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Was Darth Maul a sociopath?

Do you think he was? What would have happened if the jedi found him first? I don't think he was a sociopath,

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A difficult word to classify people as. It's not very straight forward. The traits of psychopathy from a 1941 book called The Mask of Sanity:

1.) Superficial charm and good "intelligence"
2.) Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3.) Absence of "nervousness" or psychoneurotic manifestations
4.) Unreliability
5.) Untruthfulness and insincerity
6.) Lack of remorse and shame
7.) Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
8.) Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
9.) Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
10.) General poverty in major affective reactions
11.) Specific loss of insight
12.) Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
13.) Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without
14.) Suicide threats rarely carried out
15.) Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
16.) Failure to follow any life plan.


I don't know much about Maul, so does he fit many of those?


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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
A difficult word to classify people as. It's not very straight forward. The traits of psychopathy from a 1941 book called The Mask of Sanity:

1.) Superficial charm and good "intelligence"
2.) Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3.) Absence of "nervousness" or psychoneurotic manifestations
4.) Unreliability
5.) Untruthfulness and insincerity
6.) Lack of remorse and shame
7.) Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
8.) Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
9.) Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
10.) General poverty in major affective reactions
11.) Specific loss of insight
12.) Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
13.) Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without
14.) Suicide threats rarely carried out
15.) Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
16.) Failure to follow any life plan.


I don't know much about Maul, so does he fit many of those?

not really


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Answers that.


Now how many does Anakin fit?


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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Answers that.


Now how many does Anakin fit?
didn't maul care about his brother? He seemed to look really sad and angry and surprised when he saw sidious kill him,

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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
A difficult word to classify people as. It's not very straight forward. The traits of psychopathy from a 1941 book called The Mask of Sanity:

1.) Superficial charm and good "intelligence"
2.) Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3.) Absence of "nervousness" or psychoneurotic manifestations
4.) Unreliability
5.) Untruthfulness and insincerity
6.) Lack of remorse and shame
7.) Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
8.) Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
9.) Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
10.) General poverty in major affective reactions
11.) Specific loss of insight
12.) Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
13.) Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without
14.) Suicide threats rarely carried out
15.) Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
16.) Failure to follow any life plan.


Uh, oh...

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didn't maul care about his brother? He seemed to look really sad and angry and surprised when he saw sidious kill him,
Iunno.


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He was raised by a complete sociopath, so his personality was influenced by those traits.

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Sociopath? Not really. Psychopath? Most definitely.


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Difference?


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Psychopath:
a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior.

Sociopath:
a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.


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I always thought sociopath was an umbrella title, and a psychopath was a sociopath that was able to act "normal" when he/she needed to. A sociopath was unable or unwilling to hide it.

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
Psychopath:
a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior.

Sociopath:
a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
Do you have a source for that? Those sound like two symptoms of the same condition that have been arbitrarily separated. Sociopathy is often used to either avoid the stigma of the 'psycho' prefix, or to describe the disorder when it's socially imparted or gained through experience. But otherwise their typically synonyms.


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quote:
1.) Superficial charm and good "intelligence"


Dunno about how "charming" Maul can be, but he's very intelligent.

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2.) Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking


What?


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3.) Absence of "nervousness" or psychoneurotic manifestations


Nah, Maul has been shown as nervous and fearful.


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4.) Unreliability


Depends on who he's dealing with.


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5.) Untruthfulness and insincerity


Definitely fits here.


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6.) Lack of remorse and shame


Definitely fits here.

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7.) Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior


He's definitely got adequate motivation for it...


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8.) Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience


Maul definitely learns.

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9.) Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love


Maul fits this bill, but he does seem to have some feelings for his brother.

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10.) General poverty in major affective reactions


Nope, doesn't fit.

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11.) Specific loss of insight


Maul doesn't have this.

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12.) Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations


I guess yeah, he was always the silent type.

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13.) Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without


What?

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14.) Suicide threats rarely carried out


No.

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15.) Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated


Sorry, haven't been doing my research on where Maul's dick has been. Oh wait, it's in some trash dump.

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16.) Failure to follow any life plan.


Maul is all about life plans lol.


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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
A difficult word to classify people as. It's not very straight forward. The traits of psychopathy from a 1941 book called The Mask of Sanity:

1.) Superficial charm and good "intelligence"
2.) Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3.) Absence of "nervousness" or psychoneurotic manifestations
4.) Unreliability
5.) Untruthfulness and insincerity
6.) Lack of remorse and shame
7.) Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
8.) Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
9.) Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
10.) General poverty in major affective reactions
11.) Specific loss of insight
12.) Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
13.) Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without
14.) Suicide threats rarely carried out
15.) Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
16.) Failure to follow any life plan.


I don't know much about Maul, so does he fit many of those?


Ummm, I fit a lot of those catagories.....am I a sociopath?


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Also I think about every sith to ever exist was a sociopath to an extent.

Lets see
Malgus entered rage fuelled bloodlusting frenzies on a regular basis and he murdered his own girlfriend

Bane held a mans child over a large pot of boiling stew right after murdering an entire family of inocents, to his credit he was doing it to stay alive but he has commited mass murder on multiple occasions

Oh heres a good onesmile
Plageuis kept a living sentient being as a science experiment where he killed it multiple times just to revive it and kill it again.

And Darth Vader/Anakin commited genocide....a lot. Im almost convinced it was his pass time.

So yea, I think its a safe bet to say there sociopaths.


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Also I think about every sith to ever exist was a sociopath to an extent.

Lets see
Malgus entered rage fuelled bloodlusting frenzies on a regular basis and he murdered his own girlfriend

Bane held a mans child over a large pot of boiling stew right after murdering an entire family of inocents, to his credit he was doing it to stay alive but he has commited mass murder on multiple occasions

Oh heres a good onesmile
Plageuis kept a living sentient being as a science experiment where he killed it multiple times just to revive it and kill it again.

And Darth Vader/Anakin commited genocide....a lot. Im almost convinced it was his pass time.

So yea, I think its a safe bet to say there sociopaths.
anakin was in no way a sociopath, he did all the bad guy stuff just to save padme's life plus he seems to care a lot about his padawan ahsoka

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Ummm, I fit a lot of those catagories.....am I a sociopath?
No, you're an edgy person on the internet pretending to be one.


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im edgy? big grin


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Do you have a source for that? Those sound like two symptoms of the same condition that have been arbitrarily separated. Sociopathy is often used to either avoid the stigma of the 'psycho' prefix, or to describe the disorder when it's socially imparted or gained through experience. But otherwise their typically synonyms.


Google.com definition actually. They are similar but I think the overly violent tendencies is what separates them. In other words the orgasmic pleasure Maul gets from watching Satine die and Kenobi's anguish from it is...well psycho.


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