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Total Warrior
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Other force users compares to Rotj Sidious

If RotJ Sidious is a 100 and RotJ Vader is a 80, where would you place the following force users:
1) Yoda
2)Vitiate
3)RotS Anakin
4)Dooku
5)DD Vos
6)Exar Kun
7)Obi wan Kenobi

I'm just curious to see the gap you have between these guys

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Valkorion = 150
Yoda = 90
Exar Kun = 85
Anakin Skywalker (Episode III) = 60
Count Dooku = 45
Quinlan Vos = 45
Obi-Wan Kenobi = 40

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Nephthys
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In what terms? I'mma guess power.

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Sinious
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Re: Other force users compares to Rotj Sidious

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If RotJ Sidious is a 100 and RotJ Vader is a 80

Well, the mathematical relation between Sidious and Vader doesn't even make sense. I mean does this suggest that someone who is only a quarter times as powerful as Vader is enough support for Vader to have a chance to overthrow Sidious? I highly doubt it.

But if this suggests that when measuring strength in the force, numbers function differently, then an increase from 80 to 100 is massive and people should number the others accordingly.

I would suggest ignoring the 80/100 relation between Vader and Sidious to make this thread more interesting.

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Total Warrior
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In what terms?

both saber skill and force power

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Well, the mathematical relation between Sidious and Vader doesn't even make sense. I mean does this suggest that someone who is only a quarter times as powerful as Vader is enough support for Vader to have a chance to overthrow Sidious? I highly doubt it.

But if this suggests that when measuring strength in the force, numbers function differently, then an increase from 80 to 100 is massive and people should number the others accordingly.

I would suggest ignoring the 80/100 relation between Vader and Sidious to make this thread more interesting.

Yeah it doesn't really work that way, as Palpatine would pwn anyone who possessed a meager 20% of his power. erm

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Yoda is 110.

Windu shouldn't be missed out as he's likely in the 90-95 region.

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I mean does this suggest that someone who is only a quarter times as powerful as Vader is enough support for Vader to have a chance to overthrow Sidious?

Well obviously not because that person would get blitz. Give Vader that extra formidability/power though and Sidious would be in trouble. Serious trouble.

But I agree with you to ignore the 100/80 thing. Because I would actually argue Vader is closer to Sidious than that stick out tongue

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both saber skill and force power

I don't think those were the terms George was using.

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Total Warrior
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Well, the mathematical relation between Sidious and Vader doesn't even make sense. I mean does this suggest that someone who is only a quarter times as powerful as Vader is enough support for Vader to have a chance to overthrow Sidious? I highly doubt it.

But if this suggests that when measuring strength in the force, numbers function differently, then an increase from 80 to 100 is massive and people should number the others accordingly.

I would suggest ignoring the 80/100 relation between Vader and Sidious to make this thread more interesting.

ok, then let's ignore that quote

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Yeah it doesn't really work that way, as Palpatine would pwn anyone who possessed a meager 20% of his power.

Still, it doesn't make much sense.

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Well obviously not because that person would get blitz. Give Vader that extra formidability/power though and Sidious would be in trouble. Serious trouble.

But I agree with you to ignore the 100/80 thing. Because I would actually argue Vader is closer to Sidious than that

I doubt it.

LOL

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Still, it doesn't make much sense.

Well tbh there is no concrete source on just how much a threat Vader was to Palpatine.

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I doubt it.

LOL

Still waiting for some actual reasons.

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Still waiting for some actual reasons.

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Well tbh there is no concrete source on just how much a threat Vader was to Palpatine.

Given how easily he can penetrate Vader's mind, how easily he can take him out with lightning, how easily he can defeat Galen(who is very much comparable to Vader) my skepticism is justified.

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>implying that only a 20% power gap wouldn't be enough for that
>implying that use Vader's suit limitations is a measure of power
>implying Peak Vader couldn't "easily," because apparently causing a massive explosion is easy, defeat Marek

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Vader: Power - 80% Sabers - 150%
Yoda: Power - 95% Sabers - 110%
Valkoriate: Power - 125% Sabers - 2%
Bane: Baldness - 2000% Sexiness - 120%

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>implying that only a 20% power gap wouldn't be enough for that

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But if this suggests that when measuring strength in the force, numbers function differently, then an increase from 80 to 100 is massive and people should number the others accordingly.

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>implying that use Vader's suit limitations is a measure of power

stfu.

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>implying Peak Vader couldn't "easily," because apparently causing a massive explosion is easy, defeat Marek

He can't easily defeat galen lol.

And yeah, given how Sidious took him out with a burst of lightning. thumb up

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stfu.

He can't easily defeat galen lol.

Sure he can. He's more powerful, more skilled, more intelligent, and less impulsive. And given the direction DP stated the TFU franchise was going in, I'm fine with concluding Vader is far above Marek.