Maximum Impact
1.(Mind) Black Knight
2.(Body) Colossus
3.(Powers) Cannonball
vs
Indigo Deathdancer
1.(Mind) Spiral
2.(Body) Death's Head II
3.(Powers) Indigo
Location- 2. A swimming pool with the dimensions of Manhattan, and as deep as the Empire State Building, but filled with jello. The swimming pool itself is made of the same synthetic material that Shaggy Man is made out of, so it is destructible but heals almost instantaneously. The fight itself is on Pluto, and breathable atmosphere exists only within the swimming pool, though it doesn't have a top.
first, a bit of cleaning up and a little reminder of what kali is:
in my first rd, I pretty firmly established the fact that kali now has access to 6 arms. Think of each of Spiral’s artificial/non-natural arms as a single one of wolverine’s claws. We know that at times, rogue can assume the NATURAL physical characteristics of the person she touches, but she does NOT gain the artificial traits of said character – she could gain wolverine’s BONE claws, because they are naturally a part of him, but NOT his adamantium claws because they are not and were GRAFTED to his person, like spiral’s additional arms were grafted to HER person. Therefore, when spiral’s mind took over rogue’s body and sprouted 6 arms, those arms were a result of SPIRAL’s taking control of the body, and NOT rogue’s powers to manifest said arms.
However, if even THAT is not convincing enough, spiral could always simply use matter manipulation ON HERSELF (perfectly legal) to grant herself 6 arms. As you can see from the scan, based on what she did to storm, creating 6 arms for herself would be very simple – especially in light of the fact she is in a near-fully cybernetic body.
okay, so with that formality out of the way, it’s important everyone recalls exactly what kali is: she is a cl100, technopathic sorceress, capable of acting and thinking/spell-casting at computer speeds. Locked inside the dhii mind that is fully functional thanks to b8's technopathy, are 107 distinct and deadly personalities and skill sets, including those of the recently deceased black panther. all 6 cl100 arms are capable of morphing into any edged-type weapon I can imagine, or into enormously powerful blast-type weapons.
So, what do I do with this near-perfect killing machine in my prep? I make her better.
at the start of the prep time, kali instantly teleports to the body shoppe. Once there, she gets busy enhancing her near-perfect body. Recall that spiral is enormously gifted when it comes to genetic/cybernetic manipulation and the body shoppe is her playground. Here are just a couple things she has been capable of:
the first scans (recall she changed lady deathstrike from human to cyborg in the space of a SINGLE night) are very important because they show that along with all the other goodies the body shoppe is stacked with, it also has a supply of . . .
Adamantium.
now, even WITHOUT being able to think and act at computer speeds, it would be a simple task for spiral to work adamantium into her completely thought-controlled, morphable arms. But she DOES have computer speeds AND access to dhii’s 100+ personalities, one of which is a man named czornn whose expertise just happens to be . . .
weapon-making. but not just any weapons – EDGED weapons, weapons made for one purpose – cutting.
so, we have spiral’s expertise in genetics (and her ability to use matter manipulation on herself and any of the tech/materials she requires), backed by czornn’s profound knowledge of edged weapons, backed by b8's processing speed and dhii’s morphable appendages, all turned to a single task: creating and attaching 6 retractable, single, adamantium claws, (one on each arm) each about 2 feet long that look and act exactly like slightly curved swords.
Again, all the materials are present, this is spiral and czornn’s areas of expertise and spiral now has MORE than ample speed to perform the enhancements. on top of that, she is working with a fully morphable cybernetic body with a HIGHLY accomplished healing factor designed to be the ultimate killing machine.
This task is WELL within the logical capabilities of kali.
The fact that the attachments are sword-like means she will be extremely well-versed in how to use them (she is obviously an expert swordsperson).
With the task completed, she teleports back to the prep area, prepares a spell and enters the battlefield.
BATTLE
throughout this battle you must always keep in mind 2 things:
(1) he can NEVER hit me unless I allow him to. My tactical teleportation will allow me to stay out of his range of attack for as long as I want to.
I will completely and at all times dictate how this battle takes place.
If I don’t want him to be near me, I port away and he can do nothing about it save chase me.
(2) at no time is his blast field an issue. With a single wave of one hand, I can render the field useless (not by negating it, but simply by penetrating it).
his blast field offers him ZERO protection from me in this battle.
Okay, so, with that in mind, I set about killing him.
there are a couple options that kali considers as she enters the battle, but in both, she first uses a combination of spiral’s senses/ltd pre-cog and indy’s scanning abilities, to figure out exactly where MI is. Once she has that info, kali teleports behind him. The instant I arrive behind him, I unleash my spell which allows me to disable his forcefield (bear in mind his swords – tucked away behind his shield as they are) will be UNABLE TO ABSORB MY SPELL. Once the field is down THEN he might be able to deal with my magic, but he can’t have his cake and eat it too. When he’s in the blast field, his sword’s abilities are neutered (unless he cuts through and disrupts his own field, which works just as well for me. smile )
so, once the field is down, I simply engage him in h2h combat. Now here, he may either be using BOTH swords OR one sword and his shield. Either way it doesn’t matter. In close, I can easily parry both his blades (or grab both his sword arms, whichever is easiest) then simultaneously blast him with 2 arms while driving my adamantium attachments through his eyeholes. Now, it is true that colossus’s body has withstood wolverine’s claws in the past, however, that it NOT because his body is harder than adamantium. It is because wolverine LACKS THE STRENGTH TO CUT COLOSSUS. Dhii is a cl100 being. Adamantium coupled with dhii’s strength will easily pierce colossus’s body, and both blades will enter into his brain and kill him. If he has his shield out I simply grab hold of his shield and stab under it. Either way, the undeniable fact is this:
I have simply too many arms for him to effectively combat. Each is armed with adamantium blades, backed by cl100 strength, and each is capable of moving/reacting at computer speeds. Once I am in close, there is literally nothing he can do to stop me from dissecting him. Like there was nothing nightcrawler (a HIGHLY accomplished swordsman in his own right) could do against spiral – and he had THREE blades!
