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Darth Truculent
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A Serious Question: Galen Marek stronger than Vader?

When Galen died he had just previously defeated Vader who was 80% of Sidious's strength. Can it be questioned that Galen Marek was stronger than Vader? At the time, he had Vader completely at his mercy and could have killed him, but didn't. Galen was a quasi-Jedi and a hell of a lot stronger than Luke in ROTJ and stronger than Obi-Wan. So is it safe to assume he was stronger than Vader? I'm not making any assumptions or stating my opinion, but is a very good question.


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Obviously.

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Originally posted by Vengeful Koala
Obviously.


In form of Force potency ability and usage definately, sabers however I believe vader would have him. Since a qoute from TFU novel says that approx "Vader was overpowering him[marek] until he[marek] used the force to rip Vader's saber from his grasp."

Or something like that.


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He was never "overpowering" him, from the analysis I've seen. The best he did was scorch Marek's clothing.

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Originally posted by Vengeful Koala
He was never "overpowering" him, from the analysis I've seen. The best he did was scorch Marek's clothing.


Hmph, well Vader certainly kicked my behind on TFU.

Alas, Galen Would win overall anyway so what does it matter.


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I have a question: which canon is actually stronger? The novel canon? Or the cut-scene canon? Because, I mean, in the cut-scene, Marek kicks the shit out of Vader, all-out. I don't know about the novel.


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Since Marek kinda, you know, beat Vader,


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Originally posted by Major Valerian
I have a question: which canon is actually stronger? The novel canon? Or the cut-scene canon? Because, I mean, in the cut-scene, Marek kicks the shit out of Vader, all-out. I don't know about the novel.


I honestly don't know. I could see it going either way. The reasons for the novel being higher canon is obvious but at the same time the videogame was the main object of TFU merchandise (novel,comic, and game) sort of like the movie was in relation to the novel.Though i prefer/hope it is the novel because of the details of the fights.

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How does the fight go in the novel?


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I would definitely take the novel over the game in most cases, especially since we can't really say for certainty which one of the games shows us the "real" story; the Wii, 360/PS3, PS2, PSP, and DS versions all have differences in the cutscenes. They all point to the same outcome - Vader gets his ass kicked, hard - but the exact details are often contradictory.

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as far as story goes, the game was a sad sad breach of canon that lucasarts has yet to pull off. As zero punctuation said "apparently this game is supposed to tie the prequel series to the orginal trilogy which raises the question 'why would we want to do this terrible thing?' Its like tying your breakfast to a plague rat.'
and
"i mean Christ, luke sky walker was supposed to be some sort of force prodigy and the most he could do is move a lightsaber by grimacing it for an hour, and here's this lad clearing an entire hallway with a cough."

Its really a sickening twisted failure at storytelling that needs to be declared uncanon.


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Well, true he's extremely powerful in the Force, but he's not the only one to do things on that scale, a kid in the Coruscant Nights series did some pretty amazing things too. And Luke has done some pretty impressive things, I just think it took them longer to show Luke's feats because they had to flesh his character out, Galen Marek was meant to die young, so they could just let him go all out from the get go.

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Really a waste of a character. I know he had no real future because he doesn't show up in the films, but if that was true they should have just done something else entirely.


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I would have rather had a game like that following the story of some jedi with an unknown fate... say, quinlan vos. He could die and start the rebellion and stuff in the same way and it would tie up a main story arch involving one of my favorite characters.


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Technically, it was because of him that the whole rebellion was started. Plus his families symbol was adopted by the Rebellion, without Galen Marek, there is no Rebellion, which in turn means there is now new Alliance.

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it was because of him that the whole rebellion was started.


I haven't played the game or read the book, but this is false. The Novelization of RotS (and deleted scenes from the movie) contradict this: Padme spoke with the instigators of the rebellion (Mon Mothma (sp?) etc.) before Anakin's fall.


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Originally posted by Red Nemesis
I haven't played the game or read the book, but this is false. The Novelization of RotS (and deleted scenes from the movie) contradict this: Padme spoke with the instigators of the rebellion (Mon Mothma (sp?) etc.) before Anakin's fall.


The spelling of Mon Mothma is correct.

Padme did speak to the instigators of the rebellion but it was Galen's sacrifice that firmly set the idea of rebellion in their minds and

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Technically, it was because of him that the whole rebellion was started. Plus his families symbol was adopted by the Rebellion, without Galen Marek, there is no Rebellion, which in turn means there is now new Alliance.


is correct they unveiled the Marek family crest and it was used as the symbol of the Rebellion.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
I haven't played the game or read the book, but this is false. The Novelization of RotS (and deleted scenes from the movie) contradict this: Padme spoke with the instigators of the rebellion (Mon Mothma (sp?) etc.) before Anakin's fall.
Yup, but there was still no cohesion. Garm Bel Iblis comes to mind: apparently after Bail died on Alderaan, he and Mon Mothma lacked a moderator between them and he left to wage a "private war". That same... difference was present before TFU and it was Marek who unified them under a leader and banner. He only lasted about 20 seconds but still, point remains.


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Plus he also f*$%#& up that 7'2 asthmatic with the torso lite brite.

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That reminds me, I have to find an ATM.


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