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Flash vs SS without his board.

So, no going 100 billion times the speed of Light for Surfer. That's just freaking retarded.


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Surfer is basically as mobile as a human unless he amps himself to Flash's degree. I recall him being stuck in blood and thunder when he had his board carry an injured BRB.


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Great your back...stick out tongue Surfer still wins the majority.


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Flash steals all of his kinetic energy

Surfer immits all of his cosmic energy...

Flash = Dead big grin


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Surfer is basically as mobile as a human unless he amps himself to Flash's degree. I recall him being stuck in blood and thunder when he had his board carry an injured BRB.

Nope Surfer still has he reflexes and retarded as Super thinking,precog and a bunch of shit.


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Flash can absorb K-Energy, and so can Surfer. The difference is Surfer is better at it. There isn't an energy in the universe Surfer can't control, even magic.

I don't know how fast Surfer can run, but he still has lightspeed and greater reactions and reflexes. Anyone who can calculate the speed, size, weight and power of an astroid in less than a nanosecond has near or above LS reactions.


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reflexes yeah. Mobility, i dunno. he could always try to create something to ride on akin to terrax using rocks to travel like surfer


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reflexes yeah. Mobility, i dunno. he could always try to create something to ride on akin to terrax using rocks to travel like surfer

Surfer doesn't need to move a step to ko flash.He'll simply do an area attack and take him out.If Flash some how manages to out run the explosion Surfer can mind rape his ass.


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What's more important, running at near lightspeed or being able to react and calculate at above lightspeed? They seem equal to me.

Flash won't speed blitz since Surfer would see him as a normal if not slightly under a normal person in the speed depo.

If you have a fast car and that's about it, and you face a guy in a tank with no wheels but the tank has nukes and a time machine built in, who would win?


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What's more important, running at near lightspeed or being able to react and calculate at above lightspeed? They seem equal to me.

Flash won't speed blitz since Surfer would see him as a normal if not slightly under a normal person in the speed depo.

If you have a fast car and that's about it, and you face a guy in a tank with no wheels but the tank has nukes and a time machine built in, who would win?

Surfer.


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Surfer doesn't need to move a step to ko flash.He'll simply do an area attack and take him out.If Flash some how manages to out run the explosion Surfer can mind rape his ass.


problem is, once flash has momentum he might be fast enough to outrun something like that. Of course, if they were fighting on a planet he could alwasy blow it up or something and he has by far more chances to survive.


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What's more important, running at near lightspeed or being able to react and calculate at above lightspeed? They seem equal to me.

Flash won't speed blitz since Surfer would see him as a normal if not slightly under a normal person in the speed depo.

If you have a fast car and that's about it, and you face a guy in a tank with no wheels but the tank has nukes and a time machine built in, who would win?


well they seem equal in perceiving and reacting to things so they would probably handle it in a a slugfest or Surfer using his other abilities to his advantage. Eventually though Flash speeds would build up and exceed his, that's when it get's a bit wee more dangerous for surfer.


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problem is, once flash has momentum he might be fast enough to outrun something like that. Of course, if they were fighting on a planet he could alwasy blow it up or something and he has by far more chances to survive.

Yea but he's not out running a psi attack. Surfer's cosmic awareness lets him see the past,present and future it might be brief but that'll be enough to land a solid hit on Flash.


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problem is, once flash has momentum he might be fast enough to outrun something like that. Of course, if they were fighting on a planet he could alwasy blow it up or something and he has by far more chances to survive.

Ah, good to hear someone who has actually seen Flash's feats. In truth, Flash without momentum moves around just under the speed of sound.

Flash with a lot of momentum has nearly limitless speed since he's got the whole time altering stuff.

If Flash tries too hard to go too fast too soon, his speed will be greater than his reaction time which leaves him normally running into something.


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Ah, good to hear someone who has actually seen Flash's feats. In truth, Flash without momentum moves around just under the speed of sound.

Flash with a lot of momentum has nearly limitless speed since he's got the whole time altering stuff.

If Flash tries too hard to go too fast too soon, his speed will be greater than his reaction time which leaves him normally running into something.


I agree. If he fights stupid, there might a chance his reckless behaviour would get payed back. Engaging an enemy like SS without being near those levels is just plain dangerous(well not that much if it's former pacifist surfer)

of course, with the board things might not go like this.


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Ah, good to hear someone who has actually seen Flash's feats. In truth, Flash without momentum moves around just under the speed of sound.

Flash with a lot of momentum has nearly limitless speed since he's got the whole time altering stuff.

If Flash tries too hard to go too fast too soon, his speed will be greater than his reaction time which leaves him normally running into something.

has that actually happend? his running speed be faster the his reaction speed causing him to run into something.


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No need to say what he does is fighting stupid, it's just how his power works.

If he's seen before he gets some momentum, he's a statue to Surfer, albeit a statue that slowly starts to move faster and faster..


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i don't think his perception get's left whenever he reaches those speeds. He could still comprehend things right? It probably adjusts to the speed he is running at.


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has that actually happend? his running speed be faster the his reaction speed causing him to run into something.

Yes, many...MANY times.

He has to be smart and time his movements to where he canstay in control of where he goes.

Things I've seen Flash run into:
A poll
A person
A sword
A building
A well placed kick

He's even had to back track and move slower just because he was moving too fast to see the world around him. Case in point: He ran past a guy in the snow, he had to run back to see who it was because to him "Everything was a blur".


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Another thing What happens if Surfer manipulates the Gravity?


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