using my senses and teleporting ability, I find him and reach him. Using a prepped spell, I penetrate his blast field and force him to engage me h2h. Despite his expertise and his swords’ ability to cut through almost anything, they CANNOT cut through adamantium. I parry his blades but still have FOUR arms free to stab him through the eyes and blast him at close range (unless he has his shield up then I simply grapple past the shield and stab him some more. )
there is no way he can avoid me (my limited precog prevents that, just as northstar had no way to avoid me in the first rd), no way he can prevent me penetrating his blast field, and no way, once we are in close combat, to prevent me from brutally running my blades through his eyeholes, or mouth, or whatever tiny exposed area there is on his body.
In short, there really isn’t anything he can do against me at all.
Just to note - you copied pasted the links in false way in Newjak's post (or they were like that to begin with) - with KMC's crazy way to shorten links, that has to be taken in the account...
Ok let's be serious here my prep time for this match pretty much just has me saying Avalon and get my Blast shield and armor form up. Although to clarify I will be going in with my shield on my back and my two swords drawn.
Maybe eat a bowl of jell-o and listen to my theme music to get pumped
Theme Music:
Battle
Ok then like most of my battles I like to set certain perimeters just to let people know what is happening.
The most important is that Spiral basically becomes useless in this fight. Why because his magic will not effect me. My Ebony Blade is very potent at protecting me from Magic heck I even have a scan of BK already resisting Spiral's Magic directly. http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?...bkspiralau2.jpg
With those two magic immunity's working together no Spell Leo could dream up would effect my guy.
With that out of the way another hot topic is has been Spirals' arms just forming out of DH's body. Now I'm normally all for cool factors but his only evidence to support this comes from one instance with Rouge. Now my thinking, if I were a Judge, is how can we support Leo's claim when the only instance he can show is a mutant whose power is to absorb the ability of other beings even their physical characteristics.
So he doesn't have six arms he only has two which, unless he can show a scan of how fast he can work with only two arms, means the spells that may would work like teleportation and phasing will be useless because they would take to long to do.
This means he really is only operating with two characters for this fight essentially, DH2 and Indigo. Now we all should know by now DH2 body isn't going to stand up to my blades and Indigo's blasts aren't going to hurt Colossus' body or break through my blast shield.
The only other part left about this match is whether or not my sword will be able to get through Indigo's shield which Leo already know the answer and the answer is yes. Just ask Kang the Conquerer http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/...ldslice2wa5.jpg
So then what is going to happen. Leo will probably try to convince everyone his superior H2H skill is going to help him. You know BP's and Spiral's skill put together which is true but let's be honest he doesn't have a weapon that will stand up to mine. He can not disarm me as Leo already knows. He can not hurt me thanks to my durability and he sure isn't overpowering Colossus.
So all this boils down to is Leo delaying me getting the killing blow on him. There really is no other outcome to this fight.
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not much to respond to in nj's post, but i'm sorta bored, so here we go:
LEO'S POST #1
1. spiral's arms
again, i defended this ad nauseum last time rd, and it was accepted by the judges then. it really is simple:
nightcrawler's NATURAL appearance is the dark elf form. rogue can absorb this NATURAL form.
colossus's NATURAL form when he uses his power is metal. rogue can absorb this NATURAL form.
magus is NATURALLY a techno-morph. it's his NATURAL form. rogue can absorb this NATURAL form.
wolverine's BONE CLAWS are a NATURAL extension of his body. angel's WINGS are NATURAL extensions of his body. rogue can absorb these NATURAL forms.
wolverine's ADAMANTIUM CLAWS are NOT natural parts of him. she cannot absorb his adamantium claws, or skeleton. they are NOT natural parts of his body.
spiral's arms were grafted to her body magically -- they are NOT natural appendages, like wolverine's adamantium is not natural. one of her arms is completely cybernetic! how could rogue have gained THAT arm? not to mention none of the arms rogue gained were cybernetic!
all the arms appear . . . clawed, demonic. certainly none of them appear to be cybernetic.
spiral is a supernatural being, who just does . . . weird things. gaining the arms is one of them.
oh, and if you don't like that explanation (not sure why you wouldn't . . .) i just use matter manip on myself to give me the additional arms.
2. magic immunity
irrelevent because i'm not using magic except to get through his blast field. and that spell WILL be effective, despite his swords, because as i said, his swords are BEHIND the shield. if the blast field isn't up, i don't use the spell. simple. either way, i engage him h2h. he has two swords, i have 6 adamantium ones.
