he's basically an offspring from venom and carnage, and his host is a good cop from new york with a wife and kid, we know how toxin came to be with the cop so its not like theres a questionable past behind him, wolverine takes this one on experience alone, he's proved his own against venom so he'd definitely take toxin out
the toxin character is real cool though, i hope theres more on the character seeing as its the first symbiote who's struggling to be an all-around good guy
Wow toxin sounds cool. Any pics? ALso i remember reading a venom comic where he was tied up and then his symbiote offsprung about 5 differnet symbiotes. One was a women symbiote/person who was yellowish that could throw her hair around and destory stuff. She fought spider-man for a bit. Can someone tell me the rest of that 'series'?
How do you know Toxin isn't class 100 strength or something? You don't, you can make any predictions, because for all we know Toxin could be too durable for Wolverine, or he might just reform whatever Wolvie cuts away.
Wolverine can't touch Toxin. Venom is class 11, he had an offspring, Carnage, who is class 25. That's roughly double. Carnage is not only stronger but more versatile than Venom. Then Carnage had an offspring. It's probaby safe to say that Toxin is at least class 50, and more versatile than both of them. Shit, even Carnage is afriad Toxin will kill him.
Wolverine can get a few swipes in, but he isn't going to win.
agreed from what we've seen even I have to hatedly admit that toxin would put a big hurting on wolverine......of coarse anything's possible in the marvel universe so who knows.
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Wolverine giving Hulk trouble is crap writing, and it was just to sell comic books. Hulk is class 100, and Wolverine isn't even at class 1. Wolverine would be lucky to break through Hulk's skin.
Who gives a shit if Venom is afriad of him? Carnage is a psychotic serial killer(scared of noone), and would tear Wolverine to shit. Toxin is stronger than Venom and Carnage combined, Wolverine can't touch him.
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toxin has never proven to be stronger than venom or carnage, in venom/carnage #4, toxin gets beat by the both of them, and then spidey and black cat step in to help, toxin only hits carnage once and he runs away with venom (since they're outnumbered) its never shown that he's stronger than the both of them, thats basically just your speculation since carnage is stronger than venom but nothings been proven for toxin
hulk fighting wolvie is crap writing?although it was his first appearance, whether you like it or not it happened, wolverine fought hulk on several occasions and has proven a worthy opponent (in case you havent noticed, thats kind of his trademark)
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What that 2nd cover doesn't show you is that on the back side of the cover.....Wendigo is smacking Hulk in the back with a tree trunk.
Carnage is not class 25, he is just a little bit stronger than Venom...not double his strength. I don't recall Venom ever truly having much difficulty with Wolverine. There was the Venom Tsunami comics that were not only horribly written, but horribly drawn where a hostless Symbiote Venom tried to take over Wolverine, but in Tooth and Claw the two don't really get the chance to fight.
Toxin is stronger than Venom or Carnage, but not by that much. And Toxin's biggest problem is that he can't control the symbiote. He nearly killed that crook before he got level headed again.
Toxin just doesn't have a strong enough understanding of his alien symbiote to take out Wolverine. Wolvie is too experienced to lose against a foe like this...
But Toxin most certainly does have the potential to kick Wolvie's butt... He just hasn't got enough experience yet.
I only read the first issue of Tooth and Claw and unless they had other encounters, it was Dirtnap that was scared of Wolverine when he was in temporal posession of Venom.
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He just hasn't got enough experience yet.
