Prince Namor has already faced these three X-Men in battle, and simply put, kicked their ass. But they were inexperienced. Weak compared to what they are now. When both sides are now stronger and more experienced, what is the result now?
Now, I say that Namor can handle these three with 6/10. What about you?
Beast is now up to 40 tons, but Namor (fully powered) can still swat him away like a child. Angel has a healing factor now, so he could probably stay in the fight longer, but his strength is inconsequential. Namor can fly at Mach 7, he could take Angel out of the sky like a falcon taking down a chickapee.
The only one with a chance here is Cyclops. If he tears off the visor and goes all out, I think he would stand a good chance of killing Namor. Namor is fast enough, though, that unless Beast and Angel are willing to buy time with their lives, Cyclops would never get the chance.
Have you seen Astonishing X-Men and Cyclops's giant blast? And what about Archangels healing factor and soul sword? And how Beast tore through Danger Room?
Beast is NOT up to 40 tons now. Since when have you seen him pull off Rogue level strength feats. Quite a few of the bar chart ratings are wrong for the X-men in the handbooks and on the marvel site. For example Rogues apparrently in the same class as Colossus and Namor. We know thats wrong so we dismiss it. Beast has never shown a strength feat to suggest he's even beyond Spidermans class 15. Read his bio and look at how far it says he can jump and how fast he can run. The figures arent even Spiderman level. Further supporting my claim that while his bar chart reading is incorrect his lifting capacity which is actually spelled out in the bio is correct. He was previously able to lift 1 ton (2000 pounds) and after his secondary mutation he can now lift 2 tons as stated in his bio:
They have no chance DarkC and you know it. Thats why you made this thread because you just want to hear people say Namor wins. Beast can lift 2 tons not 40 he will get annihilated, angels pathetic he fies at 150 mph at top speed and apart from that has human durability. Putting him against Namor is a joke. Cyclops is the only real threat but Namor with his fast reflexes and aerial agility will be able to knock his head off just like that. This is no proper challenge. Without properly weighing this up people can just come in and say Namor wins because you've chosen lame opposition. Make it a real challenge make it a decent thread by throwing in someone like classic rogue instead of beast or angel.
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Last edited by GalacticStorm on Sep 29th, 2005 at 12:31 PM
oh c'mon darkcrawler, you pick three of the weakest x-men to put against namor? it makes the x-men look bad, and namor look good, and you usually do that when you make namor threads. the only challenge is beast, he's severly underrated
It's inconclusive whether 25 tons<Beast, since if you look at the Power Grid he has a five rating in strength in the very same scan you posted that says 2 tons. Imo a errors in text are easier for editors to miss than errors in a graph.
Yes but if you look at his jumping abilities theyre not even beyond class 15 Spiderman Beast is not class 40 when have you seen him pull of a rogue level feat? Never because hes not that strong. Many of the bar chart readings are incorrect for many of the characters however beasts lifiting capacity is actually spelled out as 2 tons. That plus his jumping stats (which are also spelled out) and his comic book appearances support the fact that he lifts 2 tons as actually stated here.
Beast was never meant to be another powerhouse character. People get too excited when it comes to upgrades and forget to view the situation with common sense and objectivity.
Why not put classic rogue in place of either beast or angel?
Now that woulkd be a good fight. That way both sides have a chance. As it stands Namor definitely wins the majority however you look at it. Thats lame.
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