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Goob's Tourney- Match 4

Ok, listen up ladies and germs! Are you guys ready?

That is, ready for...

Blair Wind vs. King Kandy!!!

Contestants, and their character amalgams are as follows:


Blair Wind
-The Hellfire King
1.(Mind) Tony Stark
2.(Body) Sebastian Shaw
3.(Powers) The Spot

vs

King Kandy
1.(Mind) War Machine
2.(Body) Abomination
3.(Powers) Emma Frost


Location- Atlantas, the contenders will each have nanotechnology injected into their blood stream that allows them to be able to function underwater. They will be approximately 1 mile apart.

I'll post the write ups upon receiving them both.

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B-Dub's Write Up:

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Blair Wind wrote on May 28th, 2007 09:59 PM:
Prep Time

Tony, utilizing Spots teleportation, creates a spot and ends up at his armory (he himself has not moved, just his upper torso and arms as Darth specified I could). He grabs his adamantium probe rail gun, a few magnogravetric field generators, and gets some extra Psi Scramblers just to split the defensive workload against Emma (he already has some anti Psi stuff in his standard watch and his armor). He then places a assortment of gadgets in an easily accessible place in his armory should he need to use them in the coming match.

He then goes on back to the Atlantis to create strategically placed spots and stretches them to be able to hide behind any one if necessary, or to come back to a better defensive position

Step by Step Battle Plan:

Defense:
Tony's Psi Defenses are top of the line. Emma won't be able to do anything to me, period. Why you ask? Check out all these psi blocking references [1]

Seeing as Onslaught, and an amped Mentallo>>>>anything she can do I am positive she cannot get to me mentally.

If War Machine happens to get too close for comfort, even though I could probably take it to him mano a mano the long range strategy works best for me, so I teleport him through spot manipulation back to where ever I want him

I also keep myself adaptable at all times. I have full spectrum scans going on, keeping a radar lock on where War Machine is at all times. If a snag comes up in my plan, I simply adapt and overcome.

Offensive:

Going into offensive mode once the match starts, and being only 1 mile out from Rhodes, I begin to use my knowledge of him to good use. Tony starts provoking, saying personal things just to get him angry as Rhodes is known to let his anger get the best of him. Best guess is once he fails with TP, he starts shooting his arsenal of missiles, cannons, and photon beams. The moment that happens, Tony creates a huge spot in the way [2] and then redirects the attack with another spot to happen directly behind War Machine. War Machine, as Tony well knows is vulnerable to attacks from behind because they damage his weapons backpack [3]. If he decides not to attack with missiles, which with no other long range options would be foolish, Tony repulsers and pulse bolts the same area through the use of spots. He will not be able to dodge as his scanners will detect nothing from the teleportation. Not even Spiderman's spider sense could warn him of the attacks [4]

As he is reeling from his own attack (or Tony's), Tony quickly charges up an EMP and lets it off. Now, War Machine, unlike Tony, never created an EMP defense (or ever his own armor for that matter). He can give one off, but it takes his systems off for 6 minutes if he does or if someone else does. Here is a scan showing WM's lack of EMP protection with the greatest upgraded version of the armor Stark built him [5] (since he chose Rhodes War Machine *according to him*, and US WM is non canon. Any and all upgrades for the Grey/White War Machine where then available to him. This was the greatest one that Rhodes piloted). Tony is shielded from EMP's and can give them off easily [6], whereas WM never got protection (since he never created his own armor and Tony never upgraded it past that same armor)

With six minutes of total armor failure for War Machine, Tony quickly creates 5 strategic spots around his head and appendages. It will look like this only add an extra spot around his head [7]. The spots can act like a type of handcuff, but to add to his discomfort I create portals so that his left leg is to the right, right leg is to the left, right arm above his body, left arm below his body, and his head is upside down. All extra parts of his body will be 20 ft from his body, and his head will be facing away from all other parts so he cannot see anything but ocean water.

While this was happening, Tony tells the armor to bring the temperature to absolute zero[8] and freezes Rhodes appendages and torso using the water to my advantage. Since the armor is off-line, the thermostat will do nothing for protection and according to Wikipedia: "The Abomination can also go into a state of suspended animation if in a climate lacking air or heat." Just a thought.

Rhodes now has no idea of what the heck is going on, and with almost all his body frozen, Tony quickly lets go with his adamantium tipped missile/probe, and magnetically pushes it to make it go even faster [9]. With sufficient speed, Tony then creates a spot to teleport the missile with its velocity in front of War Machine's head. Seeing as it went right through Ultimo, and being that it is adamantium, it should go right through his head for a fatal head shot. Even if Rhodes turns into diamond seeing as Emma's diamond "flaw" is in her forehead and Adamantium>>>diamond hard.

Seeing as he is now dead, and being that I want to be thorough, Tony slaps the magnogravetric field generators on his body, and throws him to space. [10]

Wheres that Mortal Kombat voice saying Fatality when you need it? evil face

Recap:

Tony used prep to get himself some gadgets, and place strategically placed spots in case there is a snag in the overall plan. If any attack came unexpectedly, he could hide behind the spots, go through them to a better defensive position, or just let the ones on his body do the defense.

Tony redirects or personally attacks War Machine through Spot manipulations

Tony lets off an EMP which results in WM's armor to be completely shut off.

Tony then creates havok on WM's sense of being by placing his body in a spotted disassembled mess. The mess is then frozen

Tony then cracks WM's head wide open with an adamantium missile, then sends his lifeless body to space.

Abom's strength plays no role in this match as I dictate the terms thanks to my spots. He gets too close, he gets teleported back. Emma's telepathy also plays no role thanks to my Psi defenses.

Conclusion
There can only be one victor in this match. Sun Tzu says, "Hence the skillful fighter puts himself into a position which makes defeat impossible, and does not miss the moment for defeating the enemy." My spots and defenses give me this edge. Sun Tzu also says, "Therefore the clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him." With my tactics, WM cannot possibly dictate the terms of this match up.

I have more quotes that would be applicable, but I think you get the message. In the end only one logical victor can come from this battle.

The Hellfire King
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?...firekingbd6.png

Scans:

[1a] In his watch and armor
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[1b] Against Onslaught
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[1c] Only person not taken over by MODOK (everyone else started fighting him afterwards.)
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[1d] His greatest Psi Blocking feat yet. Mentallo was amped by AIM to a world class telepath level. He goes on to take over the mind of EVERY person in the world. Except one, Tony:
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[2] Unexpected spot
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[3] War Machines main weapons come from his weapons backpack delivery system
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[4] Not even Spiderman's spidey sense can detect Spot's punches
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[5] War Machine's armor shuts down for 30 hours after a EMP (I am assuming they knocked him out after that, since usually it only takes 6 minutes for the armor to come back online)
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[6a] Tony's EMP shielding
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[6b] Tony creating EMP's
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http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?...ulse3rn1bv5.jpg

[7] Spots around body
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[8] The armor can bring temperature to absolute zero
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http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?...utezero2ga5.jpg

[9a] Adamantium tipped missile probe
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[9b] Magnetic push
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[10] Magnogravetric field generators send him to space.
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http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?...control2th1.jpg

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King K's Write Up:

quote:

King Kandy wrote on May 28th, 2007 09:41 PM:
Okay, This is King Kandy, and I am arguing for the Amalgam Ninja Curtis, which consists of:

Mind: Jim Rhodes
Body: Abomination
Powers: Emma Frost

Specification on War Machine AKA James Rhode: Contrary to what you may have guessed, I am not using the traditional War Machine Armor. I am using the Eidolon War-Wear.

