Magneto and Proffessor Xavior vs. Apocalypse and the Leader
I say Magneto would be buisy distracting Apocalypse while Proffessor X dukes it out with the Leader who if he scrued up could always go back in time and fix his mistakes...unfair but Who wins?
You people just don't get it, do you. Magneto can't harm Apocalypse if Apocalypse is in full power, can't even strach him, Apocalpyse in AoA was low on energy.
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Apocalypse on AOA was NOT low on energy. He was at full power because he dominated the world. It's not like in the regular MU when Poccy kept getting beaten up by everybody and would understandably be weakened from all the beat downs. Nobody opposed Apocalypse until Magneto formed his X-men, and by then, Poccy had a whole army to protect him. He still lost.
Magneto, on the other hand, WAS low on energy during AOA. He was an old man who was never restored to youth, and he lost half his power in some accident. He still won.
Current Magneto opens up a black hole and sends Apocalyse flying through it. Or he rips him apart again. Or he turns off Poccy's mind.
But he did not fully conquerd the world, until he didn't conquer, he wouldn't want to revujente himslef, after conquering he wanted to revujente himslef, to be fresh for new kingdom.. Hey people, this is comic, but whay did the creators of cartoon (it was epsecila shown in Evolution) made Apocalypse 100 times more powerful than Magneto and beat him and other twenty powerul mutans with one blast and than Magneto attacked Apocalypse alone and Apocalypse made him look like baby. Magento realesd all his power, Apocalypse only raised one hand and more than easily turned it agaisnt Magneto (I don't know whay they did that if Magneto is more powerful). They only wanted to show that Apocalypse (in full powers) is much, much, much more powerful than Magneto (Magneto was more than humiliated, after seing that, it's not worth even comparing those two) just don't know what are you thinking, sometimes is just sad.
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Where on earth did you get that from? Where in AOA did it ever say that Apocalypse was "saving himself" for his new kingdom? He took over the world, and was preparing to nuke Europe. He never showed any weakness whatsoever. He never mentioned wanting to not rejuvenate himself - where is this coming from?
In the classic X-men cartoon in the mid-90s, Magneto and Apocalypse fought and Magneto got the better of him. They fought again the next episode and fought to a draw (though Magneto fell off a floating rock or something in the battle).
In orignal cartoon they only fought twice (in Beyond good and Evil), they both relaes energy toward each other and Magneto stand literally 2 seconds against Apocalypse energy (that should say enough), he was blown away, but luckily, somehow managed to then to throw him, because Apcoaylpse didn't even see (Apocalypse wasn't hurt for 0,1%). And few second before that, Magneto throw him, beacuse he dind't even see him, beacuse Mystquie came behind and than Apocalypse broke those stones and than look at Magneto and Mysiqtue shootinw with her gun, Magento shooting at Apocalypse with his power, Apocalypse was normal height, and Magneno with help of Mystique couldn't even move him. (Magento couldn't even move Apocalypse until Apocalypse didn't see and wasnt' preperad). And than in the and of the same episode, Apocalypse only needed 1 second, he shoted at Magento and Magento would be dead if Wolverine wouldn't save him. You saw with your own eyes, escpeily in Evolution, it was like Apocalypse Vs. Magento or we could say it was like Apocaylpse vs normal human (that show extreme differenc in power level), and you are saying the opposite, I can't belive it, even if it is cartoon, it is base on comic book, and if Magneto would be more powerful, then they would make him more pwoeruf in cartoon, whil they made Apcoaylpse much and much, much more powerful than Magetno..
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Magneto couldn't even move him? What are you talking about?
Round 1: Apocalypse said he owns Magneto, Magneto disagreed, Magneto then blasted Apocalypse, picking him up with his power and slamming him THROUGH the wall. Advantage: Magneto. Apocalypse got up and blasted Magneto at the same time Magneto blasted Apocalypse. Magneto was knocked back, but Apocalypse was thrown OUT of the building. Advantage: Magneto. Apocalypse needed his servants to find him, and fly him back up into the building. By then, Magneto and Mystique were surrounded by Sinister, the Dark Riders and the Horsemen. So obviously they escaped. But Magneto definitely got the better of Apocalypse there.
