Evolution Tournament Results (Biggest Fighting Game Tournament in the USA)
I'm posting this here to make an awareness for Fighting Gamers here that their is still great fighting game competition. Evolution is arguably the biggest Fighting Tournament in the USA, drawing Top Players from all over the World to come and play, for example, Europe, S. Korea, Japan, etc, etc.
So if you have never heard of Evolution Tournament, then listen here now, and see the results of Today's Win's and Losses from players competing in well known fighting games.
So let me start by saying, crazy, crazy Evolution Tournament, I came there to watch all the hype, and to kick it and see the top players from around the world. This was one of the best Evolution Tournaments yet, and some of the match ups where simply crazy to watch, Super Turbo maybe OLD, but that game proved that it was one of the most strategical fighting games ever created, the sheer spacing, zoning, reversals, etc, etc in that game was spectacular to watch and see.
A heavy mention to John Choi completely and utterly represented the USA, by defeating some of Japan's best players in Capcom vs Snk 2 and Super Street Fighter II Turbo. In CvsS2, he defeated BAS, arguably Japan's BEST CvsS2 player with C-Groove Ken/Cammy/SagatR2, and then he went through Three of Japanese best in ST to take the 1st place crown. Mad, Mad Props, and the whole crowd went completely crazy when Choi won, as well as Choi himself, lolz.
Justin Wong winning Marvel vs. Capcom 2, now his 6th Time as Champion at Evolution does not come as a surprise to me at all, although Yipes wasn't there, the guy who dethroned Wong at least years Evolution tournament in MvC2.
In SSBB, Ken was running strong with Marth, and beasting everyone, however in the finals, he lost to CPU, but I forgot who CPU won with, since I wasn't paying attention to SSBB later on (sorry man, this game to me just isn't as cool as SSBM)...however, anyhow, let me post up the Tournament Results from the Fighting Games represented on here, and take note that each fighting game is bolded and highlighted in a different color so people don't get them mixed up...
CvS2 - Top 8
Winners:
John Choi (C-Ken/Cammy/Sagat) vs. BAS (A-Vega/Bison/Blanka) - Choi beats BAS 2-0
Ricky Ortiz (A-Vega/Sakura/Blanka) vs. Tokido (A-Vega/Blanka/Bison) - Ricky beats Tokido 2-0
John Choi vs. Ricky Ortiz - Choi beats Ricky 2-1
Losers:
Combofiend (K-Ken/Rolento/Cammy) vs. Gene Wong (A-Vega/Bison/Blanka) - Gene Wong beats Combofiend 2-1
Buktooth (N-Iori/Morrigan/Hibiki) vs. Justin Wong (C-Vega/Cammy/Sagat) - Justin beats Buktooth 2-1
Gene Wong vs. BAS - BAS beats Gene Wong 2-0
Justin Wong vs. Tokido - Justin Wong beats Tokido 2-0
Justin Wong vs. BAS - BAS beats Justin Wong 2-1
BAS vs. Ricky Ortiz - BAS beats Ricky Ortiz 2-1
Grand Finals:
John Choi vs. BAS - BAS wins first set 2-0, but Choi takes next set 2-0.
John Choi wins!
Final Results:
1st - John Choi
2nd - BAS
3rd - Ricky Ortiz
4th - Justin Wong
5th - Tokido/Gene Wong
7th - Combofiend/Buktooth
John Choi takes 1st Place in CvS2, and he does it using C-Groove, because A-Groove has been so completely dominant in CvS2 for so long, I'm really, happy for Choi, Congratulations man, you where crazy when you won, lol!
[B]Tekken DR - Top 8
Winners:
Gandido (Devil Jin) vs. Lingmassacre (Xiaoyu)- Gandido beats Lingmassacre 2-1
Ryan Hart (Kazuya) vs. KOR (Ganryu) - Ryan Hart beats KOR 2-1
Gandido vs. Ryan Hart - Ryan Hart beats Gandido (score?)
