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Quasar With the UN vs. Reed Richards with the UN

Based upon on Panel Feats, who wielded the Un better? Who by on panel showings, would win if they were to attack each other at the exact same moment.

Keep in mind that Wonder Woman wielding the Godwave is much different than Ares wielding the same Godwave, is much different than Cronos wielding the very same Godwave. So saying that they are the same is not acceptible.

Now debate.


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If both reed and quasar was wielding the UN against the same opponent we can compare feats imo.
The IG and Abarax are completely different targets.

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If both reed and quasar was wielding the UN against the same opponent we can compare feats imo.
The IG and Abarax are completely different targets.


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If both reed and quasar was wielding the UN against the same opponent we can compare feats imo.
The IG and Abarax are completely different targets.


My Point exactly. Which is why one can't say that the IG can stop The UN when being used in a multiversal realigning fashion. Two differnt targets. Now debate.


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Re: Quasar With the UN vs. Reed Richards with the UN

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Based upon on Panel Feats, who wielded the Un better? Who by on panel showings, would win if they were to attack each other at the exact same moment.
When those two used the UN, they were using it in completely different ways, trying to accomplish completely different tasks.


Quasar didn't want to destroy even a single Universe, just eliminate Magus..

Whereas Reed was actually trying to reset to Multiverse.




So basically, we can't use those feats to say that the UN was weaker when Quasar used it, then it was when Reed used it [which is what you're trying to do]. smile


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When those two used the UN, they were using it in completely different ways, trying to accomplish completely different tasks.


Quasar didn't want to destroy even a single Universe, just eliminate Magus..

Whereas Reed was actually trying to reset to Multiverse.




So basically, we can't use those feats to say that the UN was weaker when Quasar used it, then it was when Reed used it [which is what you're trying to do]. smile


Then surely we can say that when Wonder Woman uses the Godwave, she could in fact beat MJJ since Cronos using the Godwave surely beat up everone in heaven.


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When those two used the UN, they were using it in completely different ways, trying to accomplish completely different tasks.


Quasar didn't want to destroy even a single Universe, just eliminate Magus..

Whereas Reed was actually trying to reset to Multiverse.




So basically, we can't use those feats to say that the UN was weaker when Quasar used it, then it was when Reed used it [which is what you're trying to do]. smile


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Simple, effective wisdom.


Not really. I"m actually picking your UN<IG argument apart by showing a direct comparison. Unless you concede that WW using the God wave she is indeed superior To MJJ since the same Godwave wielded by Cronos defeated everyone in heaven.


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Not really. I"m actually picking your UN<IG argument apart by showing a direct comparison. Unless you concede that WW using the God wave she is indeed superior To MJJ since the same Godwave wielded by Cronos defeated everyone in heaven.


I don't need to debate this:
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Originally posted by Galan007
When those two used the UN, they were using it in completely different ways, trying to accomplish completely different tasks.


Quasar didn't want to destroy even a single Universe, just eliminate Magus..

Whereas Reed was actually trying to reset to Multiverse.




So basically, we can't use those feats to say that the UN was weaker when Quasar used it, then it was when Reed used it [which is what you're trying to do]. smile


That says it all.


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I don't need to debate this:


That says it all.


What ever you say. Basically you can't. Unless you concede the even tho Wonder WOman on panel has NEVER used the GODWAVE as effective as Ares or Cronos, she should be able to beat the crap out of pretty much anyone becuz after all, it's the same Godwave.


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What ever you say. Basically you can't. Unless you concede the even tho Wonder WOman on panel has NEVER used the GODWAVE as effective as Ares or Cronos, she should be able to beat the crap out of pretty much anyone becuz after all, it's the same Godwave.
Listen...

IF Quasar would have tried, and failed to reset the Multiverse as Reed did..... THEN you could say the UN was weaker during the IG series, then it is today.


But you're trying to use two completely different UN uses, as a basis for some kind of recent UN power-up.



