Ok, before I say anything, I don't want any of that bullshit fanboy D.C/Marvel bias.
I just want to know why someone as fast as Surfer & Superman & Gladiator can't beat Thanos. Why couldn't they speedblitz him? Why could they not throw him to space where he can't fly and use their powers against him there?
How does he beat someone who is so fast, and very strong and can fly when he has very limited movement?
I've often wondered if the heroes don't go through a P.I.S/C.I.S fase when they fight Thanos.
There is no real reason why Superman/Surfer/Gladiator/Strange couldn't beat him.
Well, I've just thought about it a lot recently, and there is no real answer.
When someone asks, a Thanos fan normally shows Thanos beating Surfer or Gladiator.
But, without mentioning fights against a hero who could have been jobbing to Thanos, there is no true reason why Superman or Strange or any of the four couldn't beat him or at least stalemate him.
Regular Thor ------- Thanos took him
Drax -------- Thanos blasted a planet on him and beat him
Mad Thor (with gem) -------- Thanos was hanging with him.
Odin ----------- Thanos was still hanging.
Tyrant ------- Thanos was still hanging
Fallen one--------- Used warm speed --- what happend Thanos stop him dead cold with just by raising his hand.
Champion (with power gem) -------- Couldn't even punch him.
Well written Thanos easily takes world destroying blows like nothing, so what will superman do punch him? Not going to work , Speed hmmm he death with speed before , better question when has Thanos ever struggle with speed other than Runner ( with space gem)? In fact he handles people coming at him at hyper speed just by punching them out.
Heat vision. Ha he has taken shot from Odin himself.
it's not that people job to him , it's the same thing as say can superman /SS/ Strage can beat Odin.
hey he doesn't go around speed blitzing people he is above that so is thanos
See, though KGKG...you're doing what I asked not to do. Using feats against heroes who may or may not have been jobbing.
Surfer always ends up h2h with Thanos(For unknown reasons), but a bloodlusted Surfer with no pis/cis would never once touch him. Just do his 300x lightspeed while blasting.
Gladiator & Superman would do the same, but to a smaller degree.
Strange has taken on far more powerful people than Thanos, and yet he says "He's too powerful"? Strange has fought the LT and lived. Fought Dormammu(A full fledged Skyfather)and has a winning record.
Yet, Thanos...too powerful? That's jobbing to the extreme. What keeps Strange from simply banishing him?
Hell, Strange's highest feats(Other than I.G type stuff) make Thanos' look like childsplay.
At the least, they should all be capable of stalemating him.
I'm convinced Marvel makes Thanos out to be more than he is, or that at most, he's just extremely good with prep.
people give thanos way to mouch credite thats why. thanos is not stronger then superman or gladitor. I repeat not stronger he has never ever shown that strength level. he went up against prof hulk, thing. and etc way to go that a big deal......not realy. the thing that makes thanos above characters like superman,silver surfer, gladitor and even odin is 4 the fact that they have no means of hurting him at all. the inly way to kill thanos is if that person is more powerful then death. death mad him immortal under her own power so the only way to put thanos out is if ur above death in power. thanos would kill superman in a fight thats a none fact.............. but say one day death was bored and said to superman i m gonna make u an immortal then no one would be able to fu<k with superman.. not odin not zues not even normal powered G. i m not saying he would defeat them i m just saying the wont be able to put him down cuss he would get right bac up.
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i've said much the same thing in the past but i don't think they could actually beat him -- i don't see any reason why they couldn't give him a hell of a fight though.
the teleportation thing is still a question to me (unless it has recently been dealt with) -- he WAS stranded in space by both thor and runner and apparently couldn't get back under his own power. and eternals do not all possess teleport powers.
his biggest asset is his ability to absorb vast amounts of damage -- more than any of the others can take. much as i hate to admit it, i also think he is stronger than the strongest of them (supes) and a greater energy wielder than the greatest of them (ss). strange may well have the best chance against him (though i seriously believe a bloodlust supes would make things interesting, as a mad thor did). i've never understood why he couldn't just be banished, though. basically, he has massive (though not terribly versatile) energy projection, enormous strength and ridiculous durability. thor however HAS had decent showings against him, so the others should as well. on the other hand, odin had some trouble with him (though i always thought it was silly all they did was blast each other when odin has so many OTHER abilities. one of the reasons i think odin didn't go all out against thanos).
and of course, thanos's pretty smart and usually has tech.
in these ring-type matches though, his brains would count for less than in a normal setting.
still, he's too much for any ONE of them to take i think, but a good combo of characters could do it.
(kg, you remember the one man war i waged against you and cosmic cube in the ww/supes/cm v thanos thread a long while back? i STILL say those three could take him!!)
I agree with you 100%, but I believe your arguments are falling on deaf ears.
Much props to you for this thread though.
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<<I'm convinced Marvel makes Thanos out to be more than he is, or that at most, he's just extremely good with prep.>>
of course they do. people LOVE thanos. it's the wolverine-effect taken to the cosmic level. and to justify his popularity they make him immune to death and have death 'augment' him. thanos was at his best in the starlin days. i was likely more excited than anyone when they brought him back in the 90's, but the wolverine-effect soon worked to dampen my enthusiasm. wasn't long before i was wishing for someone to just take his arse out once and for all. again, a lot like wolvie . . .
Above Juggernaut Durability
Far above Superman strength.
Far above Reed intelligence.
Far above Surfer's blast power.
I understand that much, it's a doozy and makes him insanely powerful, but what about:
His speed?
Skill?(Champ jobbed, it's that simple.)
Reflexes?
Teleportation/Flight ability?
Any other abilities that would make him capable of fighting multiple heavy weights who are blitzing him at lightspeed.
Thanos is stonger than the strongest hero
Thanos is quick enough to hit the fastest out there.
Thanos can also trap someone like Mad THor (with gem) without problem( and he doesn't need gun) ------- Now just think what that means.
SS , Strange , Adam etc collected energy couldn't contain something Thanos tired on Odin. Now which hero can escape that? none
Mad Thor was at least 10 Stronger than the Power gem made him Uber.
Why couldn't they speed blitz , Teleport him? well what will that do?
SS tried his best attack didn't have much effect , Teleport ? Thanos can teleport also.
As for Thanos is a team Killer.
Easy argument for Thanos is he trap them in energy fields the shit he tried on ODin.
and apparently Thanos never ever uses FUll power , so all the battles he is toying with his opponents.
Piggy I dig what you saying but that that could apply to almost any uber character.
Any battle vs SS ---- I can easily say he goes back in time before …… bab bla , or attack at 300X light speed ( how who is going to touch him)
Probably the same reason Hulk never throws Wolverine into orbit even though it's obvious he could.
The Thanos v Odin fight was PIS, too. They basically h2h'd each other and threw out a few blasts.
Odin didn't use 1% of his power, Thanos used all he had, which compaired to Odin, wasn't much.
I'm not trying to put Thanos on blast saying he's weak, he obviously isn't. I just don't understand all the jobbing.
And yes, PIS happens a lot in comics, but that's why we have these forums, we have fights where there IS no PIS. No reason why Surfer doesn't blitz or Strange doesn't banish. In comics, Thanos is top dawg, here, he isn't. IMO
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