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Starscream M
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Wolverine without Healing Factor!

His insane healing factor has been reduced to the level of Captain America's healing level. All his other attributes remain unchanged (strength, adamantium skeleton and claws, senses, etc)

Assume for this fight that he can use his claws without bleeding.

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Which of the following heroes can Wolverine without Healing Factor take for the majority?

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Special conditions:
Punisher has a handgun and a dagger.
Batman only has regular batarangs and grappling hook.

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Probably all of them . . .

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Wouldn't his reduced healing factor mean that he'd pretty much bleed to death if he "popped" his claws?

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Wouldn't his reduced healing factor mean that he'd pretty much bleed to death if he "popped" his claws?

No, for this fight assume that he can still use his claws without any ill effects.

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Wouldn't his reduced healing factor mean that he'd pretty much bleed to death if he "popped" his claws?

Would take a while probably.

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No, for this fight assume that he can still use his claws without any ill effects.

What kind of gadgets/weapons are we talking about for Punisher and Batman?

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The funny thing is that Punisher has the worst shot at this, and yet he has the best chance at the same time...

One bullet could be the deciding factor, and if he doesn't get it, his head is gone.

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Originally posted by darthgoober
What kind of gadgets/weapons are we talking about for Punisher and Batman?

Punisher has a handgun and a dagger.

Batman only has regular batarangs and grappling hook.

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Apr 15th, 2007 01:27 AM

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now I am assumign wolverine had time to get use to not having a healing factor?

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Punisher has a handgun and a dagger.

Batman only has regular batarangs and grappling hook.

In that case...

Cap takes it 8-9/10.
Daredevil takes it 7-8/10
Batman takes it 6-7/10
Punisher takes it maybe 4/10

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now I am assumign wolverine had time to get use to not having a healing factor?

yes.

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In that case...

Cap takes it 8-9/10.
Daredevil takes it 7-8/10
Batman takes it 6-7/10
Punisher takes it maybe 4/10

remeber wolverine is use to not having a healing factor.

If thats the case then wolverine could likly take the majority from every single one of those guys.

Apr 15th, 2007 01:43 AM

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remeber wolverine is use to not having a healing factor.

If thats the case then wolverine could likly take the majority from every single one of those guys.

Did you just say he could defeat Batman... shifty

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If thats the case then wolverine could likly take the majority from every single one of those guys.

haha Capt, you're such a hardcore Wolverine fan, you crack me up laughing

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Apr 15th, 2007 01:46 AM

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haha Capt, you're such a hardcore Wolverine fan, you crack me up

what so funny?

None of those guys have a single advantage over wolverine..........besides in batmans case intilligence.....which is useless in combat........

Apr 15th, 2007 01:49 AM

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what so funny?

None of those guys have a single advantage over wolverine..........besides in batmans case intilligence.....which is useless in combat........

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Apr 15th, 2007 01:50 AM

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what so funny?

None of those guys have a single advantage over wolverine..........besides in batmans case intilligence.....which is useless in combat........

Batman holds speed, fighting, damage soak (Superman, Grundy, Wonder Woman, etc), and of course, batkickery over Wolverine.

Apr 15th, 2007 01:51 AM

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still not getting it..........

whats so funny.........

I would really like you to explain to me what you find so funny, though I bet I already know.

Apr 15th, 2007 01:52 AM

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remeber wolverine is use to not having a healing factor.

If thats the case then wolverine could likly take the majority from every single one of those guys.

Yes but unfortunately I haven't seen a lot of Wolverine with no healing factor, and I can't credit him with anything that I haven't seen. I remember when he had his adamantium ripped out, and he didn't show a lot of skill beyond what he normally does in anything I saw(though there wasn't a lot of his comics I checked out from that period I'll admit).

Now I personally give Cap a SLIGHT(can't stress that point to much) majority over Wolverine with his healing factor. So without it, I can see Cap taking it without to much trouble.

Wolverine's healing factor is what provides him with some degree of protection from pressure point strikes, which means that he's going to be vulnerable to them and just about everyone on the list is proficient with their use.

Wolverine DOES still have his speed however, which is why he's got the majority over Punisher(who I only see shooting Wolverine with a lucky shot), and only loses a slight majority to Batman. But now that I think about it, I'll reduce Bat's to an even split with Wolverine 5/10, because of his lack of equipment.

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