That's just flawed logic imo. erm


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"Based upon on Panel Feats, who wielded the Un better? Who by on panel showings, would win if they were to attack each other at the exact same moment"

Reed/Reed

On panel quasar was sweating and nervous,he tried despertly to find any info he could on the UN,i would say reed-both cases


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Originally posted by starlock
"Based upon on Panel Feats, who wielded the Un better? Who by on panel showings, would win if they were to attack each other at the exact same moment"

Reed/Reed

On panel quasar was sweating and nervous,he tried despertly to find any info he could on the UN,i would say reed-both cases


Exactly. Thus proving that Reed Wielding the UN against someone wielding and incomplete IG would have compeletely different results.


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Exactly. Thus proving that Reed Wielding the UN against someone wielding and incomplete IG would have compeletely different results.


"thus proving?"



I haven't seen anything proven.

Again, this post says it all:
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Originally posted by Galan007
When those two used the UN,

they were using it in completely different ways,

trying to accomplish completely different tasks.


Quasar didn't want to destroy even a single Universe, just eliminate Magus..

Whereas Reed was actually trying to reset to Multiverse.




So basically,

we can't use those feats to say that the UN was weaker when Quasar used it,

then it was when Reed used it [which is what you're trying to do]. smile


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I like this one too:
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Originally posted by Galan007
Listen...

IF Quasar would have tried, and failed to reset the Multiverse as Reed did.....

THEN you could say the UN was weaker during the IG series, then it is today.


But you're trying to use two completely different UN uses,

as a basis for some kind of recent UN power-up.



That's just flawed logic imo. erm


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Originally posted by Galan007
Listen...

IF Quasar would have tried, and failed to reset the Multiverse as Reed did..... THEN you could say the UN was weaker during the IG series, then it is today.


But you're trying to use two completely different UN uses, as a basis for some kind of recent UN power-up.



That's just flawed logic imo. erm


Actually You are using someone elses flawed logic to try and back up the fact that they DID indeed use the UN for different uses and thus differnt power lvls. You CANNOT EVER say that the IG is more powerful than the UN being used by Reed to set the multiverse when there is absolutely concretely NO evidence to suggest this. Has the IG ever been used on Multiple realities at once? And I"m not talking about the magus envisioning thus. I'm talking about realities created by the MultiEternity and thus taken over by an IG wielder. No. Has an ig wielder ever EVER shown power of the multieternity or a multiversal being? Nope. Not ever.


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On panel quasar was sweating and nervous,


Remember though,

Quasar was nervous because he didn't want to wipe out the Universe by mistake,

he only wanted to concentrate the UN on Magus:

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Reed has been dealing with the UN since the UN's first appearance,

so Reed is more familiar with it.


But the UN is like the IG, it doesn't matter who wields it,

the power at your disposal is the same.

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he tried despertly to find any info he could on the UN,


That was Quasar's first dealings with the UN.

Unfortunately he didn't get a history lesson like Reed did from Uatu about the UN.


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Remember though,

Quasar was nervous because he didn't want to wipe out the Universe by mistake,

he only wanted to concentrate the UN on Magus:

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Reed has been dealing with the UN since the UN's first appearance,

so Reed is more familiar with it.


But the UN is like the IG, it doesn't matter who wields it,

the power at you disposal is the same.



That was Quasar's first dealings with the UN.

Unfortunately he didn't get a history lesson like Reed did from Uatu about the UN.


UM WRONG!!! We have already seen that differnt users get differnt results. And quasar was scared he would wipe out the universe. REED wiped out the multiverse.


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UM WRONG!!! We have already seen that differnt users get differnt results. And quasar was scared he would wipe out the universe. REED wiped out the multiverse.


I am not a fan of Reed, but he wins


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UM WRONG!!! We have already seen that differnt users get differnt results.


Especially when they have Different Tasks to perform. confused

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And quasar was scared he would wipe out the universe.


Because he didn't need to or wanted to.

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REED wiped out the multiverse.


Because he had too.


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