Losers:
Owen (King) vs. Rip (Law) - Owen beats Rip 2-1
Som (?) vs. Cano (Eddy) - Cano beats Som 2-0
Owen vs. Lingmassacre - Owen beats Lingmassacre 2-1
KOR vs. Cano - Cano beats KOR 2-0
Owen vs. Cano - Cano beats Owen (score?)
Cano vs. Gandido - Gandido beats Cano (score?)
Grand Finals:
Gandido vs. Ryan Hart - Ryan Hart beats Gandido 3-2
Edit: Crazy drama involving technical failure in first set with match at 2-2 (finals is 3/5), final round, Gandido up on life. They replay the last game, with Ryan Hart winning 3 straight rounds.
Tokido (Chun) vs. Amir (Chun) - Amir beats Tokido 2-0
JR Rodriguez (Akuma) vs. Justin Wong (Chun) - Justin beats JR 2-1
Amir vs. Justin Wong - Justin Wong beats Amir 2-0
Losers:
Fubarduck (Chun) vs. Ryan Hart (Yun/Ken) - Fubarduck beats Ryan Hart 2-1
Nuki (Chun) vs. Mike Watson (Ken) - Nuki beats Mike Watson 2-0
Tokido vs. Fubarduck - Tokido beats Fubarduck 2-0
Nuki vs. JR Rodriguez - Nuki beats JR 2-0
Tokido vs. Nuki - Nuki beats Tokido 2-1
Amir vs. Nuki - Nuki beats Amir 2-0
Grand Finals:
Justin Wong vs. Nuki - Nuki wins first set 3-0, then wins 2nd set 3-2
Nuki wins!
Final Results:
1st - Nuki
2nd - Justin Wong
3rd - Amir
4th - Tokido
5th - JR/Fubarduck
7th - Watson/Ryan Hart
This was crazy, because HAD Justin Wong of kept being aggressive with his Chunli against Nuki, he would have taken the 1st place spot, however he went back to Turtle Wong Li and that imo ultimately made him take 2nd, however I'm happy to see such a strong showing here for 3S by the US, considering last year, most of the top 5 in 3S was dominated by Japanese players.
Only boring part was that 3S had 5...remember, FIVE Chunli's placing in the Top 8 that's crazy, in fact, that Top 3 finishers in 3S where all Chunli players, lolz
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Top 8
Winners:
Ken vs. Darwin - Ken beats Darwin
Hall vs. CPU - CPU beats Hall
Ken vs. CPU - CPU beats Ken
Losers:
Bardull vs. Peapo - Peapo beats Bardull
SK97 vs. WDRM - SK92 beats WDRM
SK97 vs. Darwin - SK97 beats Darwin
Peapo vs. Hall - Hall beats Peapo
SK97 vs. Hall - Hall beats SK97
Ken vs. Hall - Ken beats Hall
Grand Finals:
Ken vs. CPU - CPU beats Ken
CPU wins!
Final Results:
1st - CPU
2nd - Ken
3rd - Hall
4th - SK97
5th - Darwin/Peapo
7th - WDRM/Bardull
CPU knocks out Ken for 1st place, however I won't say much from this just yet, since imo, I still consider Ken the best player coming out of SSBM in the world. Not only that, to beast with Marth that badly is just simply amazing, mad props to the people who represented for Brawl
Nuki (Chun) vs. Sirlin (a bunch of characters) - Nuki beats Sirlin 2-0
Alex Valle (Shotos) vs. Kusumondo (Honda) - Valle beats Kusumondo 2-0
Nuki vs. Alex Valle - Nuki beats Valle 2-0
Losers:
Tokido (Claw) vs. Justin Wong (Claw/O.Sagat?) - Tokido beats Justin 2-1
Shirts (Sim) vs. John Choi (Shotos/O.Sagat) - John Choi beats Shirts 2-0
Tokido vs. Sirlin - Tokido beats Sirlin 2-0
Choi vs. Kusumondo - Choi beats Kusumondo 2-0
Tokido vs. Choi - Choi beats Tokido 2-1
Choi vs. Valle - Choi beats Valle 2-0
Grand Finals:
Nuki vs. Choi - Choi wins first set 3-1, then wins second set 3-2
John Choi wins ST!
