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Jaggarath
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Versus Series Darth Maul (TCW) VS Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus VS Darth Vader


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1+ hour long video by Evannova? Nope.

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Wow, where Jensaarai1 shits on Zannah in every video, Evannova goes out of his way to shit on Bane.

And apparently Maul is a tactical retard and while in blade skill he's on par with Obi-Wan, Koon, and Shaak Ti, apparently in overall martial combat he is only comparable with Fisto, Mundi, and Jinn.

So far it's a great video thumb up


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LOL @ JENSAARAI1 CAMEO


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five hour video wtf lol


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Originally posted by Emperordmb
Wow, where Jensaarai1 shits on Zannah in every video, Evannova goes out of his way to shit on Bane.


How many people don't shit on Bane, iyo?

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
LOL @ JENSAARAI1 CAMEO



No way! Must watch!

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Well, watched the entire thing. Pretty much agree with everything he and Jensaarai had to say. I am a Dooku fanboy and feel that he would have a winning chance if he (being perfect at Makashi big grin) quickly exploited a weakness in Vader before being beaten down.


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The [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Vader>Dooku>Maul conclusion is the correct one, however in reaching that conclusion he [SPOILER - highlight to read]: severely underrates Maul, putting him a tier beneath Obi-Wan, Shaak Ti, and Plo Koon in martial ability, and putting him beneath the majority of the Jedi council in control of the force and raw power in the force and for some reason [SPOILER - highlight to read]: he decides to randomly shit on Bane in the middle of the video with a criticism that doesn't even make sense. He also [SPOILER - highlight to read]: claims that Dooku can't handle a prolonged engagement or a committed offensive or defensive.

His conclusion is correct, but the way he gets there and justifies it is riddled with flaws.


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lol "can't handle prolonged combat"


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It's Evannova, I didn't expect much differently.


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1:10:18

Does anyone have a scan for that Vader feat there?


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Darth Vader > Dooku > Darth Maul


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He basically spent 1 hour+ on a video everyone already knew the answer to. Well made yea, but smart to do, I personally don't think so, but it kept me entertained.


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Jaggarath
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inb4 chilled's "this video was wonderful! Incredibly insightful for my fan fictions no one reads besides that dead cat behind the alley way!"


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Originally posted by Agusto Pinochet
five hour video wtf lol


What?

It's one hour and twenty four minutes, not even close to five hours. Do you need your eyes checked or something?


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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He basically spent 1 hour+ on a video everyone already knew the answer to.


The answer's not important. What matters is how his observations/reasoning can help inspire ideas on how to write for similar characters.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
but it kept me entertained.


Glad we agree on that.

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Originally posted by Kurk
I am a Dooku fanboy and feel that he would have a winning chance if he (being perfect at Makashi big grin) quickly exploited a weakness in Vader before being beaten down.


He'd have a chance, sure. Nobody always wins 100%. The video just determines the most likely winner.

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Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
lol "can't handle prolonged combat"


He can't. Dooku himself notes this in the ROTS novel.

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Wow, where Jensaarai1 shits on Zannah in every video,


Not always. In one he commented on how a bunch of people practically worship Zannah, a bunch think she's garbage and both are wrong. He further adds that Zannah has her strengths and weaknesses same as everyone else. If he just bashed her incessantly then you'd have a point, but he doesn't.

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And apparently Maul is a tactical retard


He is. Remember this is TCW Maul. When in that did he ever display the kind of clever tactics he used against Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan? Never. EvanNova95 specifically pointed out the difference.

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Incredibly insightful for my fan fictions no one reads besides that dead cat behind the alley way!"


Don't care. They're my babies and I love them.

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Not always. In one he commented on how a bunch of people practically worship Zannah, a bunch think she's garbage and both are wrong. He further adds that Zannah has her strengths and weaknesses same as everyone else. If he just bashed her incessantly then you'd have a point, but he doesn't.

He brings her up randomly in videos to talk about how much he thinks her tactics fighting style and illusions suck. If he just did this in videos that involve Zannah that would be justifiable, but he does it in videos that have nothing to do with her.

And he thinks Tholme dances circles around her, that's some bullshit right there and is honestly the worst versus video verdict in my opinion.

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He is. Remember this is TCW Maul. When in that did he ever display the kind of clever tactics he used against Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan? Never. EvanNova95 specifically pointed out the difference.

When he captured Obi-Wan, when he controlled the ensuing fight with dun moch, when he threw his lightsaber knowing one of the Jedi would dodge it so it'd impale the other, when he found a group of natives turned them into a ****ing army and used them to rescue his brother, and when he stopped Obi-Wan from escaping Mandalore. Admittedly not as well when he fought Sidious, but I mean shit, you can't be that far beneath Sidious in power and actually expect to exert any degree of control over that fight.


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He brings her up randomly in videos to talk about how much he thinks her tactics fighting style and illusions suck. If he just did this in videos that involve Zannah that would be justifiable, but he does it in videos that have nothing to do with her.


Fair comment although, as I said, at least he does give Zannah some credit. He's always acknowledged she has her strengths. That's more than some people do.

Also he does have a point that she is over-specialised. I don't see how you can disagree with him there. Having a strong defence is important of course, but in certain circumstances you don't always have time to wait for an opponent to tire himself out.

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And he thinks Tholme dances circles around her, that's some bullshit right there and is honestly the worst versus video verdict in my opinion.


I have to admit even I found that one dubious.

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When he captured Obi-Wan...

when he found a group of natives turned them into a ****ing army and used them to rescue his brother, and when he stopped Obi-Wan from escaping Mandalore.


None of those are examples of lightsabre combat. Evan's point was that TCW Maul was overall less tactical in lightsabre combat specifically, not in general.

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when he controlled the ensuing fight with dun moch,


Using taunts to upset/anger a foe is hardly amazing tactics.

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when he threw his lightsaber knowing one of the Jedi would dodge it so it'd impale the other


That is something but it's still less than what he pulled off in TPM.

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Admittedly not as well when he fought Sidious, but I mean shit, you can't be that far beneath Sidious in power and actually expect to exert any degree of control over that fight.


True.

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You can't even help yourself at this point, can you?
You just conceded with this blatant quote altering.


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