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Anakin fell to the dark side way too quickly

OK, so Anakin's really close to Obi Wan. They're like brothers. He's a really good person, fighting for the Republic and helping people. He all cool.

Then Palpatine begins talking to him about this sith lord that could prevent people from dying. Anakin is clearly interested.

Anakin then learns that Palpatine is really Darth Sidious. He tells Mace Windu who tries to arrest Sidious. They duel, and Mace defeats Sidious. Anakin inadvertently helps Sidious get back and kill Mace.

Anakin regrets what he did, but then just kneels down to Sidious, a SIT H LORD, whom he's not only been taught to hate (for good reason), but has also had bad experiences with them, and BELIEVES Sidious's claim that they can learn to save Padme, and actually BELIEVES that Sidious cares.

So then SUDDENLY, he goes and starts slaughtering younglings and Jedi whom he used to fight alongside. He seems to hate them all the sudden for NO reason.

He also suddenly hates Obi Wan for NO reason, and hates the Jedi for NO reason.


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GL is a shitty writer. That's about it/

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Read the new book:"Stealth" Or "Gambit" or something like that. Lots of anakin backstory. He was taking the death of every clone trooper personally.

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Leave it to the shitty next-to-fan-fic writers to correct GL's mistakes...


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Anakin's 'dark side' had been building up for a long while before RotS, but yeah, I agree that the actual transformation from a conflicted Jedi Knight into a 'slaughterer of younglings' was a bit too sudden.

...Though I guess once you decide aid the Dark Lord of the Sith in murdering one of the most esteemed Jedi Masters in the order, there's really nothing left to do but become a Sith yourself.... It's not like the Jedi would have taken Anakin back with open arms after something like that. /shrug


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Anakin's 'dark side' had been building up for a long while before RotS, but yeah, I agree that the actual transformation from a conflicted Jedi Knight into a 'slaughterer of younglings' was a bit too sudden.

...Though I guess once you decide aid the Dark Lord of the Sith in murdering one of the most esteemed Jedi Masters in the order, there's really nothing left to do but become a Sith yourself.... It's not like the Jedi would have taken Anakin back with open arms after something like that. /shrug


If a guy kills your family and burns down your home/all of your money and possesions, would you join his gang simply because you have "nothing left to do"? Of course not.


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If a guy kills your family and burns down your home/all of your money and possesions, would you join his gang simply because you have "nothing left to do"? Of course not.
That's not really what happened, though. Anakin stopped Mace from killing Sidious, so that he could be taught how to save Padme (or so he thought.) And after assisting a Sith lord in the slaying of a Jedi Master, there was really no turning back.

So in answer to your question: if I were already an accomplice to murder, and IF the evil guy I just aided in said murder also told me that he knew a way to save my wife's life, I probably would join him. It's either that or be imprisoned for the rest of my life, and/or be killed for my crimes.

It's one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of situations.


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I'm telling you, read the book, it paints a WHOLE NEW anakin. The reasons, with that book, that he fell are complex, and all of the sudden, good literature.

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btw the whole Invisible Hand fight gave him a feel for the dark side.


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Stover did a pretty good job with Anakin, even though he didn't have much to work with.

I just hated how every other word was in italics.

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It really makes it hard to properly cite passages.


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Still, Anakin falling to the dark side despite being a very caring person, hating the sith and being warned for almost his entire life to not trust them suddenly turns to the dark side. A few minutes before he does he's still the loving and caring Anakin, and then BANG he turns evil and ruthless. WTF?


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1 - Tusken Raiderslol
2 - Watto
3 - Invisible Hand
4 - Padme
5 - Padme
6 - Padme
7 - Spying (both for and on Palpatine)
8 - They won't put him on the council
9 - Padme


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He trusts sidious. Death of his Padawan. (however that happens)

Death of his soldiers.

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Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
If a guy kills your family and burns down your home/all of your money and possesions, would you join his gang simply because you have "nothing left to do"? Of course not.
You didn't watch the movie or read the novel, did you?


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lol

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Remember the whole "bring balance to the force thing". He brought balance not through himself but through his children. Luke going darkside with Emporer clone and Leia bringing him back etc. You could say it was his destiny to go bad. But I agree that the movie really screwed it up on the how. Ever notice in all movies they tend to wrap it up in the last 10-30 minutes.


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Originally posted by Shoes
1 - Tusken Raiderslol
2 - Watto
3 - Invisible Hand
4 - Padme
5 - Padme
6 - Padme
7 - Spying (both for and on Palpatine)
8 - They won't put him on the council
9 - Padme


Him turning to the dark side would dishonor the sacrafices of his mother, his padawan (if Ahsoka dies in the CW, which is unlikely), his troops, etc. Surely Anakin would know that.


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Him turning to the dark side would dishonor the sacrafices of his mother, his padawan (if Ahsoka dies in the CW, which is unlikely), his troops, etc. Surely Anakin would know that.
It's called Revenge. If someone killed my mother I'd try my best to hurt them and rid them off this earth.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Ahsoka does die it's already been confirmed. Anakin would of felt the death of every clone he lead and as a result his heart would get hurt just that little bit more.


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It's called Revenge. If someone killed my mother I'd try my best to hurt them and rid them off this earth.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Ahsoka does die it's already been confirmed. Anakin would of felt the death of every clone he lead and as a result his heart would get hurt just that little bit more.


Sidious was responsible for the death of many of his troops since Sidious started the war in the first place. I also wouldn't be surprised if Sidious engineered Shimi's death and Ahsoka's as well. And yet Anakin serves him?


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