Final Results:
1st - John Choi
2nd - Nuki
3rd - Alex Valle
4th - Tokido
5th - Kusumondo/Sirlin
7th - Justin Wong/Shirts
John Choi for President Please!
John Choi defeated Kusumondo, then Tokido who was last years Evolution ST winner, then he went on to beat out Nuki in the Finals for 1st Place...just simply WOW. John Choi used my main man, ST. Ryu throughout the entire tournament, then he switched over to O. Sagat in the final round to guarantee his victory.
This was imo, the most exciting tournament to watch other then the CvS2 finals with Choi vs Bas!
MvC2 - Top 8
Winners:
Chunksta vs. Toan aka totaltoanage - Chunk beats Toan 2-0
Justin Wong vs. Wes aka Blockable Laser - Justin beats Wes 2-0
Chunksta vs. Justin Wong - Chunksta beats Justin Wong 2-1
Losers:
Crizzle vs. MegamanDS - Crizzle beats MegamanDS 2-0
Smoothviper vs. Fanatiq - Smoothviper beats Fanatiq 2-1
Toan vs. Crizzle - Crizzle beats Toan 2-0
Wes vs. Smoothviper - Smoothviper beats Wes 2-1
Smoothviper vs. Crizzle - Smoothviper beats Crizzle 2-0
Smoothviper vs. Justin Wong - Justin Wong beats Smoothviper 2-0
Grand Finals:
Chunksta vs. Justin Wong - Justin Wong wins first set 3-0, second set 3-1
Justin Wong wins Marvel for the 6th time in Evo history!
Why am I not surprised, Justin Wong takes 1st place yet again for MvC2. This is 6th time in Evolution Tournament History he has done this in MvC2.
This game is just simply amazing to watch at the highest lvls, I tell anyone who has not seen this first hand, you are completely missing out.
Justin Wong in the Finals when he adapted to Chunksta and suddenly decided to go to Super Saiyan Mode completely put Chunks in his place.
JWong is on a completely different level when it comes to MvC2, only guy in my eyes to be on par with him is Yipes, but sadly he couldn't make it to MvC2.
Team Santhrax was used, ALOT, which I'm not surprised, since that team is still overall the best in MvC2 (In case people don't know who's in Team Santhrax, it's Sentinel/Storm/Capt. Commando)
Congratulations Wong, you've shown all of us how distant we are from being on your lvl in MvC2, keep up the beast, and lets see if it will be 7th Time Champion at next years Evolution Tournament
Street Fighter 4 8-Man Invitational Tourney Results
1st - Kindevu (Rufus)
2nd - Justin Wong (Abel)
3rd - John Choi and Nuki
Lol, crazy game, although I wouldn't take this too seriously, since almost everyone had no experience with SF:IV, but it was great no matter.
I finally got to try SF:IV for the first time, but I'll talk about that in the SF:IV thread not here.
Guilty Gear AC Singles Side Tourney Results:
1st - Elvenshadow (Faust)
2nd - Blacksnake (Venom)
3rd - Nerina (Baiken)
4th - Hellmonkey (Baiken)
5th - Harbinger (Millia)
5th - Frank the Tank (May)
Apparently there were 83 (!) total entrants, and only 3 TV's to run the entire tourney on.
Guilty Gear AC Teams Side Tourney Results:
1st - Team Midwest (Elvenshadow/Blacksnake/AKA)
2nd - Team Japan (Miu/Nerina/Hellmonkey)
3rd - Team Latif & Friends (Latif/Digital Watches/Hellsap)
4th - Team Mike Z (Mike Z/Pulsr/Shtkn)
A total of 20 teams entered.
