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Quasar With the UN vs. Reed Richards with the UN
Based upon on Panel Feats, who wielded the Un better? Who by on panel showings, would win if they were to attack each other at the exact same moment.
Keep in mind that Wonder Woman wielding the Godwave is much different than Ares wielding the same Godwave, is much different than Cronos wielding the very same Godwave. So saying that they are the same is not acceptible.
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My Point exactly. Which is why one can't say that the IG can stop The UN when being used in a multiversal realigning fashion. Two differnt targets. Now debate.
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Re: Quasar With the UN vs. Reed Richards with the UN
When those two used the UN, they were using it in completely different ways, trying to accomplish completely different tasks.
Quasar didn't want to destroy even a single Universe, just eliminate Magus..
Whereas Reed was actually trying to reset to Multiverse.
So basically, we can't use those feats to say that the UN was weaker when Quasar used it, then it was when Reed used it [which is what you're trying to do].
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Then surely we can say that when Wonder Woman uses the Godwave, she could in fact beat MJJ since Cronos using the Godwave surely beat up everone in heaven.
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Not really. I"m actually picking your UN<IG argument apart by showing a direct comparison. Unless you concede that WW using the God wave she is indeed superior To MJJ since the same Godwave wielded by Cronos defeated everyone in heaven.
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What ever you say. Basically you can't. Unless you concede the even tho Wonder WOman on panel has NEVER used the GODWAVE as effective as Ares or Cronos, she should be able to beat the crap out of pretty much anyone becuz after all, it's the same Godwave.
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Listen...
IF Quasar would have tried, and failed to reset the Multiverse as Reed did..... THEN you could say the UN was weaker during the IG series, then it is today.
But you're trying to use two completely different UN uses, as a basis for some kind of recent UN power-up.
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Actually You are using someone elses flawed logic to try and back up the fact that they DID indeed use the UN for different uses and thus differnt power lvls. You CANNOT EVER say that the IG is more powerful than the UN being used by Reed to set the multiverse when there is absolutely concretely NO evidence to suggest this. Has the IG ever been used on Multiple realities at once? And I"m not talking about the magus envisioning thus. I'm talking about realities created by the MultiEternity and thus taken over by an IG wielder. No. Has an ig wielder ever EVER shown power of the multieternity or a multiversal being? Nope. Not ever.
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UM WRONG!!! We have already seen that differnt users get differnt results. And quasar was scared he would wipe out the universe. REED wiped out the multiverse.