Well no weapons automatically puts Batman at a disadvantage.
add the fact that with his Radar sense DD should be able to avoid most of Bats hit. then add DD advantage in speed and agility not to say bats is slow it's just DD is the more faster and agile of the two.
i give this to DD 7/10 times without any Pis or Cis.
if this was written in a actual comic though then bats would be written as being so fast that even DD can't figure out his next move will be while at the same time figuring out what Matt's secret identity really is and knowing what he like to drink in his coffee and whither he like to take summer walks in the park while at the same time figuring out he's blind all by just looking at him.
Logic and clear power advantage don't mean jack shit to Batman's mighty jobber aura.
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Batman is supposed to be a near perfect specimen, i.e an olympic level athlete, stamina, strength and reflexes honed to near human perfect. and he has a masteryof many forms of martial arts. Though he is nowhere near other 'humans' like captain america i bet he can still put up a decent struggle.
DD does have the advantage of enhanced senses etc, but i think it all boils down to who is the better fighter.
There are plenty of martial artists that can take down people stronger than them, bigger than them, and even faster than them, (remember DD is still just a human) and so the differences between them are not as high as you migh assume.
Not trying to down play Bats training. Like I said he would have to land a hit.
And in the strength department i would give it to Bats as well as the Skills.
Speed and Agility and Radar sense that allows him to tell what Bats next move is goes to DD.
unless Bats a half a mile a way DD's ear and sense can pick up what he's going to do before he fully does it. and with no gadgets to mess with it I can't see Bats wining.
And Armour? so what as soon as DD figures out he's not going to get any hits by Punching him in the stomach he goes for that big exposed chin of his.
Batman is a superior fighter, no question. He's taken on superhuman adversaries, hand to hand, like when he fought one of Darksied's goons to the death, the Apokolyptian grunt was able to lift a two ton water tank but Batman took him with a series of dodges and attacks, remember Batman knows where to hit you.
But I can't sleep on Daredevil his agility is definately superior to Batman's but I don't think he's much stronger than him.
I agree with what your saying for the most part, DD def has the speed advantage her, but his radar sense wont do him much good her.
Batman is a master of how many martial arts?? over a hundred, DD will hardly be able to predict what he is doing next, Batman can attack with whatever method he chooses, aikido, kung-fu, ninjitsu, kick-boxing, judo. His movements will not only be erratic, but effective at attacking an opponent he knows will be anticipating his next move.
So what if DD does anticipate/sense his next move, all he will do is block, by which time batman will of changed fighting style, stance, and approach and keep on fighting.
Batman's a disgustingly good martial artist, but so is Daredevil. After seeing some of his better speed feats (deflecting a bullet back at a guy and hitting him between the eyes and shattering his sunglasses) Daredevil is a freaking meta. At LEAST Batgirl level physically.
I'd give Matt 7/10 as well. Both have very good pressure point knowledge and fighting skills, but Daredevil has a distinct speed edge.
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i'd go with DD for the win as well.... DD's radar sense will tell him about Batman's armour and where it's weaker points are and, as always, that sense plus his hearing tells him when an opponent is about to move increasing his reaction time (which is why he appears to be so fast) Batman can't fake out DD
You guys are down playing Batman's strength a bit, besides hundreds of different forms of attacks his agility is paralleled by few and as for his strength, he's gotta be pretty strong in order to make 50 foot jumps and land on his feet, no doubt he knows how to land but still some shock absorbant force has to come into play to help the landing, enough infact that I would consider it a very strong feat even for an optimaly conditioned athlete.
The fact is, Daredevil does all of those things too... His senses make him even faster than Batman, though his fighting skills are just a notch below, IMO. In everything else, they're essentially equal.
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were not downplaying his strength or his speed and agility. Just when compared to DD hs agility and speed is much better than Bats. just a notch above.
His strength and definatly his skills are his advantages in this match. but like I said it's not going to do much if he can't land a hit.
were do u get that notion from?
DD has gone toe to toe with some of mavels best fighters. can batman say he was trained by some one as good as stick? ( by the way stick would beat batmans ass all over the place) batman may be a better fighter then DD but not by enough to amke a seorus deffrence and then u add in DD speed advantage of knowing were batman attacks befor he attacks
Basically Daredevil is the best of Batman and Nightwing in one package. He is as strong and skilled as Bruce and as fast and agile as Dick but ontop of that he also has a radar senses and superhuman reaction time. H2H with out any weapons is DDs fight and he gets the majority of wins 7 perhaps even 8 out of 10. To think that Bruce can get the majority of wins in these fight is absurd.
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