Round 2: The next episode. Apocalypse and the X-men are on various floating rocks. Magneto says, "Do what you want with the others, Apocalypse is mine". Apocalypse says, "Do your worst, I fear no one". He turns his hands into some kind of rumbling devices that destroy the rock Magneto is standing on. Magneto falls off the rock. Wolverine grabs him, but it's not like Magneto can't fly. They don't fight again.
Under no circumstances was it shown that Apocalypse is more powerful than Magneto. Magneto got the better of Apocalypse in 2 out of 3 exchange. The cartoon portrayed them as near equals.
In AOA, a weak Magneto killed a full power Apocalyse. And this was even after Magneto was tortured and beaten by Apocalypse and Holocaust.
Current Magneto can warp reality. He can just undo Apocalypse if he wanted to.
You are not so smart right, or are you blind. When they both blasted energy blast toward them, how long did Magneto lasted, how ling, 2 seconds, that only told how much gretar energy Apocalypse has. And you are mentioing no Evolution, why is that, I know why, beacuse he humiliated Magneto by using 10 % of his powers while Magneto used all that he got, and h wasn't shown weaker in Evolution than in comic book, only Apocaylpse was awaken and was in full powers.
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You're completely misremembering that encounter. My guess is that you're intentionally misremembering it. Means you're lying. Magneto was JUST FINE after taking a blast from Apocalypse. He didn't lose consciousness, he didn't struggle to get up...he got knocked back and STAYED ON HIS FEET. Apocalypse, on the other hand, was thrown out of a building and had to be retrieved by his minions to come back to the building. Are you denying this happened? Yes or no?
And I'm not mentioning Evolution because I've never seen an episode of it in my life. I have no idea what happens there. But I somehow doubt Apocalypse used "10%" of his power. Did he say, "Now I shall smite you, Magneto, using only 10% of my power!"? No? He didn't? Then what are you talking about?
That's right. Nothing.
Back on topic - COMIC Magneto owns COMIC Apocalypse. and COMIC Xavier owns COMIC The Leader.
You are such a liar. Magneto couldn't hold Apocalypse blast, do you here Magento voice, it's poiso and he can't hold, even thorug his voice you can hear he can't hold(I am not talking about concionuses, only that mAGNETO ENERGY WASN'T CLOSE TO HOLD Apocalypse one, it was for 2 seconds and Magento was blasted, but he got lucky Apocalypse blast didn't directly hit him, you know why he didn't, beacuse Magneto would die and of course they didn't do that. Apocalypse was thrown out of the building and he was damage literlly 0,0% and how much at the and of Beyond good and Evil Apocalypse needed to defeat Magneto, 1 second I think, Magneto would die, if Wolverine wouldn't save him and in the very end Apocalypse had in trap, Magneto, Wolvie, Bishop, Cable and Psyclcke at once, he netruleized their powers. And did you see what I told when Mystiqe and Magento were shottin at Apcoaypse, Magento useing his power nad Mystuiqe using gun, Apocaylpse at normal height, and Magneto couldn't move him, Magneto only throw him, when Apocalpys didin't see him, when he saw him, Magneto couldn't move Apocalyse in noraml height with help of Mystiqe.
I think you have no right to comment about Evolution, Apocaylpse was literally using about 10% of his powers vs Magneto, while MAGNETO was using all his power, everyting that he had, Apocalypse only easily raised left hend and than aperrd to kill Magneto. And belive Magento was shown as powerful as he was in comic, but Apocaylpse was shown as higher entity when he is in full power, to make you even more sad, Apocaylpse in Evolution defetad Magneto and twenty other mutants only with one blast. And than after two episode Magento attacked Apocaylpse alone, Apocaylpse killed him with 10 % of using his powers, he finshed him in 10 seconds.
