i saw only one fight when wolverine and cardiac fought and wolverine didn't really win cardiac just hits a building with his staff and the building felt on him but nothing that wolverine did
he never shown class 25 strength. unless you can prove ti with scanns. he not gunan beat Logan. he also ahs only human reflexes which will put him at a huge disavantage
actaully that was form the issue
wolverine vs the marvel universe. wolverine hit cardiac staff up in the air in which case it cause the biudlign to fall on him. actaully Logan body was being controlled by an alien life form at the time. Funny thing was if it was logan fighting he would of taken him out even faster.
wolverne also faught cardiac again later becuase cardiac and solo wanted revenge for what logan did and logan who was trying to not hurt them both was kicking there butts.
again i don't have many scans of him but he did beat spider-man
his staff can make electric bolts
he can melt metal with his electronic shocks
his skin is bulletproof
he does have super human strength and the proof for that is when he was fighting wolverine and made a building collapse from a hit with his staff
he also has super human speed and agility so he is faster then wolverine
and if you are so much into proves and scans then show me scans where wolverine takes him out otherwise it never happened
[ again i don't have many scans of him but he did beat spider-man[/QUOTE]
Why does this matter? He has lost to Logan twice?
I new this already.
Prove it. Not like it help him any ways.
He never made the building collapse. He was not even the one to make the pole hit the building. Logan was the one who knocked the staff out of his hand and into the building were pieces of it fell off. It was the staffs electric powers the caused this nothing to do with strength.
Wolverine ahs superhuman agility and reflex so no he not. It even said in your bio he has only normal human reflex. Logan has superior reflexes and agility unless you can prove other wise.
I don’t have a scanner, but I do have the issue. (The marvel universe vs. WOLVERINE #134)
thanks I could not fully remeber the second fight. that's not the whole fight you showed though, i thought he battled solo for a while and throws a dumbster at him. been a while since ive read the second battle
Last edited by Dum Dum Dugan on Oct 2nd, 2006 at 11:23 PM
first of all cardiacs fight vs wolverine in wolverine #134 wasn't even a fight i mean cardiacs staff hits a building and it falls on cardiac thats it wolverine never won , and again it was the same stupid issue where wolverine took out ms marvel cannonball human torch and half of marvel universe its every wolverines fanboy wet dream but its crap
and the other fight you talk about show some scans to prove it if you don't believe to people and demand scans so be it show me some of wolverine taking him out
and again he is super agile and fast and super strong as you can see in his fights with spider-man , he can project electric bolts that can melt metal ... so you see if cardiac will have a well written fight with wolverine he should take him out, he did beat spider-man and spider-man is much faster then wolverine so if spider-man got hit by his electric shots then wolverine is going to get thousands of them , and then he beats the crap out of wolverine with his staff and both he and gambit play snooker with wolverines head
About that first Cardiac/Wolverine fight... the staff flies up, hits the wall and colapses it... .... the power comes from Cardiac's artificial heart, through his hands ... he just uses the staff to focus the blasts better... the wall never should have been damaged