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Is Superman above the top tier?

Really?

I mean, chances are hes beaten or stalemated your favorite character from DC, so long as its another hero.

His average from 99 to present has been pretty high, due to cockstroke, i mean Jeph Loeb writing.

He's been shown as probably the most competent hero in DC, next to Batman, Robin and the other Batbooks(Nightwing not included).

Do you think he's above the top tier?

Even if you don't feel its true, could you see how some might come to that conclusion?

All mainstream companies are game.

Oct 23rd, 2006 03:06 PM

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Superman has, and always will have that all mighty plot device behind him. Is it really even possible for him to loose?

In DC I really dont see anyone under Spectre being able to beat Supes lol

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Thank God for Alex Ross

I like the way he views the DC Universe

No Hero is greater then the other... kinda...

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Superman when all said and done is DC's earths Super Hero where Marvel has teams like Avengers Defenders X-Men Alpha Flight and others

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Yeah I kinda noticed that lol.

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superman is the superheroes hero, he fights to save people as well as other heroes, and to answer the question, he sort of dips between top tier to higher levels, when the moment strikes anyway, then he comes back down to top tier... that's about it

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In a couple of years Superman will surpass God. smile

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at the graph.

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at the graph.

Its a graph, when are they ever wrong? smile

Very good.

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In a couple of years Superman will surpass God.

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so true this is dc logic

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Re: Is Superman above the top tier?

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Do you think he's above the top tier?

No.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by UniOmni
Even if you don't feel its true, could you see how some might come to that conclusion?

Sure, doesn't make them right but sure. Every top tier has above top tier feats. That's part of what it means to be top tier. They're the best of the best and in certain situations can do what nobody else can.

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In a couple of years Superman will surpass God.

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Too true.

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I think that we too often ignore the (very) occasional bad showings he has. Captain Marvel has equaled him, Hal has beaten him. Plenty of team-wreckers show up and Supes can't just plot-device his way through it (Darkseid being an unfortunate exception).

The jobber aura remains, but I think the embellishment-loving culture we have here on KMC has allowed us to aim a bit too much criticism at DC for their portrayal of Kal. He's supposed to be an unequaled brawler....so occasionally it's just him being written to form, though I won't deny that the shoddy writing and PIS still exist far too much.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by MattDay
superman is the superheroes hero, he fights to save people as well as other heroes, and to answer the question, he sort of dips between top tier to higher levels, when the moment strikes anyway, then he comes back down to top tier... that's about it

-Heres God-
-Heres Supes-

-Heres where the rest of DC continuity starts- roll eyes (sarcastic)

Supes is all DC earth really has, IMO this is why he will never be truly beaten..... which is crap!

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Captain Marvel should beat Superman everytime... no expression

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
I think that we too often ignore the (very) occasional bad showings he has. Captain Marvel has equaled him, Hal has beaten him. Plenty of team-wreckers show up and Supes can't just plot-device his way through it (Darkseid being an unfortunate exception).

Too true. Listen to guys here and Superman has never had a bad day in life or if he has, theres a million excuses for it.

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Captain Marvel should beat Superman everytime...

And twice on sundays.

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Too true. Listen to guys here and Superman has never had a bad day in life or if he has, theres a million excuses for it.

The primary one being the fact that since the characters are fighting to the best of their abilities, that means that NO low showings count.

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i just hered the guy immune to friggin kryptonite magic and red solar energy and now has telepathic powers as if he could get any crappier

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quote: (post)
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Captain Marvel should beat Superman everytime...

Nah.

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