Here is a Bio on the War-Wear: http://www.ironmanarmory.com/eidolonwarwear.html

With that in mind, my Prep is as follows.

Prep:

The instant the Prep starts, I will be in Diamond Form via Emma Frosts powers. This will give me increased endurance and strength, as well as making me virtually immune to TP. Then I will split off several War-Wear Drones:

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I will have about five of these, and they will come in handy later on. In the mean time they will be hiding. Also, two of these will be the Data-Thief variety as seen above. The other three or so will be of this variety:

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As you can see, they have enough firepower to easily stagger Iron-Man. My own personal power is even greater:

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Enough power to break Iron-Man’s armor. My speed is nothing to laugh at either, War-Wear can conjure up escape velocity speeds (Around three miles per second.) with relative ease. So anyway, War-Wear can also change forms to a certain degree, as shown here:

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I will have it change in such a way that it can function perfectly well under water (It’s 100% adaptable to many different environments). Then I will hide and wait.

The Battle:

When the fight starts, I will wait until The Hellfire King comes out of a spot, or approaches (Either way works.) Then I will immediately dispatch a combat drone two attack him from behind. He won’t expect or track it. So, he’ll get hit and staggered, and then will try to counter attack… Nice idea, but my drone will be out of the area already.

However, he may get spooked and disappear into a spot. It won’t save him however, because a tiny Data-Thief Drone will have attached itself to him. It will steal all his armors info and beam it to me, and then will remain stuck to him, unnoticeable. However, I will now know his location because it will be tracking him. So even if he’s in his little Spot-World, I will know where he is, and where he will be appearing. And will be nowhere close to there.

My drones however (The attack type) will be wherever he is. And the instant he comes out of his hiding place, he will be assaulted from all sides by drones with the ability to bludgeon around Hellfire King. If he retreats into a Spot, the drones will follow him there, and continue the assault.

If an attack drone is destroyed, I make a new one. If as Spy-drone is destroyed, The second one will attach itself, only this time it’s even less likely to be noticed (Since he’s being knocked by a barrage every second.) Rinse, repeat, over and over again until he’s completely dazed and battered. Then I will do one of two things, depending on how much he’s got left in him.

A. I will grow a blade like the one in this scan:
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And run in and shave the armor right off him. Remember, that blade can cut other war-wears.

B. If personal risk isn’t my forte (Though in a moment I will show there’s no real risk), I will make a drone which will grow said blade, and IT will shave the armor right off him. Same result.

So anyway, his armor will be shaved of, and then he will be mauled.

If because of some miracle, he manages to survive all of this and actually land a hit on me, I have nothing to fear. Why? Because in addition to having the endurance of Abomination, War-Wear, and a diamond Emma Frost… I also have healing as a result of the War-Wear:

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So the War-Wear will heal both me and itself. I’d imagine the Drones have similar capabilities. So I have killer endurance and a Healing Factor. Wait; hold on one second, Abomination ALREADY has a healing factor! So I have double healing factors. Blair literally has no way to hurt me. But I have every way to hurt him.

In Conclusion:

By the end of the fight, I possess:

Double Healing Factors.

Super Endurance. (All three of my characters contribute a great amount of endurance)

Super Strength. (Same as with Endurance)

Incredible Fire-Power.

Multiple Drones with comparable Fire-Power.

Complete tracking abilities. (I will know where he is at all times. He doesn’t have comparable capabilities.)

Cap Speed.

Adaptive abilities.

So yeah, Blair’s ****ed. Ninja Curtis FTW.


Start Debating!!!!

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I will leave one opening comment, and leave this thread before the debate begins. This should be the most entertaining debate of the opening round. Good luck fellas

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Okay, so a good half of Blairs prep was detroyed because he didn't guess i'd be using warwear, so none of his stuff about destroying my backpack is valid.

Also, he think's i'll be one Mile away from him. This is true at the beginning of Prep, but by the end of it I will be far away from him... Pretty much the whole Atlantis away. He won't be taunting me.

Also, he spent so much time explaining how my TP won't work. The only problem is... I'm not using any TP for this match. If I do, then i'll do it after his armor has been shaved of near the end of the fight.

I won't be taking the offensive, and I won't let him taunt me... he won't know where I am, either. However, whenever he finds me and chases me, I get the hell out of there, and he gets blasted by some drones. And he won't take me by surprise, either, since my Data-Spy will see him at all times, and thus I will know where he is at all times.

EMP defense... Do you really think an incredibly powerful alien civilization will have no EMP defense? Stark knows nothing of Eidilon, but I know all about him. And with my Data-Spy I'll know about all the extra equiptment he's carrying... So I'll adapt to be Surge resistant (If I'm not already.)

By the way, my drones will be scouting the field for him...

Freezing me won't work either; Eidilon is perfectly capable of fighting in space. I just mioght be faster then him as well, so he's not getting the jump on me. And his missile won't work either. I'll know where he is, what he's carrying, and he's being constantly bombarded.

If he destroys a drone, I'll make a new one. So anyway, I win. big grin


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Well seems to me by far there tragedies both seem well interpreted and planned. I will have to review both cases once more before posting my decision.Until then Good luck to you both.
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Well seems to me by far there tragedies both seem well interpreted and planned. I will have to review both cases once more before posting my decision.Until then Good luck to you both.
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Unofficial post:

You're not a Judge. You don't contribute to the decision. And if you need to comment, do it in the discussion thread.


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Dude, Blair's going to eat you alive with that shitty line-up you have there. You realized this is an ironman tourny, correct?

But, due to the BFR rules, as soon as spot jumps through a portal, he loses.


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To say the least I am surprised you used the War Wear armor. Tactically, you will soon find out that it was in fact a mistake.

Lets start by going over what I did and how I impose my will of the match on you. I said from the start, I would stay adaptable, and that is what I am going to do. Your war wear presented a slight snag with great benefits....for me. Let me make this clear to start off with: if you try to run away, I create a spot portal and have you back at a respectable distance to me. So no, you wont be running away like a dog with his tail tucked in. Also, since the beginning I have had you on my scanners, and any drones will be showing up on them. Let us then move on to my countermeasures

Counter Measures:
You created your independent drones to attack and spy on me, and against most adversary's that would have been a decent plan. Against my line up it was foolish, and will cost you the match.