2 arms vs 6 arms? i . . . don't like his odds.
so . . . my initial write-up and plan of attack remain firm and utterly indefensible from nj's standpoint.
he will NO DOUBT question both my ability to possess 6 arms (not sure how you argue the ability to use matter manip on myself though, even if for whatever reason you don't like my other explanation . . .) and will have questions about the process whereby i gained my adamantium.
neither issue is really arguable. through matter manip or just her own supernatural state of being, kali HAS 6 arms. given the tasks spiral has performed on her OWN in the body shoppe (making children ADULTS and turning a woman into lady deathstrike), and the length of time it took for her to perform said tasks (a single night for one, a day for the other and in BOTH cases the bulk of time was taken to make sure the human bodies didn't DIE in the process -- with dhii's durability and healing factor, that will NOT be a concern, NOR are the changes anywhere NEAR as drastic as either of the ones i showed in my initial post) the idea of grafting adamantium to her completely morphable, computer-enhanced form is rather trivial. using:
1. czornn's near-perfect knowledge of edged weapons
2. her OWN knowledge of transmutation and matter manip skills
3. indigo's computer speeds, multi-tasking abilities, and morphing powers
4. dhii's healing/morphing powers
the idea that she can grant herself the adamantium enhancements really is an utterly logical one.
so, a quick recap:
i teleport to him, take down his blast field and engage him in h2h. my 6 armed assault easily overcomes his 2 armed defense, i am easily strong enough to drive adamantium through even colossus's metallic form.
no spells, no force fields, nothing fancy. just 100% effective.
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Last edited by leonidas on Jul 4th, 2007 at 03:14 AM
Leo has played directly into my guy. He has chosen to take me in a close up fight the one place he doesn't want to be. I'll explain a couple of things though.
First off the rouge feat:
Excuse but all of those grafted arms at one time were organic were they not and they were as natural a part of her body as her head. They were attached and completely bound to her nervous system. Now say if Nighcralwer lost an arm and had a Cybernetic one put on and Rouge absorbed his power. It isn't like all her body would be covered in fur except the arm Nightcrawler lost. No her entire body would be covered.
Spiral's arms were at one time all Organic and all attached to her body. Leo is assuming that just because she had one Cybernetic arm at that time that Spiral had forced her form upon Rouge. Take it for what it is Leo. Rouge absorbing Spiral's Form and Spiral simply gaining control of it. There really isn't anything else special about it, Rouge absorbed the organic form that Spiral had before.
Second point prep time:
We only have ten minutes of Prep and the process that gave Lady Deathstrike two arms with Adamntium did take all night. That is quite few hours that you are trying to stretch into the span of ten minutes. I mean you are trying to grant yourself 6 arms and equip all of those arms with Adamntium. I don't see even with DH2's computer brain you taking a process that takes hours and refining it into a ten minute process. By the way the weaponsmith guy is only helpful if he has worked with admantium before.
So then let's take this back. You don't start off 6 arms and the span of time you are working with compared to the time you have shown are completely different, the feats 100 of times greater ithen the time you are working with now. Not exactly fool proof logic you're working with.
Third point my blast shield:
Is a bio-chemical burst from my body meaning it something my body takes in and is therefore granted the same protection as my physical body (Thanks to Colossus' Immunity) so your spell isn't working.
Plus my swords are not hampered by the blast shield and neither is my shield. My blast shield only covers the things Cannonball wants them to cover. It's the reason why every time Cannonball hits someone they don't get his shield.
So my Swords and Shield are not hampered by the Blast Shield not are you taking it away from me at any point.
Fourth point being your matte manip:
I will grant you the fact that your matter manip will give you six armas whether they have Admantium is in doubt very much so. But you also assume the arms you will grant yourself will be class 100 level. Show me anywhere where Spiral has ever created anything with Class 100 strength capabilities. Heck your biggest one was Lady Deathstrike and she is far from class 100.
So you may have 6 arms but only two will be class 100 the other 4 will be whatever level you can prove that Spiral can do which so far is only Lady Deathstrike level not exactly very strong. So cutting off your much weaker arms will not be a problem.
So then now that is out of the way let me get down to some other points of Leos.
So him thinking he is going to attack me without me knowing is false.
Another point he is failing to address is that my guy still has his body armor which is still quite durable in its own right. In fact it is able to take shots from Titanium Blades without being scathed: (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image)
So you add that to Colossus' own durability and I doubt even class 100 Adamantium Shots are going to cut straight through me. That is of course if I had my Blast shield down which it doesn't.
So to Summarize:
-Leo can not prove that it simply wasn't Rouge taking on the previous Organic Arms that Spiral has had before the far more plausable thing considering it is Rouge
-He can not prove that he can take a process that takes many, many hours on two arms and refine in the matter of ten minutes.
-He is wrong with him catching me by surprise because I can see and sense Magic
-He just flat out wrong that my swords and shield are behind the blast field
-My Blast Field is protected by Colossus' natural immunity to Magic and my swords are always added bonuses
-He may have six arms but the do not possess Adamantium and the four arms he added on he can not prove they are even class 100 to begin with because Spiral has never possessed the ability to grant someone class 100 cybernetics.
