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Kosmos vs Ion

Kosmos-Powers/Abilities: Vast ability to restructure reality. Kosmos is classified as a "minor omnipotent" (levels are detailed in one of her appearances), meaning that her power does not compare to the Celestials, Eternity, the Living Tribunal, etc

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Ion


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Re: Kosmos vs Ion

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Kosmos-Powers/Abilities: Vast ability to restructure reality. Kosmos is classified as a "minor omnipotent" (levels are detailed in one of her appearances), meaning that her power does not compare to the Celestials, Eternity, the Living Tribunal, etc


she's still stupid powerful,

what i find interesting is that, they always say cosmic cubes are on a global scale,
but when kubik went with the fantastic four to retcon beyonder's pocket universe, kubik not only defeated him but turned his reality into a pebble he nearly crushed between his fingers, now pocket universes are smaller than our own universe but surely far bigger than a planet.


what's ion's powers?

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I think Ion is serously out matched here


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Of course you do. He is a DC character after all.


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Well ain't you in here to fanboy DC?????????????????


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Well ain't you in here to fanboy DC?????????????????

Please golem. It doesn't take a genius to figure out you constantly sell DC characters way short of their abilities. This is pretty simple. Cube beings work on a most planetary scale. The Spectre himself told Ion he could alter reality on a universal scale.

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Ion had to power to change history and actually make it so Hal was never The Spectre. Do you know how much power it would take to interfere with The Spectreforce? Much more than Kosmos has.

This isn't even getting into the fact that Ion can replicate himself infinitely and exist in all places in the universe at the same time.


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I think the ability to restructure reality could do the same thing.


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The curret Kosmos might loose but If she add learned to use her powers to there full extent she would win IMO


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I think the ability to restructure reality could do the same thing.

On a planetary scale? You know you're being ridiculous.


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On a planetary scale? You know you're being ridiculous.


if cosmic cubes are planetary scale, how did Kubik(cosmic cube) transform the retcon beyonder's pocket universe into a pebble?

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[B This is pretty simple. Cube beings work on a most planetary scale. The Spectre himself told Ion he could alter reality on a universal scale. [/B]







i read that scan, nowhere does it say Ion has universal power, he can recreate history/time but this may be planetary, or even less.

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Because retconned Beyonder himself was just an incomplete cosmic cube? It would make sense for Kubik to be able to undo his work.


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What about the fact that Beyonder was able to kill Death?


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i read that scan, nowhere does it say Ion has universal power, he can recreate history/time but this may be planetary, or even less.

He could undo Hal's attachment to The Spectreforce. That's beyond planetary warping interfering with God's wrath and all. Then there's the whole omnipresence he had going for himself.


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What about the fact that Beyonder was able to kill Death?

Nice illusion.


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Yeah Right.


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That's a fact golem. All of Beyonder's high end feats were retconned into mere illusions he created for himself and others.


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Because retconned Beyonder himself was just an incomplete cosmic cube? It would make sense for Kubik to be able to undo his work.


i see that, but my complaint is his bio, "he can manipulate reality upto a global scale"
yet the retconned Beyonder's realm/pocket universe was much bigger than a planet(global scale), and he didn't just manipulate but turned it into a pebble,
besides that now that you mention it, it's even more marvel mixups,
retcon Beyonder was half a cosmic cube which means he has half global scale manipulation, yet he creates a pocket universe that could possibly have had hunderds to millions of planets.

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What about the fact that Beyonder was able to kill Death?


that was pre-retcon Beyonder

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