Concerning your data thieves, if ALIEN nanites so small that they could enter a normal persons body through the pores on their skin, cannot enter the suit, and Tony KNOWS they are there, what hope do you think your data thief has? [1] Answer? None, but getting destroyed when I activate my proximity grid and fry it [2]

On to your attacking drones, you must have forgotten that I am covered in spot portals [3], and Ironman nowadays has energy absorbers all over his suit [4] (consider that the armor from the Crossing arc is extremely inferior compared to all the newer models in terms of well....everything.) So what doesn't hit me I can redirect towards either your drones or your person, and what does hit me makes me stronger and incredibly more powerful.

These simple counter measures lead to an incredibly efficient offense.

Offensive:

Now then, any energy that gets sucked into my body spot portals hits your person and the firing drones, and has you reeling from your own attacks. Moreso than usual incidentally because every time any drone of yours gets destroyed its like a part of your war wear AND you were killed [5]. You have such an empathetic link to them that anytime any of your drones is destroyed you feel their pain, and WM has in fact gone unconscious from just one drone being destroyed [6]

With Aboms and Emma's added durability (which is an added redundancy and works against each other. Emma's turns the WHOLE body into a diamond, therefore negating Aboms durability effect) unable to protect your drones, they are all going to get destroyed and YOU will feel their pain.

Also any attack that I myself put on your person, or any redirected attack on your person will hurt the war wear armor since a simple repulser has torn it before [7], and I can just have my tactical computer take over for perfect accuracy, and battle tactic suggestions in case I need to adapt again [8]

With you literally reeling from your own attacks (and if I get bored enough, mine), I continue as planned with my offense.

I get you spottcuffed (my new word for this [9] ). Remember your sense of direction will be horrendously thrown off. All appendages of his body will be 20 ft from his body as described in my opening post, and his head will be facing away from all other parts so he cannot see anything but ocean water.

Absolute zero is still absolute zero. Your statement that absolute zero will have no effect on you is absurd. Space has a temperature difference of three degrees, which compared to absolute zero is a significant difference, as molecules actually stop moving at that temp.

With you spotcuffed, frozen, and hell maybe even knocked out from your drones being destroyed, the final piece to this chess game is set in place. I let off with the adamantium missile [10] directly into your head. Your war wear cant handle that, abom cannot handle that, and even emma's diamond form cannot handle that (even more so because I was aiming for a headshot, the shot is lucky in that her diamond flaw is in her forehead).

Then I just slap the gravity cancellers on you and watch you head for orbit smile


Recap:
Essentially you said that you would send your drones out to find me, and you would run away like a scared kid. You gave me a way to hurt you without you actually being there. You see Rhodes has a empathetic link with his drones and when one is hurt he actually gets hurt. Hell he can go unconscious just by destroying one.

However, that was just the beginning. Almost my whole strategy is still left intact. In fact the ONLY part I took out was the EMP and its debatable whether it would have worked or not. I proved I have defenses against your TP if you choose to use it, Ive proved that I can hit you from behind, that I can redirect any of your attacks, and thats all I need really.

Your assumption of what his morphing ability entails is staggering since it was only used in one panel. I do however know that the war wear cannot take a repulser to the gut, and I control where I want you to be through spot manipulations. You go too far, I teleport you back. You come to close, I teleport you back. You cannot do anything without my say so. How are you doing to stop my successive system? I drop your drones, hurt you in the process, and continue as planned.

Good thing we have that all cleared. Back on to the original point, I destroy your drones after having them come up in my scans, in the process you get hurt, and then have my original plan go into affect (spotcuffing you, freezing you with absolute zero, and spiking you through your head.) Your warwear changes nothing, and in fact it might make things easier for me to win.

Conclusion?
I win, and I don't even have to attack YOU do it. I just start off with the drones, and end your life when your in so much pain you get knocked out. evil face You cannot control where you go, and I have the advantage in firepower, as I can redirect your own fire. Your simply outclassed in terms of versatility, maneuverability, and tech. You brought a good game Kandy....

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Scans:

[1] Alien nanites cannot get into his armor, and then even smaller ones cannot.
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[2] Anything touching his armor gets electrified thanks to his proximity grid
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[3] Spots on my Ironman suit
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[4]Energy absorbing
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[5] War Wear drone killed, empathetic link found
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[6] When ONE drone was killed, he went UNCONSCIOUS.
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[7] Repulser tears up the suit
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[8] Computer accuracy
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[8a]Computer tactic suggestions
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[9] Spotcuffed
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[10] Adamantium tipped missile
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Old Post May 30th, 2007 12:22 AM
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
I create a spot portal and have you back at a respectable distance to me.

Only one problem... Spot can't create Spots anywhere he wants. he throws them, as we see in the following scan.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6900/spoteg4.jpg

As you can see, they aren't exactly unavoidable.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Also, since the beginning I have had you on my scanners, and any drones will be showing up on them. Let us then move on to my countermeasures

Your underwater effectivity isn't that high... Unlike me, you haven't adapted to a water form.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Concerning your data thieves, if ALIEN nanites so small that they could enter a normal persons body through the pores on their skin, cannot enter the suit, and Tony KNOWS they are there, what hope do you think your data thief has?

Well alot more then these things, because I don't have to get inside the armor... I only have to attach.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
On to your attacking drones, you must have forgotten that I am covered in spot portals [3], and Ironman nowadays has energy absorbers all over his suit [4] (consider that the armor from the Crossing arc is extremely inferior compared to all the newer models in terms of well....everything.) So what doesn't hit me I can redirect towards either your drones or your person, and what does hit me makes me stronger and incredibly more powerful.

Show me a "Redirection, so to speak... Cause as far as I con tell, he's only ever put projectiles into the spot-realm.

http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spot2fz1.jpg

So I want PROOF you can redirect an energy beam.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Now then, any energy that gets sucked into my body spot portals hits your person and the firing drones, and has you reeling from your own attacks.

Not without proof you can do so, you won't.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Moreso than usual incidentally because every time any drone of yours gets destroyed its like a part of your war wear AND you were killed [5]. You have such an empathetic link to them that anytime any of your drones is destroyed you feel their pain, and WM has in fact gone unconscious from just one drone being destroyed

Won't work, for three reasons.

A. I don't think it's destruction backlash will pass from the spot realm to my world.
B. My character has a much higher tolerance for pain then Rhodes did.
C. A psychic backlash will land on... Oh yeah, the guy who's immune to psychics.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
and I can just have my tactical computer take over for perfect accuracy,

Your aim won't be so great under water.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
I get you spottcuffed (my new word for this [9] ). Remember your sense of direction will be horrendously thrown off. All appendages of his body will be 20 ft from his body as described in my opening post, and his head will be facing away from all other parts so he cannot see anything but ocean water.

I'll be flying around at mach ten... You think you can hit me with some thrown Spots when they couldn't even hit Spiderman?

Also, couldn't I just... Pull back?

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Absolute zero is still absolute zero. Your statement that absolute zero will have no effect on you is absurd. Space has a temperature difference of three degrees, which compared to absolute zero is a significant difference, as molecules actually stop moving at that temp.