Basically Leo is going to teleport close to me hope his magic gets past my Blast Field then hope his strength is good enough to get past both my armor and Colossus's body all while avoiding me stabbing him which I can guarantee my weapons will slice and dice him with ease he can not. My guy is still way more durable and stronger and has magic immunity and that is what Leo is solely relying on getting by my Blast field.
Plus he is going to try and attack me from behind which my shield absorb anyways.
Face Leo you are screwed your entire plan revolves around could be and what ifs while once again my plan is basically fool proof cut you with weapons you can not take one hit from. He can not prove he will refine a many hour process into ten minutes. So it is debatable whether he can even block my attacks.
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Last edited by Newjak on Jul 4th, 2007 at 04:23 AM
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POST 2
so, let's have at it:
no. one of her added arms was ALWAYS fully cybernetic, another is half cybernetic (and is sometimes shown as fully cybernetic also -- see below) and NONE of the grafted arms were ever "natural". she was once a normal human being. the arms were bonded to her as an act of humiliation by mojo, using both magic AND cybernetics. are the added arms fully organic? impossible to say, but given their superstrength, i'd say no, they are not simply organic, but rather techno-organic.
i'll not belabor the point though because it has become irrelevent thanks to this:
cool. so i have 6 arms, no question about it and we can all agree. but:
first, lady deathstrike was HUMAN to begin with, so what she did to her HUMAN form is irrelevent to this discussion. the body she is CURRENTLY working with IS a fully cybernetic, morphable cl100 entity. the arms are an extension of that body, whether by matter manip or by possession of the dhii form a la rogue. either way, it . . . defies sense to believe the arms would be anything LESS than the originals.
as far as "proof" concerning her abilities to 'create' anything with cl100 strength, of course there IS no proof -- there IS proof that her OVERALL level of power should be more than sufficient to the task though:
reverts colossus from armor TO human and changes him into a child via an ectoplasmic spell (oops, so much for colossus's vaunted 'magical invulnerability . . .):
those scans should be MORE than sufficient to prove her powerlevel is up to the task of affecting cl100-type changes, and EASILY granting her dhii body, cl100 arms.
but . . . JUST in case you STILL don't buy it, the dhii body ITSELF can morph some additional appendages WITHOUT SPIRAL'S HELP:
so, (for those keeping track) that now gives me THREE ways to explain having 6 arms. spiral's possession of the body, spiral's matter manip, OR dhii's OWN body creating the appendages.
next order of business:
it was inevitable that he would challenge the time frame in which i implemented my prep.
so, let's take a look at what spiral alone did in, say, 6hrs?
she literally RECREATED lady deathstrike. she transformed her from a human into a cyborg AND grafted into place TEN adamantium blades. now, at the time, LDS had no healing factor to protect her from the process. that is an issue, because the transformations are very dangerous and must be allowed to happen at their own speed:
"EXTREMELY DELICATE". human bodies are fragile and do not take kindly or easily to being 'recreated'. (oh, and as an aside -- note the TWO FULLY CYBERNETIC ARMS in the image. how could rogue have gained THOSE arms??)
her current body of course HAS no such limitations. she can do pretty well whatever she wants to the dhii body without risking it in anyway. it's healing factor is second to none in this event and combined with the morphability bestowed on the body by dhii itself AND indigo, the only issue is getting the adamantium shaped. here i have czornn's expertise in weapon-making and edged weapons to call upon, indy's speed and spiral's magic/matter manip. kali's ability to use magic/manipulation to shape the attachments in the given time is utterly logical, and the idea that magic CAN affect adamantium has also been established in the past:
adamantium backed by sufficient force CAN penetrate colossus's metallic form.
so, to review:
-- 6 arms? check. use whatever explanation you like.
-- 6 cl100 arms? check.
-- 6 cl100 arms WITH adamantium blade attachments? check. for the sake of argument, even if you believe 6 is too many -- cut it in half to THREE and i STILL have too many arms for nj's guy to stop in h2h combat.
-- adamantium can penetrate colossus? check.
-- spiral's magic can affect colossus even in his armored form? check.
-- i can create and implement my adamantium attachments in the alloted time? check.
now, my favourite part, the blast field:
that was actually pretty nice, nj. well thought-out. but . . .
from marvel.com: "Cannonball possesses the ability to bodily generate THERMO-chemical energy and release it from his skin."
also from marvel.com: "[Colossus] can survive extremes of temperature from 70 degrees above absolute zero (-390 degrees Fahrenheit) to approximately 9000 Fahrenheit."
it is also known colossus does not sweat, and that even his insides and eyes become metal. in his metal form, colossus is no longer even human. his bodily and chemical reactions would be utterly different from sam's or ANY human's. so, if he is in fact completely different from sam in all ways, how does he generate a thermal blast from skin that resists temperatures of 9000F?
answer: he doesn't.
oops.
the only LOGICAL way colossus could generate the blast field is if he is in his HUMAN form. you know, the one that has NO magical resistance at all.
not that it really matters, i suppose, since i already showed spiral's magic CAN actually affect him -- badly -- thereby allowing him to affect the blast field even GIVEN your explanation.
i just like to give the judges options.
next, this little tidbit:
kind of a weak attempt.
from marvel.com: "Cannonball's blast field extends to any person or object with which he is in physical contact."
nowhere does it say ANYWHERE that he can selectively control what he covers with it. the reason those he strikes don't get into the shield, is, well, because they are OUTSIDE the shield.
the swords ARE hampered by the blast field, unless it is not up -- which it won't be for long anyway.
the rest of the post in pretty meaningless. even supposing he CAN sense me, he can't DO anything about it. i teleport to him then penetrate his field, engage him in h2h, and kill him.
