No prep? Loki wins. Loki's powerful... but Loki's magic has been able to amp Surfer to incredible levels before...
I'd put Loki > Dr. Strange...
and Dr. STrange > Dr. Doom.
if you gave them prep.. doom wins though. not very many beat doom in the prep game.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Surfer was beating up pretty much all the asgardians by himself... he even commented on how powerful he had become...
*edit* it was back in the first volume of surfer comics i believe... like issue 4 or something. I was reading it a few weeks ago.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
I know, I read it, and I'm like, hey, those bastards lied to me.
Surfer beat Thor's ass in that comic.
Still, I don't know exactly how powerful he had become. Prep is one of the biggest plot devices in this forum... but if needed, both combatants get a half day of prep.
Threadmaker said no prep. but since you had to go and say it...
half a day's prep... knowing who your enemy is a god? Doom breaks into Tony STarks vault... steals the Thorbuster... strips down the uru metal... to add it to his suit to protect himself against asgardian magic... that was during his first 8 hours of prep... for his next 4 he can spend it casting defensive spells... increasing his shields integrity...
Dr. Doom wins.
Loki spent the half day trying to figure out ways to defeat thor... and forgets he's supposed to fight doom... he walks in unprepared!
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
For certain characters, prep is not a plot device, rather IT IS their power. Doom is Doom because he is so intelligent and always plans for every possible occurrence. Taking away Doom's prep skills is akin to saying Wolerine without ability to heal, or Thor without Mjolnir, or Hulk without ability to get stronger. You would be removing an essential part of what makes the character who he is.
I agree with this... to an extent.
You see Doom is an extremely powerful character without prep.
Hell he even came in second next to Strange in a magic compitition.
He has that electricity thing going for him, and he has the ability to change bodies. He has extreme duribility, he even took Thanos blasting him with the power gem, and only had his clothes ripped off.
Doom's prep isn't exactly his power, but an addition to his already great power.
This is why I thought it would be a good fight without prep, too bad others didn't agree with me.
Does anyone remember Acts Of Vengence?
Loki used every villian for his own schemes.
In the end he punked all the major villians by himself.
Easily.
Doom was smart enough not to be anywhere near Loki.
The only way Doom could beat Loki is with A LOT of prep
and a totally unsuspecting Loki. The only reason why Thor can
take Loki is because of Mjolnir. NO ONE on Earth can fight and
beat Loki one-on-one. Too powerful and too intelligent.
Ya, I just read the one where Surfer fights Thor.
Loki was able to fight with Surfer until Surfer started to try a little.
He was able to posess Balder, a random guy, and give powers to Surfer.
I change it to Doom gets a half day of prep. Loki gets 2 minutes to find out that he is about to fight.
P.S. your pic isn't working.
Loki's magic is extremely powerful and even greater than Dr. Strange.
Plus superhuman Asgardian physiology.
Like I said....NO ONE on Earth has beaten Loki one-on-one.
Thor can do it ONLY cause of Mjolnir.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
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Loki vs Dr Doom
Nov 9th, 2006 04:31 AM