And what, while I'm being subjected to this for like 0.00001 of a second... The temperature will immediatly rise, and since my character handles cold easily, I'll be back on my feat. You won't since my drones are bombarding you.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
I let off with the adamantium missile [10] directly into your head. Your war wear cant handle that, abom cannot handle that, and even emma's diamond form cannot handle that.

To bad I won't actualy be damaged, so I'll be able to dodge it, knock it off course, or hide behind a spot and have it redirected at YOU...


The Big Problem with Blair's Prep:
But he won't have any of his stuff from his ware house for two reasons.

Reason one is that the Spot has NEVER shown to be able to travel that far. Ever. You're having him go somewhere that's so far away he won't have reliable effects.

Reason two is even more pressing. I'll give you a hint. One side of his spot is in the warehouse, the other sides in the middle of the ocean... And it's the size of a human.

The warehouse is going to get wet. It'll be filled with water, so even if he gets there, he'll have a tough time:

A. Manuevering.
B. Finding everything.
C. Finding things that aren't short circuited.


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The Iron Avenger

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So your gonna make this more interesting than last time. Props at least for that. Now its time to debate smile

Counter points:

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Only one problem... Spot can't create Spots anywhere he wants. he throws them, as we see in the following scan.

Interesting, using his first showing. Good thing I have them ALL, and he later starts creating spots even when he is not "powered" up. So he couldnt have thrown it wink [1]

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Your underwater effectivity isn't that high... Unlike me, you haven't adapted to a water form.

Did you just really say my accuracy underwater will not be the good? What the f**k? Ironman has fought plenty of times underwater. That statement was just absurd. He even states himself while underwater that he builds his armor for ANY environment [2] Besides, I was also under the assumption that the nanites would "magically" as it were allow a person and his tech to exist just fine under water.

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I only have to attach.

You attach to my armor, you get fried. Simple

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Show me a "Redirection, so to speak...

Redirection? He can redirect his punches, and anything that travels in them. [3]

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Won't work, for three reasons.

You can believe what you want but its wrong. The thing is its more like a part of you died. Thats gonna hurt you tons. Its an empathetic link, you feel it, but its not anything to do with your pain. Its like being alive through your death if that made any sense. Besides, Emma's TP is not working when in diamond form, and its not a "telepathic" link per say anyways. Its empathetic.

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I'll be flying around at mach ten... You think you can hit me with some thrown Spots when they couldn't even hit Spiderman?

Also, couldn't I just... Pull back?

Please, WM doesnt move at mach ten. In a straight line Ive seen him reach Mach 2 with that armor.

So thrown spots are dumb, but created spots that work as cuffes (like they did to Spiderman wouldnt help you much now would they). Plus your body is in a distorted mess, so you wouldnt know which way to pull even if you could erm

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And what, while I'm being subjected to this for like 0.00001 of a second... The temperature will immediatly rise, and since my character handles cold easily, I'll be back on my feat.

You won't since my drones are bombarding you.


It would take quite a while for you get back to not being frozen. Its a distractionary tactic anyways.

The drones bombarding me does nothing. Energy absorbers and spots dude. Get it straight. With the tactics your using your doing nothing but powering me up.

So how exactly do you plan on hurting me? Anything that hits my body in an energy form gets absorbed or powers the suit. no expression

Even if I dont redirect your attacks, they still get absorbed into my spots. Please HOW are you hurting me? confused

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To bad I won't actualy be damaged, so I'll be able to dodge it, knock it off course

When its spotted directly next to your head with a magnetic push? If spiderman's spidey sense could not sense things coming from the spot, how will you in time?

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Reason one is that the Spot has NEVER shown to be able to travel that far. Ever. You're having him go somewhere that's so far away he won't have reliable effects.


What do you know about Spot's traveling distances? confused
He has created a portal for someone to go from New York to Switzerland, and he can travel inter-dimensional space. [4] Hell he was one of two parts that lead to the negative zone in a FF comic

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Reason two is even more pressing. I'll give you a hint. One side of his spot is in the warehouse, the other sides in the middle of the ocean... And it's the size of a human.

Interesting. However your reasoning is flawed. My portal is skin tight and I can us a forcefield to seal it and make it water sealed. Tony is no dummy erm (or in another way, I go into the spotted realm, then go through a second spot) Either way works


Lets recheck things:

Your offensive has yet to be able to hurt me, I have two ways of absorbing your offensive. Energy absorbers and spots.

Your drones send pain back at you when I destroy them.

My targeting systems can fire at your WM armor while my armor itself deals with the energy firing (absorbing or spot defense)

All the while, I am controlling the fight, the flow of everything, and any attack you give off I redirect to you or absorb for myself.

So back on topic

Let us realize that my team has one of the best defenses in the game with my spots. You actually hitting my armor with your bolts does NOTHING but powering me up (showing an extremely old armor fairing against it is nothing compared to the new ones).

Your drones are not doing ANYTHING productive. I can just let you hit my armor and spots. I can destroy your drones with my own armor, my repulser blasts, pulse bolts (that hit harder the farther they go), and uni beam will put a hurting on anything you can do. My tactics follow in tight precision while yours are sloppy and can get you in a ton of trouble. You have no REAL way of hurting me. You may have fancy remote drones, but its not gonna be enough to take down a man covered in inter-dimensional spots, and energy absorbing armor.

Hell I will even one up you. Lets PRETEND that your energy blasts do anything BUT get absorbed. Say they bust through my armor. I have Shaw as my body dude. Lets take a look at what that means as Shaw absorbs kinetic energy. Anything hits him, be it energy or physical force and he gets more powerful.[5] So your saying what? Your gonna beat me down and get me tired with a barrage of drone energy? Also, with a knife? With Shaws power the thrusting motion of a knife or sword gets taken away so all I would have would be a slight scratch if you got past my armor and spots. Man you cant get past my armor, my spots, OR my physical body. Me on the other hand? I can take it to you in any way shape or form, and hell I can even use your own stuff against you.

My strategy is a full fledged plan with room for adaptability. What your offering is a simple ambush that puts you at a liability. Past the drones you have nothing to offer to the fight, and with the drones I can hurt you. Past that, your strategy does nothing but give you a retreat, but I can locate you, teleport towards you, teleport you towards me, and take you out in a variety of ways. Hell wanna hear a pretty cool one I can only do here? I can download a signal from a satellite and broadcast the distress call of a baby sperm whale. Wanna know how it feels to be Jonah? [6] laughing out loud (this of course would just be ANOTHER option in my top 10 ways of taking you out wink )

Sorry Kandy but http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=youlosedu2.jpg

Scans

[1a] Spot creates spots when not even "powered up"
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[1b]Goes into a bank
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[2] Ironman going under water and saying he built his armor for any environment
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[3] Redirect?
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[4] Long Distance traveling
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[5] Shaw getting hit by various energy sources
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http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?...48p13zm4jx6.jpg
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[6] After saving a government ship, getting caught trying to save the crewmen in the debris, then getting back up a huge squid catches him and he gets creative
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?...alhelp1atx7.jpg
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Well, Blair... You sure are putting up a good fight. I expected nothing less. Unfortunatly, I can end all your unfounded defamation of my strategy...

