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Jean Grey is a very accomplished astral fighter, the soul and the astral form are synonymous, I doubt it will be that easy. Her telepathy has been shown to be very effective against magical/supernatural beings like Nightmare, Rutai, The Goblyn Queen, and Ogun.
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This is merely Jean Grey without channeling Phoenix, she is a very accomplished telekinetic/telepath, the soulself is still an astral projection a purely psychic construct, and can be dealt with by telepathic energy. There is a fine line between psionic and mystical energy, a powerful psi can do just about anything a magic user can do, through sheer force of will. And I thought it was the collective souls of Azar that ultimately defeated Trigon. Jean also has the advantage of telekinesis which she can use, both being psi talents their powers work at about the same speed, but Raven is only an empath, while Jean is the second most powerful telepath of her world.
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In the very first issue of Xmen Jean easily levitated Beast, spun him around and dropped him, she also (in the same issue) telekinetically plucked missiles from the air and directed then into the sea.
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Trigon was banished not destroyed then he came back and the souls of Azar channeled their power through Raven and that is how he was destroyed. If the soulself is all Raven has to offer then she hardly stands a chance against a telekinetic telepath of the highest order. (I had to edit because of my first sentence forgive my ignorant use of the english language if in fact anybody read before the edit)
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only if you read up on what Jean can do, and since we're all reading there is no such thing as Jean without Phoenix. Being a telepath Jean could sense Ravens intent and crush her telekintically before she sends out that soulself, if Ravens soulself surives and goes on to kill Jean well, we all know what happened the first time Jean died, Phoenix was born.
Oh god you just cant keep the Phoenix Fanboys out can you? Raven has spells that are mroe then capable of taking jean out as often as she comes back. Back when they fought she almost went toe to to and she wasnt even half as experianced at magic as she is now.
Get over the Phoenix Fanlove already.
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Call me what you want, there is only one true Phoenix fanboy on this forum and I am not it, what there seems to be more than anything else are Phoenix anti-fanboys, there is not a spell in creation that can keep the Phoenix from rising or resurrecting Jean and if there is Jean can make her forget it just as fast as she can slam her ass around with telekinesis.