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I never watched Evolution, so I can't comment. If someone else would like to comment on Evolution, I'd be interested in hearing an UNBIASED account of it.
Back to the cartoon we both know:
Can't hold what? What can't Magneto hold? What are you talking about? I can't understand what you're saying. Magneto wasn't trying to hold anything, he wasn't trying to hold Apocalypse's blast. He blasted Apocalypse with magnetic force, and sent Apocalypse through a wall. Apocalypse got up, GOT BIGGER, then blasted Magneto at the same time Magneto blasted him. Magneto was sent back by the blast by stayed on his feet. Apocalypse was sent flying out of a building. Mystique had nothing to do with that exchange, and there was no "holding" of anything that took place. Magneto was then surrounded by all of Poccy's troops and he and Mystique left just as Apocalypse was RESCUED by his troops and brought back. Again, no kind of "power holding" whatsoever. I have no idea what you're referring to.
hahaha...what are you talking about? First you say Magneto couldn't move him, then you said Magneto threw him. First you say Mystique and Magneto are using their powers on Apocalypse and couldn't do anything, then you say the only reason why Magneto nailed him is because Apocalypse didn't see him? How do you not see somebody who was shooting you to no effect just before?
What is this nonsense?
hahahahaha.
Bottom line - Apocalypse got taken off his feat TWICE. And both times, they were staring right at each other. Magneto got the ground under him demolished and fell off the rock. Big deal.
Magneto still wins. You making up details doesn't change that.
I said Magento couldn't move him, he only move him when Apocalypse didn't see him, first Mysitque distracted him, than when Magetno thorw him, but then he couldln't, beacuse Apocalypse was preperd for the attack. Magetno tried to hold the blast, if he wouldn't, he would die, but he still holded for 2 seconds, he couldn't any more. Apocalypse saw Magetno was blasted, he thought Magneto is finished, and he again wasn't preperd and he balsted Apocalypse and doing 0 % of a damage (so all Magneto effort were for nothing, he was than stopped by by Apocalypse one horseman) while Apocaylpse almost kileld him with one blast, and did you forget at the end Apocylpse neurtelzie their powers, Magneto, Wolve, Bishop and Cable. I could sent you the epsiode where Apocaylpse fights Magneto in Evolution, tell me your e-mail. See it for yourself. Apocalypse was always said to be the most powerful mutant, why are peopel comapring him in vs Thanos and powerful beigns, while they don't want even think about Magneto comparison to such beings, only you and Magneto fans are doing such illogilac things. Marvel clearyl stated with Evolution Apocalypse being supreme beings and also in original series far beyond.
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I think the vast majority of people on this board believe that Magneto is more powerful, actually. Just look at the various responses on this thread, for example. Or any of the other threads here.
Apocalypse got creamed into the vs. Thanos thread. I think two people supported him.
It seems clear that Slovenian episodes are completely different. In the REAL version, Mystique never "distracted" Apocalypse ("hey! Blue lips! Look at me, dancing! I'm a dancing machine!" "Your dancing prowess is no match for....OWWWW!").
Magneto didn't "attempt" to "throw" him, he blasted Apocalypse and sent him flying in to the wall, then did it again and sent him flying out of a building.
Magneto didn't try to "hold" any blast - he got hit with the blast because they blasted each other at the same time. Magneto was knocked backwards by Poccy's blast. Poccy was sent flying out a building with Magneto's blast.
Poccy had no reason to think Magneto was finished beecause Magneto never went down against Poccy. MAGNETO thought Apocalypse was finished because he was last seen flying out a building until his troops saved him. Magneto and Mystique left right after.
Magneto wasn't stopped by any horsemen, either. After he nailed Apocalypse, Sinister and all of Poccy's men came into the room, then Apocalypse's troops came back carrying Apocalypse. Magneto then blasted towards them all to keep them away while he escaped with Mystique.
And Apocalypse didn't neutralize anybody with his own powers, so that's meaningless.
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