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Interesting, using his first showing. Good thing I have them ALL, and he later starts creating spots even when he is not "powered" up. So he couldnt have thrown it wink

Yeah... Doesn't matter, in his civilian mode, all his spots are concentrated on his chest. He probably pulled them off to make that portal.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Did you just really say my accuracy underwater will not be the good? What the f**k? Ironman has fought plenty of times underwater. That statement was just absurd. He even states himself while underwater that he builds his armor for ANY environment. Besides, I was also under the assumption that the nanites would "magically" as it were allow a person and his tech to exist just fine under water.

Your underwater accuracy may be fine, but there's a difference between having an armor that can function underwater (You) and having a oliteral "Aquatic Armor" (Me.)


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
You attach to my armor, you get fried. Simple

You won't even notice you got attached to.. You're being constantly attacked at every faze of the battle.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Redirection? He can redirect his punches, and anything that travels in them.

I'm not punching you... confused


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
You can believe what you want but its wrong. The thing is its more like a part of you died. Thats gonna hurt you tons. Its an empathetic link, you feel it, but its not anything to do with your pain. Its like being alive through your death if that made any sense. Besides, Emma's TP is not working when in diamond form, and its not a "telepathic" link per say anyways. Its empathetic.

Psychics have no effect on me. TP or Empathy, nothing. It's as if a part of you died, but... So's having your arm cut off. My character can take the pain. Ninja Curtis isn't Jim Rhodes.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Please, WM doesnt move at mach ten. In a straight line Ive seen him reach Mach 2 with that armor.

I can move escape velocity... 11 kilometers per second. That's quite a bit over Mach two. Infact, it's quite a bit over mach ten.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
So thrown spots are dumb, but created spots that work as cuffes (like they did to Spiderman wouldnt help you much now would they). Plus your body is in a distorted mess, so you wouldnt know which way to pull even if you could erm

Dude, I only need to step backwards... I won't give you time to warp every inch of my body. Infact, I won't give you time to warp ANY of my body.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
It would take quite a while for you get back to not being frozen. Its a distractionary tactic anyways.

Not really... If my character can function at 1/1000000th of a degree above absolute zero, he only needs a microsecond for it to return to speed you're comfortable with.

You won't be hitting me with your freezer anyway, I'm to fast and maneuverable.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
The drones bombarding me does nothing. Energy absorbers and spots dude. Get it straight. With the tactics your using your doing nothing but powering me up.

Get it straight yourself... You can't store infinite amounts of energy. And you don't have portal covering every inch of your body.

It's basic conservation of energy... You have to overheat eventually.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
When its spotted directly next to your head with a magnetic push? If spiderman's spidey sense could not sense things coming from the spot, how will you in time?

Because I will be tracking you... You have a data-Spy on your back, tracking your every move.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Interesting. However your reasoning is flawed. My portal is skin tight and I can us a forcefield to seal it and make it water sealed. Tony is no dummy erm (or in another way, I go into the spotted realm, then go through a second spot) Either way works

Can you describe this skin tight portal thing again? Because i'm having trouble envisioning what you're talking about... The spot can't create specially shaped portals. He can only make... Spots. That's why he's called "The Spot" and not "Portal-Man."

So your forcefield is going to contain the pressure of the entire ocean, eh?

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Hell I will even one up you. Lets PRETEND that your energy blasts do anything BUT get absorbed. Say they bust through my armor. I have Shaw as my body dude. Lets take a look at what that means as Shaw absorbs kinetic energy. Anything hits him, be it energy or physical force and he gets more powerful.[5] So your saying what? Your gonna beat me down and get me tired with a barrage of drone energy? Also, with a knife? With Shaws power the thrusting motion of a knife or sword gets taken away so all I would have would be a slight scratch if you got past my armor and spots. Man you cant get past my armor, my spots, OR my physical body. Me on the other hand? I can take it to you in any way shape or form, and hell I can even use your own stuff against you.

Shaw can be overloaded, as can your armor. Also, my knife was for your armor, not your body. After your armor is totaly destroyed, I can always use TP, and then your Shaw powers won't count for anything.


Another Flaw With Blairs Plan

Your prep involves you putting your arms, legs, and other body parts through spots, and attacking from all over the field.

So I can fly behind you (Cap Speeds) and just... Tip you over, and the spots will severe all your limbs off.


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Blair Wind
The Iron Avenger

Gender: Male
Location: Stark Tower

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, Blair... You sure are putting up a good fight. I expected nothing less. Unfortunatly, I can end all your unfounded defamation of my strategy...


Well its good to know your gonna go down fighting wink

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Yeah... Doesn't matter, in his civilian mode, all his spots are concentrated on his chest. He probably pulled them off to make that portal.


No, he had his hands in his pockets the whole time. Plus in the bank, did he throw one to get in? laughing out loud


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Originally posted by King Kandy

Your underwater accuracy may be fine, but there's a difference between having an armor that can function underwater (You) and having a oliteral "Aquatic Armor" (Me.)


Your taking a very ambiguous scan to mean that he can morph it for underwater conditions. Besides, the nanotech that Darth gave us was meant to not have the environment be a detrimental effect on us erm


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Originally posted by King Kandy

You won't even notice you got attached to.. You're being constantly attacked at every faze of the battle.


The armor would notice, m'man. A proximity grid electroshock and its gone

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Originally posted by King Kandy

I'm not punching you... confused


No, but its meant to show that things will be redirected.


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Originally posted by King Kandy

Psychics have no effect on me. TP or Empathy, nothing. It's as if a part of you died, but... So's having your arm cut off. My character can take the pain. Ninja Curtis isn't Jim Rhodes.


Its not the pain receptors in your actual body. Its a empathetic link between you and the symbiote. Besides, Emma's TP powers dont work when in diamond form.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

I can move escape velocity... 11 kilometers per second. That's quite a bit over Mach two. Infact, it's quite a bit over mach ten.


Ironman has gone out into outer space. That would be escape velocity as well would it not? Your speed is the least of my worries

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Not really... If my character can function at 1/1000000th of a degree above absolute zero, he only needs a microsecond for it to return to speed you're comfortable with.


Who says he can? Space is three degrees above absolute zero. Thats QUITE a difference in terms of molecular motion man.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

You won't be hitting me with your freezer anyway, I'm to fast and maneuverable.


The war wear has shown nothing but straight line speed. His reaction time isnt exactly best. Go back to the scan where Ironman hits him in the gut.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Get it straight yourself... You can't store infinite amounts of energy. And you don't have portal covering every inch of your body

It's basic conservation of energy... You have to overheat eventually.


Think about it this way. 2/3rs of my body is spots. You can hit me all day, its going to get sucked in by spots, and what doesnt gets absorbed by me. Besides if Fin Fan Foom, Sunspot, the third rail of a railtrack, hell if a lightning bolt from Thor cant do it what makes you think you can?? Its just gonna power me up.

