Re: Living Tribunal vs. Death, Eternity, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet
Short, short answer: No. If you don't have the Heart of the Universe with you, you're going down.
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Re: Re: Living Tribunal vs. Death, Eternity, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet
Don't you start that again. At any rate, that would only be a stalemate.
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Re: Re: Re: Living Tribunal vs. Death, Eternity, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet
What do you mean dont start that again. Dont be fooled by Mr Splat its actually shown in X-men forever that Phoenix is the only constant and has a greater purpose in existence. They are peers though.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Living Tribunal vs. Death, Eternity, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet
Please. Phoenix fighting LT would be like Jesus fighting the Holy Spirit.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Living Tribunal vs. Death, Eternity, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet
LT isnt an aspect of God he's a being created to serve god so thats incorrect. As X-men forever states that LT is replaced every creation cycle controlled by Phoenix its a possibility that he was created by the energies of creation which is ...........PHOENIX
The true beyonders arent as powerful as you think they are. Theres no evidence that theyre any more powerful than Eternity.
People simply got ideas about the Pre retcon Beyonder mixed up with The true beyonders who are not embodiments of a multiverse seperate from our own. They live in a dimension accessible through the negative zone. They are very much a part of our multiverse and so are under the jurisdiction of beings like LT
n then u say u dont start arguments, beyonders were BEYOND the multiverse, the things the preretconned beyonder did were a repreentation of the true beyonders, even reed confirmed that the beyonder could indeed destroy the multiverse.
When will you guys get it?
The only thing that beats an aspect of God is another aspect of God. - [The Presence, the Source, the Logoz, TOAA, etc.]
And LT is powered by God's energies, which puts him a notch below that.
And anything inside of the multiverse.. is at least a notch below that. Depending on the character.. sometimes several notches.
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Last edited by Juntai on Oct 13th, 2005 at 02:14 PM
The feats the Fake Beyonder did were all written off (RETCONNED) as illusions so how can you say that they are an indication of what the True Beyonders are capable of?
That doesnt make sense Leon cant you see that.
The true beyonders exist in the Negative Zone. The fake beyond was from beyond. Thats what you dont understand people have got the ideas mixed up.
How old are you for you to consider someone stating a different opinion to yours as grounds for an argument?
The Beyonder was a controversial character amongst creators. Creators felt that Jim Shooter had abused his role as editor-in-chief, and forced the use of the omnipotent character upon other writers and editors. Some critics felt the crossovers didn't always mesh well with the main book. One of the most vocal critics was John Byrne.
Apparently, Steve Englehart wanted to tie in the Beyonder to older characters known as the Beyonders. According to Englehart, editor Ralph Macchio hated the character and ordered the Beyonder "removed" from the Marvel Universe. Englehart did as asked but has stated that he tried to exile the character with dignity. The character was subjected to a retcon making him less potent that originally determined, and explanations of his omnipotence have been written off as the more powerful beings "playing along" because the Beyonder's role was pre-determined.
There you have it Leon. The true beyonders were around in Marvel prior to the fake beyonder and Secret Wars. They live in a dimension accessible from the negative zone and were behind the cosmic cubes. Therefor eyou have no proof that theyre even more powerful than the abstracts and we know that theyre under the jurisdiction of LT.
A lot of the editors in Marvel didnt like the fake beyonder so they retconned him, wrote all of his feats as illusions and then linked him to the pre-existing beings called the beyonders.
Somehwere down the line a lot of people here seem to have got the ideas between them mixed them. Glad ive set you straight.
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Last edited by GalacticStorm on Oct 13th, 2005 at 02:58 PM
When i saw your name pop up i knew you were gonna post
LT guards the multiverse my baby created theyre obviously peers its just that Jean has a greater purpose in creation, she also outlasts him as the only constant in creation
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