slayne
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How bad of a combatant is Valkorion?
Exactly how bad is the Immortal Emperor in a combat situation?
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May 6th, 2017 08:45 PM
Kurk
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He'd lose a bar fight
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May 6th, 2017 09:00 PM
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May 6th, 2017 09:23 PM
darthbane77
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He's not a bad combatant. Being taken off guard isn't grounds for being a poor combatant.
May 6th, 2017 09:53 PM
Beniboybling
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kurk
He'd lose a bar fight
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May 6th, 2017 10:22 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthbane77
He's not a bad combatant. Being taken off guard isn't grounds for being a poor combatant.
It is when you start ignoring people that you know for a fact are your enemies and have lethal weapons, and just start giving up your back to them.
May 7th, 2017 01:20 AM
S_W_LeGenD
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Re: How bad of a combatant is Valkorion?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by slayne
Exactly how bad is the Immortal Emperor in a combat situation?
Had a lengthy conversation with member SunRazer about this matter. Here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=7
To be honest, he is not a bad fighter. He is officially credited for being a brilliant tactician.
However, he could afford to be a bit careless in a combat situation because he could cheat death (when the Outlander impaled his avatar, he infiltrated the mind of his opponent and laughed while doing so). He did not seek formal training in Jedi dueling arts either so that is a minus as well.
May 7th, 2017 01:22 PM
S_W_LeGenD
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthbane77
He's not a bad combatant. Being taken off guard isn't grounds for being a poor combatant.
Virtually anybody can be caught off-guard in the heat of a struggle.
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May 7th, 2017 01:23 PM
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But it takes a special kind of person to do so consistently.
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S_W_LeGenD
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Beniboybling
But it takes a special kind of person to do so consistently.
True.
1. Darth Vader managed to grab Palpatine from behind and throw him into a shaft.
2. Han Solo managed to shoot Palpatine from behind, disabling his last clone.
Seems like Palpatine has a knack of getting knocked off from behind.
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The only truly embarrassing moment for Tenebrae in a fight is when he got too close to Hero of Tython to realize that the latter might score a hit on him. Perhaps, he was really frustrated during this time due to disruption of his ritual and consequent loss of power. However, people have picked this single example and blown it out of proportion.
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May 7th, 2017 01:32 PM
Beniboybling
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
True.
1. Darth Vader managed to grab Palpatine from behind and throw him into a shaft.
Being stabbed in the back by someone you believed to be completely under your control isn't the same as being stabbed in the back by someone trying to kill you.
quote: 2. Han Solo managed to shoot Palpatine from behind, disabling his last clone.
Because he was too weak to defend himself yeah.
quote: The only truly embarrassing moment for Tenebrae in a fight is when he got too close to Hero of Tython to realize that the latter might score a hit on him. Perhaps, he was really frustrated during this time due to disruption of his ritual and consequent loss of power. However, people have picked this single example and blown it out of proportion.
Do better.
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May 7th, 2017 04:16 PM
darthbane77
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Virtually anybody can be caught off-guard in the heat of a struggle. Pretty much. Like you said, even Palpatine was taken off guard on a couple occasions, as was Maul in TPM, among others.
May 7th, 2017 07:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Beniboybling
Being stabbed in the back by someone you believed to be completely under your control isn't the same as being stabbed in the back by someone trying to kill you.
Because he was too weak to defend himself yeah.
Do better.
How about when Savage ran into him like a freight train?
May 7th, 2017 07:14 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Unbowed
How about when Savage ran into him like a freight train?
And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?
Face it TORCvnts. Valkorion is shit.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
2. Han Solo managed to shoot Palpatine from behind, disabling his last clone
'cept he meant to die so he could Grand Theft Anakin.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?
Face it TORCvnts. Valkorion is shit.
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May 8th, 2017 06:49 PM
UCanShootMyNova
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?
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May 8th, 2017 11:34 PM
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That scene where he charges at HOT while using force lightning and HOT blocking it then slicing through him was pretty stupid.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?
What's your point, dickhead? How does that negate the fact that he was taken by surprise?
May 9th, 2017 08:04 AM
Beniboybling
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Unbowed
How about when Savage ran into him like a freight train?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?
Face it TORCvnts. Valkorion is shit.
Some freight train.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Unbowed
What's your point, dickhead? How does that negate the fact that he was taken by surprise?
He wasn't.
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If Valky tried harder, he would handily eviscerate most in combat, if all his power hype and his accolades are actually true.
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