MR.Grum
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Current Iceman vs the Human torch
this will be the battel icey vs hot
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Jun 2nd, 2006 12:36 AM
Soljer
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Hmmm...is 'current' ice-man the Blair Wind iceman, or has he been depowered at all?
If not, then it is most assuredly a close battle (that has been done before).
If it is the human-snowball thrower, then it is OBVIOUSLY the Torch.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 12:41 AM
Black Adam
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iceman forms the Torches greatest weakness out of ice.
the beer bottle
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Jun 2nd, 2006 12:45 AM
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that's how new york gets down.........
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Jun 2nd, 2006 12:47 AM
MR.Grum
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mmm i likey chunnky
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Jun 2nd, 2006 12:51 AM
Lethal_Rise
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stale. torch could keep frying iceman, but he'd reform from water/gas, and iceman can't even phase HT's fire.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:32 AM
Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Black Adam
iceman forms the Torches greatest weakness out of ice.
the beer bottle
Yeah I never really understood that
Seriously Torch has taken beatings from Hulk, Thing, ect..
and yet getting hit on the head with a bear bottle KO's him?
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:34 AM
Grimm22
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Current Ice is not as powerful as he once was, so yeah stalemate.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:35 AM
Blair Wind
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says who? show me him being "depowered" all he lost was his secondary mutation....
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:36 AM
Black Adam
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grimm22
Yeah I never really understood that
Seriously Torch has taken beatings from Hulk, Thing, ect..
and yet getting hit on the head with a bear bottle KO's him?
maybe he's more vulnerable in human form.
Don't read f4 so I don't really know.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:37 AM
Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Black Adam
maybe he's more vulnerable in human form.
Don't read f4 so I don't really know.
Not that I know of
I mean his regular form is the same as his flame form.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:38 AM
Lethal_Rise
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both iceman and HT are immune to fire and ice while in human form.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:50 AM
Soljer
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One curiosity: is the Torch MADE of flame in his flame form, or simply bathed in it? If the latter, I'm sure his HUMAN body would still have to have water in it to function, seeing as he doesn't simply evaporate 125 pounds every time he transforms....
If so, couldn't this be a quick fight, with Iceman just freezing Torch's inside, rather than trying to combat his outside?
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:51 AM
drwerwer
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Well if im not mistaken cant iceman teleport. If he van teleport he can keep on just teleporting behind ht and hitting him with icebeams. Also iceman will be able to take human torch for a while siince he can just rebuild himelf. I think itt will be a draw to since if iceman did freeze him ht would just melt out.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:53 AM
Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Soljer
One curiosity: is the Torch MADE of flame in his flame form, or simply bathed in it? If the latter, I'm sure his HUMAN body would still have to have water in it to function, seeing as he doesn't simply evaporate 125 pounds every time he transforms....
If so, couldn't this be a quick fight, with Iceman just freezing Torch's inside, rather than trying to combat his outside?
Thats debatable as Iceman may not be able to do that anymore?
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:54 AM
drwerwer
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Although iceman could freeze him and really quickly shatter him with ice spikes.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:54 AM
Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by drwerwer
Well if im not mistaken cant iceman teleport. If he van teleport he can keep on just teleporting behind ht and hitting him with icebeams. Also iceman will be able to take human torch for a while siince he can just rebuild himelf. I think itt will be a draw to since if iceman did freeze him ht would just melt out.
True, but Torch can go Nova and THAT would evaporate any moisture that Iceman controls in the area
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:55 AM
Blair Wind
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grimm22
Thats debatable as Iceman may not be able to do that anymore?
please tell me where he got this myth of a depowerment?
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:56 AM
Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Blair Wind
please tell me where he got this myth of a depowerment?
Um, House of M
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:57 AM
Lethal_Rise
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Soljer
One curiosity: is the Torch MADE of flame in his flame form, or simply bathed in it? If the latter, I'm sure his HUMAN body would still have to have water in it to function, seeing as he doesn't simply evaporate 125 pounds every time he transforms....
If so, couldn't this be a quick fight, with Iceman just freezing Torch's inside, rather than trying to combat his outside?
to answer the first part of that, it's comics, so they can do what they want, and make science fictional. Same reason superman gets so many fuqin stupid powers.
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Jun 2nd, 2006 01:57 AM
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