My Thoughts: Great Evolution Turn Out, they had alot of stuff for you to try out, I even got to play Tatsunoko vs Capcom here, but there was 209348230948 people who also wanted to play, so you got to play once, and ended watching for the rest of the day, lolz.
I was busy doing other things as well, as meeting old peeps that I hadn't seen for a long time. Yeah, I didn't enter in any fighting game's to compete, because I've been retired from competitive for years now, I only came to represent for fellow fighting gamers.
This was a spectacular Evolution, mad props to everyone who participated in the competitions.
Keep the Fighting Game Competitive Community Alive, Evolution is one of those reasons!
Although, I would have liked to know who used what characters in brawl, and perhaps some personal commentary on accent core would have been cool as well
I love these Evo Tournaments! Mostly the street Fighter division. I see Justin Wong has not retired yet but he still kicks ass. I wonder who this Nuki guy is.
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Seriously, the only games I was really into seeing was CvS2, 3S, MvC2 and especially ST.
The rest I kind of looked here and there, or else left to go and do other misc things that interested me, lolz. However I am glad to see that some people took interest in this though.
The last time I truly paid attention to GG was during the days of Sol and his Dustloop madness, lolz, those where the fun days, lolz.
My only beef with this years Evo, was that guys like Sanford, Yipes, etc etc didn't show up for MvC2, I was hoping to see that, because you knew that it would get serious, and Plus, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 has the best and greatest drama out of any fighting game at Evo.
You either usually see alot of trash talking between players or something like that, hahahahaha, I miss seeing alot of that.
Man, Choi Boy winning 2 tournaments still amazes me, had Justin of taking 3S, it would have been a complete US domination this year. I'm hoping Choi goes for ST at SBO, and that Justin plays an aggressive Chunli for SBO, because ever since he went offensive, his Chunli has done alot better.
I agree up to a point.. the retarded tripping for no reason, and how the cartoony characters always get the insta-attack advantage is a serious put off... but it does have a much deeper engine than people want to realise... its all a matter of if sakurai makes the next one.. if he takes the balancing serious, he could have a real tourney-worthy fighter on his hands
IMO, not only all that above but the fact that there are only a few attack buttons and all the moves are so easy to do really makes it hard for me to take the game seriously.
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Evolution is already insane, infact, I would argue that Evolution has far more diversity of International players then SBO. SBO is mainly japanese players, with only a small opening for international players, I forgot the reason, but imo, having more diversity of players from around the world is better.
Evolution, no matter the amount of entries, they will except any participants, and take 3S for example, I believe in 2005, it had a huge entry boost, over 100+ entries for that game alone, something that you had clearly not seen since the powerhouse days of Street Fighter II back in the 90's when that was the norm. However SBO within it's country itself is more recognized, simply because of cultural reasons.
If your playing fighting games in Japan on a competitive lvl, your considered awesome, however if your playing fighting games in the US, your considered a nerd. There are two very big differences in how we view gamers as a whole in our cultures. To me, Evolution is pretty big, and really only lacks one big thing "Huge Company Support", which is one of the biggest Achilles heels for this tournament, or most fighting game tournaments I should say (Unless your playing the DoA Series...gah), and with that, they don't have the mass media to showcase itself.
However, Evolution has come a long, long way, I guarantee, that 90% of the new wave of SFIII players did not pick up 3S until they saw what took place at Evolution 2004 with Daigo vs Justin, where he did a full parry ending it with a combo to win that round. I'm confident, almost all of you on here have seen that already, and I'm also sure many of you have seen J. Wong's comeback victory from last year in MvC2, where he had only Cyclops left up against Yipes full complete MSP Team, yet he did a come from behind victory, and anyone who knows MvC2, that is AMAZING, making it 50x more epic then what took place at Evo2k4 with Daigo.
