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Question Dark Phoenix vs. Superman 1m, Superman prime

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both supermen are powerful

superman 1M is prob past Odin in power and superman prime is prob past galactus, but i think phoenix still takes them


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both supermen are powerful

superman 1M is prob past Odin in power and superman prime is prob past galactus, but i think phoenix still takes them




What the f**k? Superman prime is not even close to a full powered galactus or any other galactus, when fully charged is on the same level with Eternity he will absorb all that solar energy and leave his a$$ for dead. Superman 1million is not even close where are talking about a skyfather whose powers are limitless, Odin can absorb all the lifeforce from the nine worlds surrounding asgard into himself and become a all powerful skyfather powerful enough to take on a celestial.

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What the f**k? Superman prime is not even close to a full powered galactus or any other galactus, when fully charged is on the same level with Eternity he will absorb all that solar energy and leave his a$$ for dead. Superman 1million is not even close where are talking about a skyfather whose powers are limitless, Odin can absorb all the lifeforce from the nine worlds surrounding asgard into himself and become a all powerful skyfather powerful enough to take on a celestial.


In Thor 300 Odin got the big beat down from Arishembig grin He hardly noticed himsmile


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Odin is below the skyfathers everybody knows that. After the celestails destroyed the Destroyer armor where it had all of the life force of asgard in it . After that odin was killed and brought back in Thor 301 by the other gods zeu(skyfather) and others. But if odin absorb all the life force from the nine worlds surrounding asgard he would have f**ked up Arishem in battle because he would be on the same level as a galactus in power for short amount of time.

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What the f**k? Superman prime is not even close to a full powered galactus or any other galactus, when fully charged is on the same level with Eternity he will absorb all that solar energy and leave his a$$ for dead.


Galactus cannot do whatever he wishes; Superman Prime with the GL ring and Sword of Truth can.

In terms of stand alone power, no, different level. With weapons? Different story.

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Galactus cannot do whatever he wishes; Superman Prime with the GL ring and Sword of Truth can.

In terms of stand alone power, no, different level. With weapons? Different story.


Never this post is not following you around but please tell me more about this sword of truth shifty


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Never this post is not following you around but please tell me more about this sword of truth shifty


With the Sword of Truth he shapes reality. With the GL Ring (referenced as the most powerful object in the DC Universe) he does...just about anything he can imagine via willpower (do recall Kyle contained Solaris going supernova). What about his willpower? Even "regular" Superman overcame Mageddon's influence via sheer force of will...

...with a little help/prodding from whom? Batman, of course.

The funny thing is Wizard had JLA defeating Galactus in one of their matchups (I had to laugh at that myself).

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With the Sword of Truth he shapes reality. With the GL Ring (referenced as the most powerful object in the DC Universe) he does...just about anything he can imagine via willpower (do recall Kyle contained Solaris going supernova). What about his willpower? Even "regular" Superman overcame Mageddon's influence via sheer force of will...

...with a little help/prodding from whom? Batman, of course.

The funny thing is Wizard had JLA defeating Galactus in one of their matchups (I had to laugh at that myself).


Please tell me which issue the sword of truth is in please shifty


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"In Thor 300 Odin got the big beat down from Arishem He hardly noticed him"

And Celestials are below only to Living Tribunal and Eternity. Not too shabby id say.

"Odin is below the skyfathers everybody knows that"

Maybe you meant below Celestials. You see he cant be below a skyfather when he is one. And the most powerful at Marvel together with Zeus.

"battle because he would be on the same level as a galactus in power for short amount of time."

Those two are below a full powered Galactus but not - that - much. Not as the difference between a Celestial and a Skyfather for example.

"With the Sword of Truth he shapes reality"

Didnt he had a sword like that in the Pre Crisis tales? It was given by God IIRC. " King Superman " maybe?

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"In Thor 300 Odin got the big beat down from Arishem He hardly noticed him"

And Celestials are below only to Living Tribunal and Eternity. Not too shabby id say.

"Odin is below the skyfathers everybody knows that"

Maybe you meant below Celestials. You see he cant be below a skyfather when he is one. And the most powerful at Marvel together with Zeus.

"battle because he would be on the same level as a galactus in power for short amount of time."

Those two are below a full powered Galactus but not - that - much. Not as the difference between a Celestial and a Skyfather for example.

"With the Sword of Truth he shapes reality"

Didnt he had a sword like that in the Pre Crisis tales? It was given by God IIRC. " King Superman " maybe?


Don't spoil it Olympian shifty


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"With the Sword of Truth he shapes reality"

Didnt he had a sword like that in the Pre Crisis tales? It was given by God IIRC. " King Superman " maybe?


Yep.

Btw, olympian isn't "spoiling" anything, whirly shifty

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OK, he has never had a sword of truth post crisis, this comes from some peice of fan fiction from the web as far as I know. If anyone can prove differently I would be very interested to see the issue numberbig grin


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Just the idea of Superman Prime is pretty amazing because he could move planets after being on Earth only about 30 years, now picture what he could do after actually sitting in the sun for 15,000 years. All of his other powers are multiplied to very, very high levels. He could very well be the fastest being in all of Marvel and DC. He could even be strong enough to fight Lucifer and win but we don't know.....and Phoenix is unimaginably strong so I'm going to say Phoenix. I wish we knew more about Prime sad.

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OK, he has never had a sword of truth post crisis, this comes from some peice of fan fiction from the web as far as I know. If anyone can prove differently I would be very interested to see the issue numberbig grin


Superman Prime in the 853rd Century is about as "post crisis" as you can get. Grant Morrison wrote it (same guy who created Superman Prime); that's hardly "fan fiction." Fiction, yeah.

I see you trying shifty

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Superman Prime in the 853rd Century is about as "post crisis" as you can get. Grant Morrison wrote it (same guy who created Superman Prime); that's hardly "fan fiction." Fiction, yeah.

I see you trying shifty


YEs he is but there is no sword in it, a lantern ring yes, but no Sword of truth, trust me on this Never.


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YEs he is but there is no sword in it, a lantern ring yes, but no Sword of truth, trust me on this Never.


I'd rather "trust" Grant Morrison sad

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I'd rather "trust" Grant Morrison sad


We had a huge debate about this on here, if you've read 1 Million, as I have its sitting in front of me please show me the page the sword is on. The Worlogog and Hourman altered reality at the end not a Sword of truth. Its a internet urban legend mate. Find a reputable mention of it on the net please. big grin


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