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reality manipulator vs. matter manipulator

a guy who manipulates matter on a planetary scale against a guy who can manipulate reality on a planetary scale. no difference in imagination or creativity.... who wins?

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a guy who manipulates matter on a planetary scale against a guy who can manipulate reality on a planetary scale. no difference in imagination or creativity.... who wins?

Reality wins. He controls the laws of physics, even time. IT's like putting HOM Scarlet Witch against the Molecule man. She wins everytime.

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so basically what you are asking is Proteus vs Silver Surfer???


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Re: Re: reality manipulator vs. matter manipulator

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Reality wins. He controls the laws of physics, even time. IT's like putting HOM Scarlet Witch against the Molecule man. She wins everytime.


Actually I'd call it a draw... few people have grasped the power of the reality gem. Even scarlet witch had no idea what she was doing with it.

Thanos himself said that few could grasp the limits of its power.

That said... Scarlett witch HOM... is too mentally unstable to handle a multiversal such as molecule man. Powerwise I'd say about equal, maybe giving a little to SW... but in ability to use the power... i'd give it to molecule man.


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Get bent. Go drown. Slide down a slide of razors. Chew bricks. Inhale bees, and then kiss a frozen pole with your tongue.

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Re: reality manipulator vs. matter manipulator

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a guy who manipulates matter on a planetary scale against a guy who can manipulate reality on a planetary scale. no difference in imagination or creativity.... who wins?
The Reality Manipulator could make the Matter manipulator whatever he wanted, he could also make it so the Matter manipulator never existed

IMO reality manipulation takes this


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Get bent. Go drown. Slide down a slide of razors. Chew bricks. Inhale bees, and then kiss a frozen pole with your tongue.



Awww, I didn't know you cared.

It'll be fun around the forums, till you get too shamed to show your face again.


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Awww, I didn't know you cared.

It'll be fun around the forums, till you get too shamed to show your face again.

Shamed to show my face?!!!. Shows what you know. I started my 2nd job, training for a body building contest, and started my master's program, that is why I haven't been on. And I'll be leaving shortly enough. I see that your conversion to Master Heads is complete. There is no need to argue against an entire board of the marvel u is an omniverse and bigger so nah heads. Nice talking to you, i'm gone for another 6 months.

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reality manipulater [planetary] imagines earth is lifeless xcept for No.1. Reality manipulator ftw.

enough bitching.

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reality > matter.

but really depends on level of reality vs level of matter M.

But there are very few reality manipulators who are extremly powerful.

on the other hand there are lots of people able to Matter Manipulate like SS.


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Awww, I didn't know you cared.

It'll be fun around the forums, till you get too shamed to show your face again.
Don need to be so mean all the time...everyone should geta 2nd chance...


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Re: Re: reality manipulator vs. matter manipulator

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Reality wins. He controls the laws of physics, even time. IT's like putting HOM Scarlet Witch against the Molecule man. She wins everytime.


are you kidding?

post retcon Molecule Man is a Cosmic Cube level being. His definition of of reality manipulation makes what the Scarlet Witch does look like baking cookies.

pre retcon Molecule Man was more powerful than the LT, possibly if the Beyonder could be taken at his word more powerful than TOAA.

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the reality manipulator wins hands down btw


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pre retcon Molecule Man was more powerful than the LT.

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possibly if the Beyonder could be taken at his word more powerful than TOAA.
Beyonder never said MM was more powerful then TOAA, in fact, Beyonder never even mentioned TOAA.


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Beyonder never said MM was more powerful then TOAA, in fact, Beyonder never even mentioned TOAA.

Not even once.

MM, by the way, was able to warp more then matter. He could warp energy, spacetime, all sorts of things.

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The pre retcon Beyonder stated that the Molecule Man was the most powerful being other after himself in"this" reality.

Does TOAA exist in some other reality besides the Marvel Omniverse and the pre retcon Beyonder verse?


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reality manipulator would have an easier time, but matter manipulation would require quite a bit more imagination to acheieve the same effect. so providing that the reality controller isnt bat shit insane as they usually are, id go with that one as well


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The Mater Manipulaters could just turn a reality warper into a statue or piece of cheese. I mean in reality both can be quite strong.

One can make it so you never existed while the other can change the fundamental fabric space.

Although I would say that Reality Wapers have more range and scope with their powers


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