6 arms>>>>>>2 arms
simple and effective, and as far as nj is concerned, utterly indefensible.
If so then then I guess not all of them are organic but then again that doesn't change the point. Why because her arms have always been a part of her.
So much so that Angel's Paralyzing effect actually effects her even though she was hit in her cybernetic arm: (please log in to view the image)
Now why would a nervous attack on her cybernetic arms actually effect her. Could it be they are and have always been completely attached to her.
Face it Leo Rogue absorbed her physical appearance like Rogue has done to other Organic-Metal people, Cybernetic people.
The problem is that you are only working with the parts that Spiral has possession of in the body shop. Those are the arms you would be grafting to Kali and thus you must prove that Spiral possesses Cybernetics that are capable of class 100 strength.
Well I'm glad we have defined that Spiral has never created anything with class 100 strength.
Nice try Leo but that was before Colossus' upgrade. That is when he gained his magic immunity before the upgrade he was as susceptible to it as a normal person. Thankfully I have Colossus' upgraded body.
Nullifying power doesn't equate to her being able to match the power that she is nullifying or that she can amp someone up to those levels.
Next good word play on the Spiderwoman scan. Enormously, despite the fact that in that scan we see Colossus, CL 100, and even Rogue, CL 50 easily tear the webbing to pieces. So much for the great power boost Spiral gave her.
Also SW is organic you have no proof on how well Spiral's magic could be used to boost mechanical parts.
Except they are not. The only scan you showed of Spiral boosting, Rogue with Cl 50 strength was still strong enough to break through.
I would like to note that with him dividing his arms into 6 ones he would reduce the strength that each possessed seeing as each would have less mass and mechanical parts for strength.
You see this is where I'm having problems you keep saying Indigo's power and Spiral's powers like they actually help.
I hate to tell you this but you do not have Indigo's ability to shape and move metal. Seeing as Madison Jefferies ,Box was banned for the same reason. Just check this link and look at the rules update: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...534#post8731534
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So either the power gets banned or Indigo gets banned either way is fine with me. All she can do is turn on and off machines which isn't every helpful.
And did you actually say Spiral's power is going to help boost and quicken a process that Spiral herself does? Seems to me if she could she would have done it a long time ago.
Czornn is only useful if you can prove he has worked with admantium before
And all Sym did was physically break off the claw he wasn't shown using any magic on it in fact he didn't even shape it which is what you need to do.
***************Now I'll take a break from replying to you because this is as good a time to introduce this point as ever. First let me show the scan Leo has posted earlier: (please log in to view the image)
Spiral informs the other Cyborgs that LD is special and nothing like them. I mean honestly I don't see Spiral possessing large quantities of Adamantium just laying around. Seeing as Spiral has never worked with Admantium before or since I think that either Spiral
a) Procured that Admantium especially for LD or
b) She used all she had to give LD her claws.
Seeing as she doesn't go around creating Adamantium weapons or body parts. So it is in doubt whether you even have the Adamantium to work with.
Ok now back to replying:
You know Leo I was going to use that scan myself but you could at least show the whole scan: (please log in to view the image)
Notice that S'ym at the time is incredibly strong definitely stronger than DH2.
So S'ym who is stronger than DH2 could only get it in about an inch and Colossus simply removed it and it did not effect him for the rest of the fight.
You add on my armor and even with Adamantium your attacks aren't going to do enough damage to hurt me. With my Blast Field you won't do anything to me.
Nice try Leo
But the problem is that the Thermal-chemical is just energy that his body produces. And while Colossus does turn metal his body is still the same he still has a brain, a heart, and now his thermal power.
By the way the Blast Field doesn't leak out of the the skin it surrounds it and all the things inside of him. His skin has nothing to do with it's release: (please log in to view the image)
I was hoping you had read enough of cannonball but oh well if I have to prove it so be it.
Here is Sam using a Table as a weapon: (please log in to view the image)
Here is Sam using an Axe much like a Blade: (please log in to view the image)
Note that at no time was his Blast Field surrounding those items.
Face it Leo have just given on panel proof that destroys any misconception about my Blast field.
So in review:
--He has yet to prove he has any abilities that can speed up a process that took many hours he can not even show that he has enough Adamntium to do what he wants.
--My Blast Field is working just like I said
--I'm still stronger and still a lot more durable to his attacks then he is to mine.
--I can take shots from him. He can not take shots from me.
