stuff like...Chewie dying...NO WAY!! That just ruins it for me.
Truce at Bakura is good...but a lot of stuff in NJO is better than that. Have you read NJO, or are you just dismissing it without trying? Also, I, Jedi is excellent, as is the Jedi Academy trilogy.
great comment jello. that's sorta how I look at it too. The same items you listed as being believable and possibly in continuity are the exact ones I consider in. There were so many books written just to sell books its sick. So yes, as a whole, I vote no for the EU being canon. If they went in, took some titles out, made it clear what Lucas considers in and what he doesn't, then I would change my opinion. But as far as what I accept as being where the characters have been and what they've done off screen, Jello, you've llsted a lot of the best. especially the prequel era stuff and Empire & Republic comics.
I agree with Jello mostly, I think that EU should be canon if it doesent contradict the movies. But I think that if the whole of EU should be revised revised after Ep III, before it is declared canon so that everything is well written and realistic because I agree that I didnt like a few things. But then again I didnt like a few things in the prequels.
Jello has forgotten quite a few good EU stories/novels. All the Tales novels are great, x-wing novels and rogue squadron comics. The things that are unrealistic or too much but are still good should remain EU and not disappear into nothingness.
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and thats another big problem with the whole EU/Film debating thing, people can pretty much decide for themselves whose vision (which writer's take) on a character best matches the movies, but its not the same for eveyone. What's on film you simply have to accept, the books you can pick and choose, and ignore the crap you don't like. Which might be great to someone else...and the cycle goes on and on and on.
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I don't actually think becoming synonomous with film canon would serve the EU.
I think the only reason the EU has been able to thrive the way it has been it prcisely because it has been given leave to experiment, and the only way in Hell that GL will grant that is if it does not share the same continuity.
The EU has its own canon (from which it excludes things like Splinter of the Mind's Eye and the Infinities products) which is perfectly valid in its own right for people to enjoy- and as we know, some people enjoy that continuity more so than the simple film-based plotline.
The only reason you would want it synonomous with film canon is because of the impression that this would make the EU somehow better, or more accepted. But with millions of people already enjoying it- why worry?
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Again...a good point. I suppose I'm just tired of not being able to bring it up without Finti and Yersott (the only two people who do it on these boards) jumping up and down and screaming "NO! THE EU SUCKS! THE EU SUCKS! YOU SUCK FOR LIKING THE EU! THE EU SUCKS!"
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man, finti and ush are gonna have a great time with this thread. i voted for the middle choice, by the way.
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There's too many inconsistancies within the EU already to make it canon. I love both canon and EU but accept that they're only cousins not immeadiate family to each other.
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EU is excellent. sure, it has some flaws, but it is still very good. The hand of thrwan trilogy? excellent. Are you trying to tell me that it wasnt cool when it explained the noghri, how vader manipulated them, how they worshipped him, and how they came to be leia's bodyguards, calling her "lady vader?"
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