I love the Authority, but a lightning bolt drains Apollo's charge. One of those, and Cap could beat him.
Beyond that, Apollo at his highest charge is probably similar in power to Thor. But that's high-end Apollo vs. regular Thor. Once his charge starts to drain (it won't happen immediately, but eventually he'd start to wane a bit) Thor would have the clear advantage.
I could see him pulling off an upset (he has a few really cool feats, like lifting a skyscraper, clearing the entire moon with his heat-vision, and incinerating a bunch of super-types simply by emitting an aura of heat) but Thor still takes the majority.
I think the lightning only had a significant effect because Apollo was drained, If he Speddblitz's him close to the sun, via Carrier doors (similar to the Captain Atom, incident), I think Apollo could definitely win. Thor will not survive a 'sterilising moon' blast. Although i do think Thor maybe quite a bit stronger.
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Apollo has greater durability than Thor since when? Are you using low end Thor who gets hurt by bullets or high end Thor who can have a conversation in the sun? I guess the answer is obvious but it's still a bit unfair don't you think?
You're considerably underrating his durability along with the rest of his powerset. You're magnifying his low end showings in an attempt to prove he's below Apollo and Superman types.
Apollo is at least as strong as Wonder man / Namor and Iron man. All of the previous are capable of hurting Thor. Thor has been knocked over by Ultron's and Iron man's concussive force blasts. These are powered by a nuclear reactor, which is unlikely to be capable of Illuminating the moon. King Thor was decked by a Nuke, no where near as powerful as the Moon sterilising blast.
Superman is far beyond Apollo in the power department.
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He didn't sterilize the moon all at once. Yeah, it has an impressive spread effect, but he covered it over a period of time...not with one all-consuming blast. A nuke is definitely more powerful than Apollo's heat vision.
You'll have to show me where I said Apollo wasn't capable of hurting Thor but that still doesn't change the fact that you're highlighting Thor's low end feats and placing him against Apollo at his best. It's like me using the time Superman got knocked for a loop by an exploding gas station as evidence he's below Gladiator and Majestic.
Classic Thor has taken nukes without blinking an eye. Classic Thor has stood up to Firelord and Ghost Rider without taking visible damage. Classic Thor absorbed Phoenix's telepathic flame and KO'd her with it.
What happens when you put high end Thor against high end Apollo?
From any vantage point, he can't even see the whole moon. Hell, if he's anywhere within a couple hundred yards of the surface, he's only seeing a fraction of it. It's literally impossible for him to cover it all at once.
I realize it's not explicitly shown one way or the other, but it's just common sense that he wouldn't be able to.
He's has control over Photons, and he seems to be able to emit them at any point in space and time. You see the entire moon light up, at one point. You see this from an Earth perspective.
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Doubt all you want. It happened and thats all there is to it. For that matter King Thor wasn't disturbed by that nuke either. The only damage done was a torn shirt.
-"Any proof to suggest that either of these flames are on par with Apollos photokinesis?"
The fact that Firelord was bloodlusted as evidenced by his "Thor must die!" comments and the fact that Firelord is much stronger than Apollo is good enough for me. A bloodlusted Firelord can damage the Surfer who flies through suns to cleanse himself.
Fire lord is much stronger ? .... G.S. was pretty convinced that Firelord had class 50 strength, although i spent hours disagreeing with him.
'Doubt all you want. It happened and thats all there is to it. For that matter King Thor wasn't disturbed by that nuke either. The only damage done was a torn shirt.'
See that are interpretations vary. But I'd like to see scans of the Classic Thor survivinng a nuke.
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Stronger in the sense that his flame does more damage than Apollo's heat attacks. I don't know about physical strength but he does have hand to hand feats against top tiers so I'm sure its better than Class 50.
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