He talked of simple and effective, my guy is just that. Still impervious to his attacks while he is not. Simply and Effectively put my guy will outlast his no matter what you choose to believe he can throw at me.
so, whatever point you’re attempting to prove is inaccurate because archangel himself was wrong. she went on to use the cybernetic arm just fine after his assault.
so you think if she touched dhii she would asborb all his cybernetic properties too? what about ultron? Nuh-uh . . .
pointless discussion anyway, since you acknowledged i have 6 arms already and i've proven i can grant myself those arms in various ways.
again, huh? i'm using matter manip to CREATE arms, or spiral's simple possession of the body, or dhii's OWN ability to create multiple arms. in NONE of those cases do I 'graft' anything or use any material from the body shoppe, and regardless of which explanation you like best, each only take seconds. matter manip simply alters the body -- the body she is in is cl100. the arms would be as well. beyond that, i showed conclusively that her magic has performed tasks that would make this task a relatively simple one to perform in comparison. not sure where you got the idea rogue broke through amped spiderwoman's webbing though . . . her AND colossus, working together, broke through it. that's a pretty huge feat for spiderwoman as she was shown back then.
not all things NEED to be proven on panel. common sense can be a capable tool as well.
i don't suppose you can say how or when this 'upgrade' happened? Certainly there was no ‘official’ upgrade. anyway, his body can offer protection against SOME magical opponents and spells. didn't help him much in his recent battle against the magical crimson dawn:
in that scan, btw, note who comes to his rescue. yep, spiral saves him AND overcomes barak. so, barak's magic is enough to almost kill colossus, and spiral then overcomes barak. the conclusion that can be drawn from that seems pretty clear to me . . .
so, i've ALREADY shown direct evidence that spiral's magic has affected colossus in the past, now i have shown much more recent evidence that colossus can STILL be affected by magic -- magic that is INFERIOR to spiral's. those things taken together cast some DAMN heavy doubts on the extent of colossus's 'magical protection'. to say the VERY least.
i'm not using her to amp anything . . .
did either arm LOOK less powerful in that scan? and even allowing that each was only cl50, that strength level alone would be enough to drive adamantium through colossus body, considering wolverine himself has been able to scratch it.
again, i have no idea what your driving at. i'm not using indy to 'control' anything. she has a morphing ability, like dhii. only she has it in BOTH arms. i have no idea where the jefferies comparison came from . . .
what indy's and dhii's abilities allow for is the reconstruction of a suitable appendage, one that will instantly integrate the adamantium attachments that will be added on. AND, it's not like the blades even need to be WELL crafted, they simply need to be sharp at the ends.
not at all -- he's a weapon-maker and designer. with adamantium he can simply create a better cutting tool. with spiral's magic and the body shoppe's tech, not to mention indy's computer speed processing and dhii's OWN tactical/technical knowledge, forming 6 single blades is no problem at all.
i only brought it up to show that magic can and has affected adamantium.
speculating on where the adamantium came from is meaningless. what is known as a certainty is that she used adamantium in the body shoppe to create lady deathstrike. anything else strays from on-panel proof and heads off into speculation-land.
in a later confrontation, colossus matches up quite well with s'ym showing s'ym's strength was not that far beyond colossus's classic cl75 strength. dhii is certainly cl100. that claw was also small, and THROWN. my blades are much larger and will be thrust with all my strength into your little eyeholes. S’ym MAY be stronger than dhii, but if he is, it’s not by very much at all.
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POST 4
colossus's body is resistant --HIGHLY resistant – to thermal energy. no way his metal skin would allow the thermal-chemical reaction to occur.
no. logical. way.
ummm . . . you do know your scan doesn't show anything, right? well, actually, it says the thermal-chemical reaction IN and around sam's body . . .
INSIDE his body. released then through the skin. like marvel.com says.
can't be released through steel that resists thermal energy though . . .
bad amalgam meshing, my friend, but a difficult problem to have foreseen. glad i was here to point it out though.
oh, and don't forget -- even if you don't like that tidy explanation for why his blast field is useless in this fight, i showed colossus's magic resistance is NOT what nj would have you believe it is AND that spiral can overcome it.
er, your scans once again are utterly useless. i've read plenty of sam, which is of course why i knew to call bs. are you saying the table was NOT behind his shield?? if it wasn't, it would have been shattered into a million pieces! he touched the table, it went inside the field. like i said.
the axe scan is even WORSE. it HURTS your case. you can see the field fading away AS he tries to grab it. AND FAILS! according to you, he should have been able to keep the field up, grab it, but keep the axe somehow OUTSIDE the field.
makes no sense. he absolutely CANNOT selectively cover objects with his field. if he is touching them directly, they are within the field, like marvel.com says. he is holding the swords. that means if the field is up, they are tucked within the field and neutered.
but, don't worry, the swords are fine since colossus's steel body won't allow him to summon the blast field anyway!
the deathstrike process you are comparing it to is irrelevant. spiral recreated a FULL human-to-cyborg transmutation in that case, and had to be careful not to kill deathstrike in the process. here, all she is doing is adding some blades. the first process was ENORMOUSLY complex. the latter process is simple, especially given all the advantages she has this time around – first among those advantages being fully morphable arms and a healing factor.
i'm thinking not so much . . .
highly doubtful you are stronger. perhaps more durable, but my healing factor will handle any blow that is not an extreme one. not that it matters -- you could never in a million years LAND A BLOW.
