This battle actually happened TWICE in continuity. Strange beat Ghost Rider, more or less, with a wave of his hand.
'If Strange can do it once, he can do it again.'
Besides, Strange losing to Ghost Rider was because Strange was totally unaware of Ghost Rider attacking him. Strange curbstomps the ol Flaming Skull. 10/10.
1. Current Portrayal takes priority over whatever previous incarnation you're citing especially if you're citing especially if you're citing "Classic" Dr. Strange. Just look at Dr. Strange's most current portrayal in "Illuminati #1". He's no longer the god-like figure you're making him out to be. He's been toned down by Marvel.
2. Don't mock me with word play.
3. "Totally unaware of Ghost Rider attacking him" is a pretty funny interpretation since Dr. Strange was fighting Ghost Rider head-on was fighting for 15 pages.
Perhaps you could tell me where exactly Dr. Strange was "unaware of fighting Ghost Rider". In fact, Dr. Strange is the one that confronts Ghost Rider head-on. Are you insinuating that Dr. Strange is blind? Perhaps during the whole ordeal of 15 pages of battle, Dr. Strange thought he was having tea with Santa and the easter bunny? I have the comic here, you tell me.
All that matters, is that at the end of the battle, Dr. Strange was wrapped up in chains and completely restrained, had his mouth gagged, and Ghost Rider was an inches away from Dr. Strange's face staring directly into his eyes with the penance stare.
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Last edited by Evangel94 on Dec 29th, 2006 at 03:47 AM
The only point of yours that matters is the first. Where, on panel, in the comics, has he received an official 'downgrade'?
Please, by all means, put the scans up!
If you can't seem to find them, then it would seem that Strange still makes time his *****, and can absorb infinite magical energies from the universe around him.
Who are you to say none of my points matter? That's a simple "cop-out" to avoid actually addressing anything I said. I'm not putting up scans just to get pulled into a "scan war" with you. If you're an avid reader of Dr. Strange, and have seen his portrayals throughout the years, then you should know he's been all over the place in terms of power. He's gone from universal manipulator to being unable to fend off simple physical attacks. He isn't as powerful today as he's been during Marvel's "Silver" or "Bronze Age".
Ghost Rider v3 #3 and Illuminati #1 are the most current depictions of Dr. Strange, and with those most current portrayals, it doesn't even nearly put him at the "God-level" character you're making him out to be.
Until you actually logically address the points I said two posts above, then my all my points still stand. There's no need for me to repeat anything again and again.
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Last edited by Evangel94 on Dec 29th, 2006 at 04:09 AM
because its not his own book. but strange has never been depowered officially, and i dont think he ever will.
Current fights dont mean shit, they are 1-and 1. Ghost Rider got one Strange got one. But Strange tends to be a little higher than GR on the FEAT scale, so im going to have to give the fight to DR considering GR has shown nothing close to Stranges power.
and Firelord lost to spiderman.....we gonna count that too?
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Wait, so you're saying that since Dr. Strange hasn't had his own book since 1996, that we should totally ignore anything he's done since then because all his appearances have taken place in other books in which Dr. Strange is not the main character?
How can you not be aware of a six foot flaming skeleton with chains smacking you around. He didn't just fight Strange. He took some of his higher spells and still got up, and hit him with the Penance Stare. It seems like Blaze is gonna get a powerup. He already can traverse between Hell and Earth, but hasn't learned how to control it yet.
Either drop it or apologize to me. It seems highly hypocritical for you to continually bring it up, if you think it's in violation of the forum rules. You, yourself would be "off-topic" and would be violating the own rule you're trying to use to justify yourself.
Yeah, exactly. Dr. Strange was "totally aware" of who he was fighting. What does Ghost Rider catching Dr. Strange by "surprise" have to do with anything? Dr. Strange let his guard down when he thought he finished Ghost Rider off. It was Dr. Strange's mistake.
It's simple and not that hard to accept. Based off current portrayals, Dr. Strange isn't as powerful as he was before, and got overpowered by Ghost Rider.
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Last edited by Evangel94 on Dec 29th, 2006 at 04:29 AM
Continually bring what up? I'm really confused by this first paragraph, to be quite honest. . I don't see where I tried to attack you, or....insult you, or do anything to apolgize for. What happened, what did I miss?
Doctor Strange let his guard down for the sake of the plot. What is it called when things happen for the sake of the plot?
Magneto CAN be stabbed and killed by Wolverine if Wolverine catches Magneto unaware and without a shield up.
Does that mean that Wolverine would take Magneto in a forum battle? Absolutely not.
Strange will be fighting to the best of his ability here, and that means he won't be making a stupid mistake like letting all of his guards down against a foe as great as Ghost Rider.
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. I don't see where I tried to attack you, or....insult you, or do anything to apolgize for. What happened, what did I miss? 