Besides, while your hitting me with your drones, Im destroying them and going after you.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Because I will be tracking you... You have a data-Spy on your back, tracking your every move.


proximity grid + zap = no data spy.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Can you describe this skin tight portal thing again? Because i'm having trouble envisioning what you're talking about... The spot can't create specially shaped portals. He can only make... Spots. That's why he's called "The Spot" and not "Portal-Man."

So your forcefield is going to contain the pressure of the entire ocean, eh?

Well I would go in and have it be skin tight around my waist.

Alternatively I could just go into the spotted dimension, and then go into another spot. Your scared of my gadgets?

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Shaw can be overloaded, as can your armor. Also, my knife was for your armor, not your body. After your armor is totaly destroyed, I can always use TP, and then your Shaw powers won't count for anything.


Your energy isnt going to do much of anything to overload shaw however. Besides my armor and spots can handle it. How are you going to knife me with my spots all over??

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Another Flaw With Blairs Plan

Your prep involves you putting your arms, legs, and other body parts through spots, and attacking from all over the field.

So I can fly behind you (Cap Speeds) and just... Tip you over, and the spots will severe all your limbs off.


What the f**k? Say what? I never said I would have my arms and legs in the spots. I said I would fire things through spots, but my arms and legs dont have to be in them at any point.

But good point, I spot cuff you, hit you in the torso with a repulser, and your dead evil face

Back to explaining my offense and defense:

DEFENSE:

My armor can absorb energy so if Fin Fan Foom, Sunspot, the third rail of a rail track, hell if a lightning bolt from Thor cant do it what makes you think you can overpower me?? Its just gonna power me up.

Then I have spots. I dont even need to control those, you just hit me, and they absorb them. If I CHOOSE to I can have them redirect your beams to you. But Ill just focus on destroying your drones regularly with target lock on my onboard computer. That way I can focus on you personally with my spots.

I also have my strategically placed spots, that your drones could fly into effectively leaving them in the spotted dimension as they would have no idea where to go from there. If I choose to do evasive maneuvers this would most likely happen to them

If, for those who choose to believe it can happen, my armor gets breached by your drones, shaw can be powered up by energy. Nothing you do HURTS me but in fact HELPS me.

Ok, so I have my strategic spots, I have spots on my body, and my armor can absorb energy. If push comes to shove, I also have shaws kinetic absorbing power.

You send your drones to hit me and well the energy will just get sucked in either way. I can repulser blast or pulse bolt them to death if I want to. Hell I can ignore them since most of the energy will be put to the spotted dimension *if I choose not to redirect them at you personally* or sucked into my armor making me more powerful. I dont think your getting that concept.

OFFENSIVE:

My plan though is to hit them, while they are ineffectively hitting me. Then I go after your cowardly running away Ninja Curtis. Your plan is based on one hope, while I can adapt for any situation. Hell what are you going to do with the huge sperm whales I can bring your way?

My plan is tactically sound, and executed with precision. Your attack drones are nothing but annoying flies, and past that you have no real strategy. Your assuming that your ONE attack will take me out. It does nothing of the sort. You on the other hand? Spotcuffs ftw evil face

Besides I really doubt you can take a adamantium missile to the head...that would be your brain splattered all over Nemo's body.

Flaws with Kandy's....everything

He assumes that his drones will take care of me, and he need not worry about me at all after that. That would be underestimating his opponent, and quite frankly will cost him the match. His drones are a liability to him and his health. It will hurt him, and thats all the opening I need.

After that, which I countered, what can he offer? What did he chose to bring to the match? Nothing at all. He cannot win a fight that he chooses not to fight in. A boxer cannot expect to win with only ONE hit in the first round. You need a strategy, and multiple attacks. Kandy brought only one to the table, and it was not good enough.

Lets also remember that he has no adequate defenses against my attacks. They can happen from any spot, or even just from me. His diamond body (which negates aboms durability since her WHOLE body turns to diamond) just so happens to have a flaw in her face which my adamantium missile luckily can exploit.

Also since Ironman can pull up avenger, and SHIELD files up from his armor he will know that Abomination goes into suspended animation when in an environment lacking air or heat. The absolute zero could potentially put you to sleep. Hell if I REALLY wanted to affect you, I could create a spot in the INSIDE of your armor (between armor and body) and freeze you that way which means your armor cannot help (or hit you with a adamantium tipped missile in the head shifty ) Your amalgam is not a match for my superior versatility and adaptability.

In the end, Tony will win and:http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=youloselm7.jpg

Let us also not forget:
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Well It's good to see Blair's keeping up the ol' spin machine to change all my strategies into bullshit. Unfortunatly, the only one with the bullshit is HIM.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
No, he had his hands in his pockets the whole time. Plus in the bank, did he throw one to get in? laughing out loud

You don't know that. He could have easily pulled Spots off his chest and put them on the wall.



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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Your taking a very ambiguous scan to mean that he can morph it for underwater conditions. Besides, the nanotech that Darth gave us was meant to not have the environment be a detrimental effect on us erm

Really, because I took it to mean that our bodies were fine, but we'd have to be creative with our tech. And the tech from Stark Warehouse (Which you won't have) isn't adapted for underwater conditions in ANY interpretation.

Speaking of the rules, it's been brought to my intention that the scan you used to "Prove" that Emma's TP would be useless is actualy non-canon... It's sad you have to cheat to win.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
The armor would notice, m'man. A proximity grid electroshock and its gone

And It's such a good idea to do your electrical Shock underwater...


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
No, but its meant to show that things will be redirected.

Bolts move a lot faster then punches. Your reaction speed won't be enough.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Its not the pain receptors in your actual body. Its a empathetic link between you and the symbiote. Besides, Emma's TP powers dont work when in diamond form.

Well for a while this had me stumped, but know I know this won't work. Obeserve.

Emma Feels nothing in diamond form. including Empathy, Emotion, Pain... She doesn't feel anything.

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She doesn't feel pleasure either.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1082/xmes0204rr8.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmes0205ef3.jpg

Also, you totally misunderstood me. She's not immune to TP because she has TP herself, she's immune because her diamond form itself is immune.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Ironman has gone out into outer space. That would be escape velocity as well would it not? Your speed is the least of my worries

The point is that you can't catch me. I can run indefinatly (But I won't have to.)


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Who says he can? Space is three degrees above absolute zero. Thats QUITE a difference in terms of molecular motion man.

Calm Hulk can survive temperatures infintesmely above absolute Zero. Abomination is >Calm Hulk in all aspects. Do the math.

Furthermore, He's made of Diamond. Which won't be damaged AT ALL by the absolute Zero Transition.



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Originally posted by Blair Wind
The war wear has shown nothing but straight line speed. His reaction time isnt exactly best. Go back to the scan where Ironman hits him in the gut.

I'm not using anything other then Straight line/Slightly curved speed in my strategy.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Think about it this way. 2/3rs of my body is spots. You can hit me all day, its going to get sucked in by spots, and what doesnt gets absorbed by me. Besides if Fin Fan Foom, Sunspot, the third rail of a railtrack, hell if a lightning bolt from Thor cant do it what makes you think you can?? Its just gonna power me up.