6 arms>>>>>>>2 arms
also: your OWN scan showed how easily spiral could teleport out of your range. add indy's computer-speed and you are in slow-motion to me. i could spend eternity avoiding you if i chose.
not in the places I'M hitting you you can't . . .
hmm, perhaps i HAVE been neglecting to show some of dhii's durability. somehow, nj seems to think some sort of glancing blow can kill me, or that he can easily one-shot me or something.
not.
the.
case.
here an alternate wolverine attempts to cut dhii . . .
clearly it will take an exceedingly well placed shot to stop kali. again, that shot is impossible to come by as far as nj's guy is concerned, but i thought dhii needed some luv.
dhii's power supply is effectively limitless. i could choose to simply teleport out of your reach and allow you to deplete your blasting energy. then, when your shield is down, i could attack.
a sonic attack would both break your concentration forcing your blast field to shut down, AND stun you long enough for me to port in and get the drop on you.
with the field down, and you stunned from the sonic barrage, 6 of these type blasts:
all simultaneously launched from different angles and aimed in different places, would ALSO give you a very negative outlook on things. 6 of those would VERY likely ko you without your blast field up, and would certainly stagger you enough to make it logical you would fall off your horse and drop your weapons, leaving yourself WIDE open to my physical attack. hell, even WITHOUT adamantium attachments, dhii was able to do this:
the power the suit contained was said to be enough to rip the heart out of a star. imagine how tough the suit was that dhii cut . . .
even WITHOUT adamantium it is not out of the question that dhii could form blades capable of cutting through colossus’s eyes!
to sum up:
i have shown a multitude of ways that i may go about reaching my goal of killing nj's guy:
1. port to him, penetrate his field and have at him h2h with my 6 arms and adamantium against his 2 arms and swords.
2. i could stay out of his reach and allow his blast energy to deplete THEN attack.
3. i could assault him first with a SONIC attack, staggering him and breaking his concentration. he drops his field, even the horse is affected, he likely drops his swords but at LEAST drops his guard. then i attack with a HUGE energy barrage that WOULD knock from his horse and knock the swords from his hands. it would also likely ko him outright. either way he's weakened to the point i easily kill him.
i have also shown that my healing factor will deal with all but the most mortal of blows, that gaining the adamantium attachments (even if you believe i can't get all 6, THREE would be MORE than enough) is a simple task for her, that all my arms ARE cl100. Hell, I even showed you I could create blades MYSELF, without adamantium, that may well be able to penetrate colossus’s eyes!
Frankly, my versatility DWARFS his. i dictate everything that is happening and if i don't want him to hit me he NEVER will. i've proven everything with scans and simple logic.
Since when did I say she was paralyzed I said that it effected her. Unless I was just imagining her dropping her swords and arching her back and face in pain. Which means her Cybernetic arm is directly attached to her nervous system, meaning it is a part of her
Have I not already shown Rogue absorbing Cybernetic beings and their mechanical forms. The only requirement for Rogue to absorb something is that it have a life force. Which Spiral does have.
I'm sorry your just randomly creating new 4 class 100 arms for DH2 out of thin air. I hate to tell you this but you have yet to show Spiral capable of such a feat. She has of course shown the ability to randomly place robotic parts on a human body but nothing with class 100 strength or creating new DH2 Arms.
And Rouge and Colossus each grabbed their own section and in one panel tore apart the webbing not a very good feat at all.
Actually I can it was after Colossus was repaired by Magneto. He just came back stronger than before for some reason.
It doesn't even say he was using Magic. It said he was using Technology, which may have been powered by magic, but it was still technology doing the job. Bad example Leo
He has shown one panel where Colossus was weaker than he was now. And he has shown one scan where the person even says they are using tech.
I've showcased two actual scans of him having a resistance to magic but here is another just for you. http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/...rtsmagicut0.jpg
So that is three instances of Colossus' Magic Immunity after his upgrade. Leo hasn't even produced one scan to counter it.
Well if you want to get technical he never actually made two arms. He made two Forearms. And now scratching is enough to prove that Colossus is going down hard. Even though we have already seen that S'ym was only able to get it no further than an inch. Also note that Colossus continued to fight afterwards without being hampered by the attack.
So let me get this straight your only person that you actually have doing this is Spiral who is the person's process you are trying to refine. That is terrible logic
Also you keep talking about Indy's speed processing. You do realize you don't have it right. The only way you can get her analyzing ability if you took her as a mind category or you took her body and unlocked her mind. So you only have her literal speed not her thinking speed.
What we also know for certain is that Spiral has never worked with Adamantium before or after and that LD as Spiral mentions is a special case not like anything else she has done. So to think based of that one time occurrence that she just has Adamantium just laying around is absurd.
Actually it isn't that he like absorbs the thermal energy. It just doesn't bother him. His body still is effected like any metal is by heat.
Here is a scan of him going red hot: http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/...iummagmasm2.jpg
But even though I am right. I'm going to nip this in the butt right now and keep it from going to the Judges. You see because it is assumed in this Tourney that all powers and abilities work regardless of the other parts of the Amaglam. Why because there are a million things I could nit pick. How is it that Abom can fit into War Machine's Armor even though it is three times to small. Or how is it that Indigo's powers, which are based of her own tech based body, can be used in DH2's body even though he possesses none of the same tech needed to do it? It is because all things are assumed to work together.
It is a non-debatable topic Leo. Nice try but Colossus can summon his Blast Field and it is protected by Colossus' Magic immunity.
