i don't really think it matter where the fight takes place..sabretooth rips scorpion limb from retarded limb.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
That is silly logic.
Spiderman has proven faster and, in my opinion, a better fighter than Wolverine. Wolverine has beaten Sabertooth.
Scorpion has been able to trash Spiderman.
I say Scorps is too fast, strong, and armored for Sabertooth.
Scorps wins.
scorpions been able to trash spiderman once.. people often recall the one good display of power he had and mistake that as a majority case.. well it's not.. here on thse boards that's called PIS... spiderman later knocked him out in 3 hits... spiderman also COMMONLY refers to him as a joke, a b-list villain, and a loser...
and no spiderman needs to beat wolverine to be a better fighter than wolverine.. he hasn't... so he's not. he is faster though.. but wolverine's irrelivent here... sabretooth is wolverine's superior in every way.... i repeat... EVERY WAY... (save skills).. wolverine loses more often to sabretooth than the other way around. bad analysis and comparison my friend...
now sabretooth on the other hand.. in his classic days he KOed rogue and outslugged ms. marvel.. he's had three upgrades since then and is currently killing wendigo's and plucking speedsters out of the air... scorpion really has no advantages on sabes xept for a range attack.. which may not eve prove useful to him.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
All I know, is that without the extensive skills Logan has, Spiderman has been able to match him.
That, to me, says that SM's inate skills and attributes, make him a better fighter.
And, in my opinion, the most important meeting they ever had, ended up with Spiderman FIRST having the ability to wrench Logans neck, which would, while not breaking his neck, would have severed his all-too-human spinal cord. And, as you guys have said, since SM IS faster than Logan, I say he had the opporntunity to kill Logan, BEFORE Logan was able to bring his claws into play, ending in a stalemate.
And, even if it WAS only once, Scorps has defeated Spidey, and matched him several other times. Which Logan has NOT done.
Anyway, sorry if I ruffled yer feathers about Sabertooth. First of all, I know plenty about him. Second, do not bring the Wendigo deal up to me, because I think that is just more X-Trash writing. It should end up being explained as a "Dream Sequence" eventually. But, all you guys that are typing right now, while wearing Creed-covered undies, just stay cool. I won't go any farther.
My entire point was, that Spidey, Logan and Sabertooth are all roughly at the same level.
And, Scorps deserves a place right there by them. And, occasionally, higher.
Like now.
Last edited by Horrificus on Sep 28th, 2006 at 03:12 AM
BECAUSE he has super powers...
even though he's lost the majorityof their confrontations.. or looked worse in comparsion?
why is THAT their most important meeting? because it fits with your opinion instead of with what's consistent?
because spiderman gave it his all, and wolverine looked worse for holding back?
also: severed...
would it? really?
again.. sabretooth ALREADY TRIED... he did the EXACT same thing that spiderman was going to attempt.. logan was still fighting back.. the attack DID NOTHING.
IF logan had his claws out when he tackled spiderman.. IF logan had them out when he punched spiderman in the face then there wouldn't have been a "stalemate" to begin with.. and again it wasn't a stalemate.. wolverine would have killed spidey.. spidey WOULD HAVE FAILED trying to do the same.
so when logan ended up in a "stalemate" in which only logan could have delivered the final blow that wasn't a win by default?
when logan had the change to put his claws into spiderman's face and he didn't that wasn't matching spiderman?
when logan stabbed spiderman and knocked him out via blood loss that wasn't an outright win?
when logan flip kicked spiderman in the balls and left him a huddled over mass of unconcious that wasn't a superior showing? yes wolverine certainly has NOT done thse things..
why not?
and yet scorpions ONE good showing is perfectly acceptable?
he'll be deserving of such a place when he earns one...
cap has punched him out in 5 panals.. he's nothing special.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
yup.. 3 of their fights can be found around pages 60-80 of the spiderman vs. cap/daredevil/wolverine thread.. but I don't have the scans off hand.. if you look up that thread they'll be around there somewhere... the flip kick into spiderman's groin... i'm not sure where i posted that..
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Wolverine's most potent power, when fighting "real" heroes, is that he is able to go full out, slicing, stabbing, and doing pretty much anything he feels like doing, (which is an enviable triat with a lot of people who suffer from low-honor count, and a condition known as "thinkitus coolicus 2 beathugitus". I'm sorry for my shabby latin.)
Anyway, to my mind, any time I see Logan in a fight against a character that has been written in a way that shows they are trying to accomplish a non-lethal, or non-maiming victory, I will always give them points over Wolverine.
Spidey and Cap hold back. They were written in a time when it was a good thing to be known as a "Good Guy". They were written to be heroes.
Logan is a "garbage" character that caters to the portion of Marvel's client-base who are striving to achieve a "Thug-Mentality".
Spidey holds back. Cap is NOT a psycho. They do not relish blood and butchery.
Yeah, you don't see Spidey and Cap doing a lot of groin attacks or stabbings.
That must be a "weakness".
Dude, you are proving my point, although I can tell that you are not even able to see my point. You are too enraptured by the "berserker violence" thing.
I thought it was agreed that Spidey was faster than Wolvie. If so, then he had Logan around the neck first. Even if Logan stabbed Spidey, that isn't an instant kill.
But, getting your spinal cord torn in half usually has immediate results!
And, no, the bones do not need to break for this to happen.
Spidey would have killed Logan, if the places were switched.