If champion uses all of his fighting style, there is no way in hell darkseid could beat him. The guy knows every fighting style in the universe. Cant get no better than that. BUT he dont use it, the only thing that he shows is brute strength, (fights like the thing)instead of martial arts.
A champion written like hes suppose to be (goku of marvel) wins 10/10. The champion that we see in comics loses 10/10
Thats your opinion and you are a darkseid lover. Im just looking at facts. Superman dont even have any kind of fighting skills that come close to champs (that uses his fighting skills) but he whoops darkseid a** on a regular basis. He dont use any speed, etc... he just simply whips his a**.
Now if you get champion, who has crushed planets with his fist and is an immortal (great durability) and fighting skills is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>supermans. He should beat the hell out of darkseid. BUT as I stated before champion dont use the fighting skills that he has so he would probably lose but a champion that is written the way his powers is suppose to be would beat darkseid 10/10
Try actually reading the three comics in the past 15 years where Superman has "beat" DS and try to look at the context of the fights. Superman beating on DS is in no way a low showing for him when they are about 10 miles from the sun and DS has made kara his *****.
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So youre telling me that everytime superman has beaten on darkseid they were by the sun. So when superman was choking darkseid out when darkseid had on the kryptonite gloves, superman was by the sun. Now it was some instances (but it wasnt stated by the writter that superman had aid from the sun) that they were fighting and you seen the sun but there have been to many times that superman has won without the aid of the sun. But i have never seen the sun aiding superman in any of there fights except in the past. Recently superman has been b***** slapping darkseid like hes his son.
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Carver, spetnaz tried to clue you into this last time you went on a rant about Supes beating Darkseid.
He was very concise and summed it up in one sentence. "Minus PIS, Darkseid is next to unbeatable." Superman can never defeat Darkseid legitimately. Superman cannot win against Darkseid. Darkseid will never lose to Superman outside of massive PIS ala Jeph Loeb.
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Well a lot of people on this forum has also said that superman is going back to his precrisis period and has gotten a huge power increase. So dont you think that that would help him in a sense in beating darkseid.
I do consider darkseid to be >>>>> superman but since i have seen superman whip up on darkseid so much, dc has put it in there mind in making superman superior to darkseid.
I've already written a neat little post about the Darkseid fights...
I'll try and find it.
Oh and Superman has beaten Darkseid like what? 3, maybe four times, and only one wasn't told to be an avatar, and that same one, had some serious circumstances, that someone hasn't even acknowledged... oh well.
Darkseid has whooped the shit out of Superman at least 4 more times (I mean times, as in multiplying) post-crisis than Superman has...
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Darkseid was smacking Superman around even in pre-crisis. And the crisis never affected him to begin with. 