In case, some of you "still" have not seen it yet...here's Daigo's Comeback from Evolution 2004 in 3rdStrike...
Here's the video of Justin Wong's Cyclops comeback from Yipes FULL MSP (Yipes has the best Magneto/Storm/Psylocke in the entire World period), this is way more epic then even Daigo's comeback, because Wong couldn't rely upon a "Defensive Option" instead everything had to be either reversed with huge risk, or else punished on reaction...crazy win of this set.
As for a game like SSB, well, SSBM was actually highly competitive, yeah, when you got really good in the game, the Space Animals, Shiek, Marth pretty much took everyone out convincingly with Peach doing strong.
However, after SSBB was release with the creator specifically removing alot of the aspects that made SSBM very competitive (Shuffling, Wavedash to name a few), it just really got me annoyed by it. You can obviously play it competitively, there is no doubt about it, but SSBB just isn't as epic as it's SSBM counterpart was. However, SSBB has a good amount of players playing this game competitively, which is the #1 most important thing. Does it have a solid community, and will it represent itself, SSBM over the years has proven that, and to me, any fighting game regardless of how it may look, if you can pit 1 vs 1 and get it to become dramatic, with a solid group of competitors, then I see no reason not to let it in.
Soul Calibur wasn't shown up in here, simply because SC3 died nearly almost as fast it came into the scene.
However, expect ALOT for next year, because games like Tekken 6, Soul Calibur 4, TvC (hopefully), and especially Street Fighter : IV will making the Evolution roster. We could be seeing some pretty big entries for those, especially SF:IV.
Yeah, I'd like to believe that EVO is as epic as SBO, however one thing is for sure, EVO has far greater drama/feuds/hype between players then SBO does, lolz.
Last edited by JustFrame on Aug 12th, 2008 at 03:26 AM
Sengoku Basara has one huge fatal flaw...not enough competitors to that game for it. That is the biggest problem with that game, and Evo only wants games in which will draw either solid to very high number of players.
One year, they did in fact experiment with numerous fighting games, however alot of them, had almost no shows for them, DoA was one of those games in which not even 20 players made the list, with some people joining in DoA at that day just for kicks.
MK vs DC would really depend upon one thing, and again, that will be competition, will there be alot for it, or will there be almost none? The only two MK games that come into my head that had a strong following of competitive players was UMK3, and without a doubt, MKII had probably the strongest following for competition at it's height. However, beyond that, I haven't seen any MK games really making it to the huge limelight of heavy competition.
I doubt that MK vs DC would make it into Evolution, simply because their most likely will be lack of competition, and a community to really back it up, that'll probably be it's biggest flaw. However, if it had a massive following, with alot of competitive players, then who knows, "maybe", however doubtful in my eyes.
As I said though, expect to see Tekken 6, TvC, SC4, and SF:IV gain huge momentum for next year. I am 100% confident that SF:IV will be the fighting game to headline as the grand daddy of them all at Evolution 2009, bet it!
It only seems that way, I think they'll fix the game when it really comes out.
I would take MK in a FG tournament over SSBB any day. I haven't played one in a while, last time I played MK was Deadly Alliance but that seemed pretty good to me. Just what the hell is wrong wit it? I haven't played it in so long but all I hear is that it sux now. What happened?
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Last edited by No End N Site on Aug 13th, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Well if that's how it is than I guess it wont show. Man, I bet games like SC and SF draw hundreds. I heard Tekken didn't do as well because it was somethin like it was broken wit infinites and stuff.
Damn, has Mortal Kombat really fallen that hard, I thought games like MKDA and MKA would be at the tourny, are they?
I think it's gonna be there...it has DC characters in it.
I hope they fix Tekken6 before they put it out there cuz I heard some pretty bad stuff about the gameplay over in Japan, thus far.
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