Well by that logic, no one can hurt you, even guys like Thanos, Odin, Zuras, because you'll just Shift it into the damn Spot realm or absorb it. Your systems CAN be overloaded.

Also, I'm not trying to oneshot you, I'm trying to overload you over the course of MANY hits.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Besides, while your hitting me with your drones, Im destroying them and going after you.

You destroy a Drone, I create a new Drone. I can keep this up all day.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
proximity grid + zap = no data spy.

Zap + Underwater + Iron-Man = Barbecue



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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Well I would go in and have it be skin tight around my waist.
You'd cut your waist of, then. How about you draw a diagram?

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Alternatively I could just go into the spotted dimension, and then go into another spot. Your scared of my gadgets?

Then the entire contents of the ocean get dumoed in the spotted Zone.

Nice one.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Your energy isnt going to do much of anything to overload shaw however. Besides my armor and spots can handle it. How are you going to knife me with my spots all over??

Good Aim, and a worn out Hellfire King.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
What the f**k? Say what? I never said I would have my arms and legs in the spots. I said I would fire things through spots, but my arms and legs dont have to be in them at any point.

Then you can only shoot in one dimension. Great idea. I'm really afraid of your aim now.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
But good point, I spot cuff you, hit you in the torso with a repulser, and your dead evil face

You won't cuff me or Blast me. You're flat on the ground getting blasted by my Drones.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
I also have my strategically placed spots, that your drones could fly into effectively leaving them in the spotted dimension as they would have no idea where to go from there. If I choose to do evasive maneuvers this would most likely happen to them

They'll just walk out of the dimension, unless you close the hole. And you'll be far to busy to do that.


Everything that follows this is Blairs misguided assumption that I'm trying to one-shot him. I'm not. I'm trying to batter him, shave off his armor, then mangle him. Or mindrape him. It's a long process that involves constant attack.


However... It turns out I CAN mind attack him, because I can bypass his sheild and defenses through the vaunted scanners he's using to track me.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2623/emma35qj.jpg

So his whole prep was based on a bad assumption. erm

I win.


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So who are the judges for this round? And when do matches end?? confused

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Well It's good to see Blair's keeping up the ol' spin machine to change all my strategies into bullshit. Unfortunatly, the only one with the bullshit is HIM.


Interesting to know this is the hottest debate so far. Dont be grouchy in front of the public eye now kandy..... On that subject however, your strategies are.....not gonna work.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

You don't know that. He could have easily pulled Spots off his chest and put them on the wall.


Yes, and the bank? [1] or the time he was fighting the grizzly guy [2], or the time made it appear out of thin air?? [3]

Besides, he created quite a few spots. For pulling ONE off his chest (quickly might I add for taking his shirt off, and pulling it), it seemed like he made a few.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Speaking of the rules, it's been brought to my intention that the scan you used to "Prove" that Emma's TP would be useless is actualy non-canon... It's sad you have to cheat to win.


A) One scan of the many I presented vs TP no expression
B) I didnt know marvel adventures was non canon. My apologizes.
C) Its sad you've resorted to insults to try and sound impressive.


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Originally posted by King Kandy

And It's such a good idea to do your electrical Shock underwater...


confused Its not gonna bother my guy any [4] How about yours?


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Originally posted by King Kandy

Bolts move a lot faster then punches. Your reaction speed won't be enough.


Now, but if the attack is aimed at my body I wont need to. Its a 80% chance it hits a spot and gets absorbed, and the other 20% I just absorb the energy for my armor.


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Originally posted by King Kandy

The point is that you can't catch me. I can run indefinatly (But I won't have to.)


But I can. I can teleport next to you, or teleport you yourself. Either way Im getting to you.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Calm Hulk can survive temperatures infintesmely above absolute Zero. Abomination is >Calm Hulk in all aspects. Do the math.

Furthermore, He's made of Diamond. Which won't be damaged AT ALL by the absolute Zero Transition.


Yet its in Abom's wiki that he will go into suspended animation without heat

Furthermore I dont think you UNDERSTAND the CONCEPT of absolute zero. ALL molecular motion STOPS. Being made of diamond does not change that.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Your systems CAN be overloaded.

Also, I'm not trying to oneshot you, I'm trying to overload you over the course of MANY hits.


Not by your team, and most definitely not with the combo of the armor and spots to synergisticlly work together. Any attack done on me with energy either gets absorbed....or absorbed. Either way works for me.



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Originally posted by King Kandy

You destroy a Drone, I create a new Drone. I can keep this up all day.


And I can continue to let them hit me. Its all just gonna go into a spot. Plus if I so choose, I could lead them far away from you, then teleport quickly to your position. Besides, Rhodes has a limit to how many he can make. He said so while fighting in the Force Works HQ [5]


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Originally posted by King Kandy

Zap + Underwater + Iron-Man = Barbecue


Let me again point you to this scan [4] no expression

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Originally posted by King Kandy

You'd cut your waist of, then. How about you draw a diagram?


Then the entire contents of the ocean get dumoed in the spotted Zone.

Nice one.


You come up with the most brilliant ideas! big grin I could just let it go into the spotted realm. Whats it gonna do then but eventually go into another spot below it? eek!


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Originally posted by King Kandy

Then you can only shoot in one dimension. Great idea. I'm really afraid of your aim now.


Your not understanding spots. Spots can be spot to spot travel, OR they can be spot to dimension to spot travel (evidence would be the million times a punch goes from one spot to the next, yet in the spotted dimension no two spots are that close.).

So you see, I could just fire a random shot through a spot, and redirect it where I want it.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

You won't cuff me or Blast me. You're flat on the ground getting blasted by my Drones.


Almost 80% of my body is for lack of a better word insubstantial. What are you going to be blasting? confused I have the speed advantage in my teleporting. I could lead them away, draw them into the spotted realm, and close the "door". You have a finite number of drones you can make AND you can only have 2 independent constructs on the field.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

Everything that follows this is Blairs misguided assumption that I'm trying to one-shot him. I'm not. I'm trying to batter him, shave off his armor, then mangle him. Or mindrape him. It's a long process that involves constant attack.


No, no, no, and no. None of your attacks are going to work.

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Originally posted by King Kandy

However... It turns out I CAN mind attack him, because I can bypass his sheild and defenses through the vaunted scanners he's using to track me.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2623/emma35qj.jpg

So his whole prep was based on a bad assumption. erm


no expression I want you to READ the scan.

A) She said it was a design flaw
B) Ironman tech>>>> Sentinel tech
C) IF people want to believe that she can get through my scanners, I have my standard watch (Pre-Extremis actually has its perks for me laughing out loud ) which staved off Mentallos mind attack and it has no scanners. He had psi scramblers that worked against Onslaught. Sorry, but your NOT gonna be mind raping me anytime soon.

