Nightwing is leagues ahead of night thrasher in terms of skill and experience. it's not even a contest.
the only thing that remotely evens this out is that thrash's armor is pretty durable vs. standard kicks and punches, and he's been known to carry an Uzi and will shoot to kill if he has to.
This was among his debut start. He didn't beat him but handled himself well. The point is that I don't believe it being such a mismatch. Night also heads up his own team. I don't see him getting his ass handed to him that easily
Glad you got a tickle out of that. Dunno where exactly the comedy came into play according to what I said but hey whatever works for ya. I still say Night thrasher all the way
I dont know about that. In one New warriors issue he took out a group of superhuman on his own. One of the guys strength was from 70-90 tons. Thrasher dodged his blows and chucked gas in his face. Another superhuman could fly and was firing energy blast at him, Night Thrasher dodged the blasts and knocked her out in mid air by aiming one of his sticks at her head.
I cant remember the rest, it was a long time ago, but it was a pretty good showing.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
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New Warriors #23 I think that was (may have been 22, it was the during the "Nothing but the truth" storyline, where Tai turns out to be evil)
Team was the folding circle, consisting of:
The Big Guy was Bloodstrike, big bruiser, went toe to toe with Rage I would say he was a class 80.
The flying woman was Silk Fever, pryokinetic powers
Then there was Left hand, could use the Dark Force in offensive blasts
Smiling Tiger, Wolverine rip off, enhanced, speed, agility and claws.
The there was Midnights Fire, enhanced speed, awesome martial artist, able to punch through Thrashers armour with his fists.
Thrash held them all until Midnight, blind sided him, Thrasher is way underrated, when he fought the Punisher he managed to stab in through the thigh and Frank said how good he was.
In fact the only thing that saved Frank was he shot him with a submachine gun at point blank range breaking his ribs through his armour.
Thrasher has taken Gideon (who he owned in hand to hand during four control) Gideon you may remember handled Crule pretty easily in X force and also trained Sunspot.
As he had no super human powers to copy it came down to skill, Thrash was better.
With the Warriors, he has taken on Terrax, Juggernaut, Sphinx, in the Spiderman/new Warriors annual, he fought Boomerang and Blacklash at the same time and held his own.
He went one on one with an assassin called Bengal who was an expert Martial artist at one point he was involved in a three way fight with Punisher and Bengal.
He taken Aardwolf one on one, who was another feral, enhanced speed and strength, with claws and teeth type guy.
Hes gone up against the FF along with the Warriors, was quick enough to grab and flip Nova when he came at him full throttle.
He took on Midnights Fire one on one and beat him, there are lots more examples of him showing his skill but thats all I can think of, off the top of my head.
There is nothing to suggest he is far below Nightwing, skills wise and his armour and the gadgets it has, gives him an advantage.
I will see if I can find some scans on the net, as I have no scanner but this should be a close fight, Thrasher is similar to Batman, in that he lost his parents when he was very young and has been training all his life to fight crime.
He is also backed by a vast personal fortune, is a tactician and pretty intelligent (although not on Bruce's level) and likes to use gadgets and isn't afraid to fight dirty.
Yeah I was gonna mention Gideon, but I didnt have the issue were they fought. I looked on gideons bio and i didnt see anything about martial arts skills. Apparently gideon can copy talents so I thought that he would have copied thrashers talents.
I was gonna mention Punisher....but he doesnt get enough props.
P.S. Id second that you are a good poster.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
- General George Patton Jr
I guess Thrasher would win because his suit gives him more durability and strength. The reason why he built the suit was to fight Midnights Fire who has peak human stats.
I wished they hadnt killed Night Thrasher....I liked him.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
- General George Patton Jr
I liked him too, they could have taken his character so much further in his solo series, it just came at the wrong time, mid 90's when Marvel was bankrupting itself.
Thrashers armour definetly gives him an edge, I would say Thrasher was slightly below Nightwing, skills wise but only slightly but the armour has that many toys in it.
Here is a rundown of what hes packing.
Pepper Spray: Fires from right wrist.
3 Plastic Packs:
3 Napalm Gel Packs:
3 Cordite Packs:
Magnesium Flare:
Smoke Pellets:
Spur Jacks:
Incendiary Caps:
Ball Bearings:
Spring Blade:
Adamantium Garrote: From his left wrist.
Helmet: contains the following
Voice Scrambler:
Telescopic Vision:
Rebreather: 5 minutes of air.
Infra-Vision: .
Camera/ Filmpack:
Enhanced Hearing:
Backpack: Has the following features:
Escrima: Has 2 detachable Escrima sticks
Pistol: Hidden Uzi.
Skateboard: Locked on the Backpack assembly or on the right fore arm. can be used as a shield. It has a spring loaded blade hidden in the front.
Oh and thanks for the compliments!
Edit: Oh your right about Gideon not being a big martial artist, I have seen him listed as a boxer and he taught Sunspot how to use his powers offensively and wasn't a bad hand to hand fighter, plus he was stronger than Thrasher.
It stands out for me because it was the first time I saw Gideon get a beat down, previously he had wrecked the New Warriors using their own powers against them, KO'd Sunspot and handled Crule who was the big bad warrior external.
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