i have seen Hulk.... handling Wonderman, Hercules, Iron-Man and Namor, the Sub-Mariner... at the same time......
on the other hand i ve heard , that Current Wonderman is stronger than ever (i ve seen his match against Abomination.... he really "owned" the Abomination... )
While both were extremely pissed off and at an equal level of strength, WM and the Hulk fought until Hulk punctured WM's skin, causing a nuclear explosion, resulting in the death of both of them. (Last Avengers Story)
Obviously Wonder Man was stronger than the Hulk, because, even with a hole in his chest, Hulk was unable to break WonderMan’s grip and escape.
Arkon, who fought Thor, says that he ver felt such mighty blows, even from Thor:
He did beat the blob in an avengers special
He did beat the abomination
He did beat namor in the avengers series.
He was toe to toe with hercules in the avengers series.
His fists have been compared on several occasions to Mjolnir in power.
He beat the shit out of 20 second-rate Ultrons at the same time.
Other than Hercules and Thor he is considered the strongest Avenger ever.
Has knocked out the Awesome Android in 2 punches.
Wonder Man’s fist is compared to Thor’s hammer:
Has destroyed It, the Living Colossus.
Has gone toe-to-toe with Pagan, who previously beat down all of the Avengers before WM arrived.
In JLA/Avengers got the better of Kyle Rayner - the Green Lantern!
He stopped a printing press that was set for 50,000 tons.
He lifted a Sky skraper, that was thrown at the Avengers by Nefaria
Note he said that Pagan was supposed to be as strong as Count Nefaria,
Durability feat. Knocked through a planet and then through a sun:
Last Avengers Story isn't in continuity. Even if it were, all it shows is that Wonder Man was strong enough to keep Hulk from escaping.
When Wonder Man fought Abomination, Tyrannus was inhabiting the body not Abomination. (Blonsky had been separated from the body.) Tyrannus was unfamiliar with Abomination's might and assumed he was totally invulnerable. The electrical shock stunned him and Wonder Man capitalized.
Wonder Man's fists have been compared to Mjolnir? Hulk has been said to be the strongest on Earth many times.
When Wonder Man was drilled through that planet and into the sun by Hyperion, it killed him.
I don't remember Simon catching a skyscraper thrown by Nefaria or going toe-to-toe with Pagan. I do remember Nefaria toppling a building and Wonder Man failing to stop it-- though he said it was because it would crumble if he pushed too hard.
Hulk's beaten Blob, Abomination (even when his power was doubled), It the Living Colossus, etc. etc. More importantly, Hulk's more than held his own against Avengers rosters that included Wonder Man. If this is Byrne/Milgrom-era Mindless, he was whipping up on Hercules, Wonder Man, Iron Man, Namor, and She-Hulk until his deteriorating health brought him down.
It's actually more of a feat than many of the silly ones that Hulk has. Such as holding up a mountain, without the mountain crumbling around him, or sinking into the ground below him.
The 50,000 ton press can be argued that it actually was made to withstand that pressure where WM was holding it.
It is supposed to be the future of the 616 timeline. So, these are the same characters. Just in a future setting.
Who cares? When everybody talks about the Hulk capitalizing on Gladiator's weakness to radiation, nobody yelled "Hey! No Fair! Hulk is capitalizing on that!"
Ok, so what are you saying? One thing says how strong the Hulk may be. The other thing says how powerful WM's punches are.
2 different things. Personally, in a fight, I would rather have the striking power of Mjolnir in my punches, than be able to lift a lot of weight.
Got news for ya, If you throw Hulk into the Sun, he is gonna die too.
The same can be said for WM. He has also taken on groups of top-tiers. As with Hulk's battle, it was non-conclusive. And, as I stated, WM also beat Abomination and It.
These guys are more evenly matched than you are saying they are.
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