Back on topic:

I want to know what your going to do against the whales (eh I decided to throw them in their for the fun of it), the fact that I can easily create a spot between the armor and your face and send the ADAMANTIUM missile straight for a headshot, or the spotcuffs. Absolute zero you dont seem to comprehend so I wont bother asking.

Or how about the fact that I can teleport to your position after dealing with your limited (as they are independent AND constructed during the match *just as a GL would do* meaning you can only have 2 per match or at a time. Either works for me) drones through spot manipulation or rapid fire bursts.

So again for those who like organization and structure:

My Defenses:
-Spots
-Armor can absorb energy
(with just those two, I have an incredible defense)
-Shaw's kinetic absorbtion

My Offense:
-Redirected Spot attacks
-Spot cuffs
-Sperm Whales
-Absolute Zero
-Pulse Bolts
-Repulser Rays
-Adamantium Missile to the head (a spot that formulates inside the armor between the armor and the face, and delivers a nice fatal surprise)
-Gravity cancelers

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For reference

His Defense:
Diamond hard skin (that coincidently can be shattered if hit in the head)
Pierceable war wear armor (been done by tony himself)
Aboms body (wouldnt the diamond form negate his use?) Plus he goes into suspended animation when there is no heat.
Running away

His offense
-Finite, destroyable Independent Drones


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Conclusion
My strategy is more than adequate to take care of your attack.

I have counter measures to use against your team, versatility in spades, and defenses to spare. In they end, there can only be one winner, and logic would dictate that it is me.

Scans

[1] Gets into a bank
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?...man24605kb6.jpg

[2]fights the grizzly dude
http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?...man24619tf6.jpg

[3] makes one appear before Black Cat can move, and makes one materialize
http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?...mthinairez3.jpg

[3b]Materializes out of thin air
http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?...man24513mg1.jpg

[4]Absorbing a lightning bolt from Thor.
http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?...absorbedfy3.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?...ingboostsw3.jpg

[5] Rhodes stating that he would run out of drones (besides independent constructs are limited *especially since you have to organically "construct" them*
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?...orks2009vx3.jpg


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Ah.......pwned?


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Anyone else find that having the scans in a completely different part of the post to be annoying?

It means you have to scroll down to find whatever scan is being referred to, then scroll back up and having to find the sentence it fits with again.

Just personal preference but it may be better to post scans next to whatever they are being used to back up.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
So who are the judges for this round? And when do matches end?? confused

I thionk they end on sunday.



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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Interesting to know this is the hottest debate so far. Dont be grouchy in front of the public eye now kandy..... On that subject however, your strategies are.....not gonna work.

Yeah, sorry about this. My schedule demanded that I made some of these posts pretty early, so I was tired for the majority of these.



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Originally posted by Blair Wind
A) One scan of the many I presented vs TP no expression
B) I didnt know marvel adventures was non canon. My apologizes.
C) Its sad you've resorted to insults to try and sound impressive.

Again, sorry about the insults.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
confused Its not gonna bother my guy any [4] How about yours?


But still, it doesn't work so well. Just to let you know, since you'll get fried. I mean... he wasn't able to absorb the entire lightning bolt.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Now, but if the attack is aimed at my body I wont need to. Its a 80% chance it hits a spot and gets absorbed, and the other 20% I just absorb the energy for my armor.

YOUR POWERS HAVE LIMITS! Repeat that with me. You cannot absorb infinite amounts of energy, there is a limit.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
But I can. I can teleport next to you, or teleport you yourself. Either way Im getting to you.

And when you step out of the portal, a drone knocks you over, and I get away from there.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Yet its in Abom's wiki that he will go into suspended animation without heat

Okay, let me get this straight; first you say Aboms body is cancelled by Emma's, then you bring up Abom's body in an argument. Make up your mind.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Furthermore I dont think you UNDERSTAND the CONCEPT of absolute zero. ALL molecular motion STOPS. Being made of diamond does not change that.

I understand that perfectly. But the motion will restart in a nanosecond, and there's no organic tissue that will be harmed by freezing then reheating.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Not by your team, and most definitely not with the combo of the armor and spots to synergisticlly work together. Any attack done on me with energy either gets absorbed....or absorbed. Either way works for me.

How's your energy absorber going to work if I just punch you in the face?



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Originally posted by Blair Wind
And I can continue to let them hit me. Its all just gonna go into a spot. Plus if I so choose, I could lead them far away from you, then teleport quickly to your position. Besides, Rhodes has a limit to how many he can make. He said so while fighting in the Force Works HQ

We don't know what the limit is. It could be hundreds.

Also, having the spots destroyed in that scan doesn't seem to be harming him.



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Originally posted by Blair Wind
You come up with the most brilliant ideas! big grin I could just let it go into the spotted realm. Whats it gonna do then but eventually go into another spot below it? eek!

Uh huh... Yup great idea. That's just great for those Sperm Whales you plan on sicking on me.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Your not understanding spots. Spots can be spot to spot travel, OR they can be spot to dimension to spot travel (evidence would be the million times a punch goes from one spot to the next, yet in the spotted dimension no two spots are that close.).

So you see, I could just fire a random shot through a spot, and redirect it where I want it.

You do have a limited number of Spots, you know. You insist they'll cover 80% of your body, yet your putting hundreds all across the field.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Almost 80% of my body is for lack of a better word insubstantial. What are you going to be blasting? confused I have the speed advantage in my teleporting. I could lead them away, draw them into the spotted realm, and close the "door". You have a finite number of drones you can make AND you can only have 2 independent constructs on the field.

I'll command them to self destruct if that happens, and make a replacement.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
no expression I want you to READ the scan.

A) She said it was a design flaw
B) Ironman tech>>>> Sentinel tech
C) IF people want to believe that she can get through my scanners, I have my standard watch (Pre-Extremis actually has its perks for me laughing out loud ) which staved off Mentallos mind attack and it has no scanners. He had psi scramblers that worked against Onslaught. Sorry, but your NOT gonna be mind raping me anytime soon.

It's nothing really about the tech. Scanners send signals out, she rides them back in.

Mentallo actualy did get past Ironmans shields. Great argument.


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
I want to know what your going to do against the whales (eh I decided to throw them in their for the fun of it), the fact that I can easily create a spot between the armor and your face and send the ADAMANTIUM missile straight for a headshot, or the spotcuffs. Absolute zero you dont seem to comprehend so I wont bother asking.

Well guess what, we don't know emma's head is her weakness.

http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?...v2141p12lm3.jpg
http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?...v2141p17dm7.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?...v2141p18of9.jpg

She got fixed, no flaw anymore. and you don't know it's on her forehead.

Abserve, Danger may have SAID he could shatter her, but later on... He doesn't. If he could kill her so easily, why does he blackmail her instead?

http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?...ned22bh8pj9.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?...ned23ib6rp1.jpg


So... I have Working TP. No flaw.

I have an Emma that stays alive when she's shattered, and double layered healing factors (So you'll have a healuva time keeping me down.)

He, on the other hand, does NOT have Spots on 80% of his body, since he put so many of him on the battlefield. I can beat him to a pulp.

Ninja Curtis FTW.


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