This thread was done previously and putting Iron man it was a mistake. I forgot who said it but even though i think he is good and became even better he would be torn open like a can of sardines so i made a couple o' changes to the marvel roster to give DC a run for its money.
Martian Manhunter
Wonder Woman (standard equipment)
Aquaman
Superman
Green Lantern
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Aquaman is the Weak Link here. He isn't as strong or as fast or as powerful as the Other four and he can't fly. Leaving the Four in the air to fight the five. Replace Aquaman with element lad or metamorpho or Firestorm and you have a much better fight.
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present configuration. Marvel stroll it.
Iceman takes out Aquaman and Wonder Woman, since neither are up there with the lightspeed reactions and neither has anything that tops Iceman's powers. Sentry runs interference if necessary.
Thor batters down Superman with mjolnir, while Gladiator runs interference and generally keeps Superman from speeding away from Thor's blows
Surfer takes out MM and GL.
MM (like Aquaman) really isn't to be pitted against any of these guys, imo. he's not in their league. GL is probably the biggest threat on the DC team but he's not got anything over or matching Surfer, and also, he's easily drained (Oan energy can be drained/absorbed by Surfer). on top of that, if Surfer just keeps attacking, the ring will soon run out of juice... under the awesome pressures that SS can bring to bear.
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OMG. LOL. WW doesn't have lightspeed reactions and speed? WTF. WW hits iceman with her magic lasso and the fight ends right there.
Thor batters down superman? As if thor can hit superman when he's so much faster. MM can easily take away gladiator's confidence and he's down for the count from aquaman. And Shame on you for thinking that GL hal isn't a match for the surfer. GL can just absorb surfer into the ring for the win. Or take his soul. How what? You actually said surfer takes out HAL and GL. I just know you are playing. Any way, Aquaman is the weak link.
Iceman's everywhere on the level of consciousness... so what's the lasso going to tie up, an icle, whilst Iceman is inside of her freezing her brain?
did you read what I wrote, I said Gladiator would be holding back Superman, if necessary, because Superman is faster than Thor. it's a double team so that mjolnir can effectively connect with Superman.
Hal? wha? did you read what I wrote? I said MM & GL, because I see MM as the 2nd weak link in that group (besides Aquaman).
as for MM - Gladiator, he wouldn't get the chance to face Gladiator, Surfer would handle him first, at the same time as Iceman destroys Aquaman, so that they can stroll through the rest of the field with greater numbers.
Surfer has absorbed Oan energy, huge amounts of it. he's also beaten Kyle, whereas the GLs are shown to require recharging and are prone to run out of juice after extensive use of the ring - which a Surfer onslaught would make inevitable.
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Kyle's ring never ran out of juice that I'm aware of. And so far hal's hasn't either. The rings have infinte amount of charge for a limited time if i remember correctly. So unless surfer and Hall gonna be fighting for over 24 hours your theory is out of the window. Also you are using a non cannon book to justify the surfer absorbing energy. In the same book, kyle was able to pwn thanos if I remember correctly. WW lasso only need touch a part of anything that Iceman's mind would be in for him to be down for the count. and If you think Surfer takes MM and Hal, you aren't well informed on either. WW could stalemate Thor and Superman will beat Glads. this fight really is only leaning in marvel's favor becuz of Aquaman's being here. And MM can take out iceman easily enough with telepathy. don't forget that.
Cassandra Nova took out Gladiator by telepathically manipulating him with relative ease. I don't see why Martian Manhunter couldn't do the same.
With Iceman it would probably depend on how much benefit of the doubt one gives him. When he was in a vapor form during X-Men Forever; Jean couldn't really locate his consciousness as it was seemingly everywhere at once. But he could probably still be taken out with telepathy by a more skilled and/or powerful telepath either way.
when did I say Hal and Kyle?
I said he'd take MM and a GL.
MM because he's got nothing that can affect Surfer, tp included, and isn't up there with the defensive abilities (bar intangibility).
Surfer's been pwned with Telepathy before, and J'onn's still a major threat here; Surfer's screwed if he battles a GL worth his salt, and J'onn at the same time
Current Silver Surfer was able to take out Ravenous relatively easy. Nova admitted that he wasn't able to match Ravenous and that no one but Red Shift or Stardust would be able to knock him out. SS isn't your average Herald after the upgrade he got from Galactus. Why would Galactus bother to give him a minor upgrade?
Surfer would probably lose or win after a long fight if he went up against MM or a GL, but it's not like saying that he would beat one of them is overrating them. He's beating herald class people in under a minute now.