BS huh, well if your only thing is that the table didn't break therefore it must have been behind the blast field then that is BS.
So then take notice in the first scan how the sword is not in the Blast field and the tip protruding out. Also notice in the last scan where it isn't even shown to be in the Blast Field at all. I don't think you can get much more concrete Evidence than that Leo. You say my swords will be covered I have just shown where Sam has held sword in direct contact without it being covered. Discussion closed!
Ok I guess it is a good thing that my guy isn't a Flesh bag now is it Leo. My body is made of metal a Sonic Attack won't work. You add in the fact I've already shown my Blast Field protecting me inside and out it has no chance working.
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Just to clarify this Leo's entire plan. He is going to port close to me hope Spiral's Magic gets by my blast field then hit me with Adamantium blades in the eyes or mouth.
1st problem: My Blast Field has Magic Immunity plus the Magic Immunity my swords have and my swords have already been shown directly beating her Magic. Hence why Leo was so adamant on my Swords being behind the Blast Field (Which they aren't). Without his ability to get through my Blast Field his entire plan goes down the drain.
2nd Problem: He can not prove that he even has Adamantium to work with. Seeing as LD was a special case. He is also trying to say that he can use Spiral to refine a process Spiral does and took hours to do in the span of ten minutes. Nothing he has shown will help do it any faster. I'm inclined to say he won't seeing as Adamantium is notoriously hard to refine no matter who you are.
3rd Point: Colossus is stronger, more durable, and my blades will go through him like a hot knife through butter. He has yet to show where even against only Colossus he can cut me with any real damage much less with my added durability from my Blast Shield and Armor(Which I have)
4th Point: His Healing Factor won't save him from being cut in half or his head cut off which I can do in one swipe thanks to the sharpness of my blades and strength of Colossus.
5th Point: He doesn't have any real Super reflexes since he doesn't have Indy's. So he isn't faster than me in battle so him thinking he is going to get me in the eyes or mouth before my I can cut him in half is wrong. Add the fact he doesn't even possess adamantium and his attacks do zero.
His entire plan has fallen apart. I have my Blast Field and my swords, he doesn't have Admantium and as I've already shown he isn't getting the drop on me (I can see and sense Magic). On the other hand he has yet to show where he is going to stop me from cutting him in half with one strike. Other than saying 6>>>>2. Even then I can just cut them off which means he also loses his Adamantium weapons if you believe he has them. He can not do the same to me.
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POST 5
okay, i'm thinking that things have somehow become far too convoluted. i will address a couple quick points, then do something entirely novel in a tournament match.
point 1: barak never used 'tech' in that battle with colossus. they were ATTEMPTING to use tech to DRAIN the magical powers of briton from cap britain. the crimson dawn were powerful, but to perform THAT type of feat, they needed tech, and who did they go to for help? spiral. the draining feat barak performed against colossus was all on his own -- the tech was being used already AGAINST cap britain elsewhere in the book.
so, actually, it was a VERY good example. i showed 2 recent examples that colossus was felled by magics BELOW spiral's. nj has shown him resisting s'ym (he did nothing against baba jaga who had a NATURAL weakness to the steel of his body . . .) 15 years ago.
nice try bunky, but this was previously cleared by goob in the last round. indy's processing power IS in fact a "power" and it is one that kali has. the thinking/analyzing speeds can ONLY be used BECAUSE of dhii's computer brain, which is also fully active because of indy's technopathy. so i have BOTH her thinking speed AND her literal speed. which means, you move in slow motion to me.
okay, i'll leave aside everything else in the hopes of simplifying what has become a somewhat . . . complicated match.
for the sake of argument, i will now concede NJ every single one of his points.
let's review what he wants us to believe:
1. the blast field CAN be used by steel-form colossus. (seems utterly illogical to me. and incidentally, getting powers/bodies/mind that do NOT hinder each other was part of the amalgam challenge. it's why martian should NEVER have taken kitty's body with a tech mind, but trick never even brought it up. the armor fitting abomination is a SPECIAL case, specifically allowed by goob. in my case, it TOOK me finding a technopath to be ABLE to make the combination work. you made a bad meshing choice. colossus steel body cannot physically create the chemical processes needed to generate the field. hell, the guy doesn't even BLEED! his physiology is entirely different from a regular person's. again, there is NO LOGICAL WAY colossus should be able to generate the blast field.)
but, for the sake of argument, let's say he can.
2. the swords are somehow OUTSIDE the blast field and fully functional. again, not something i agree with. where does the field end? regardless, there would be an opening in the field if that is the case. we never see him USE the axe in that scan either. but regardless, let's say the field works like nj says and his swords are free of the field.
so, field up, swords out, shield is also outside the field. MY WORST CASE SCENARIO, right? almost . . . let's also say i don't have adamantium, and though i have 6 arms as nj allowed, let's say 4 of them are only . . . cl25? cl10? (based on what i have shown of her magic, to think spiral is incapable of creating 4 cl100 arms is ridiculous, but . . .) say they're whatever you want, i don't care.
okay, so nj has his dream come true, and gets EVERYTHING he's been arguing for the whole time. let's look at the outcome, shall we?
immediately upon entering the battlefield, spiral and indy sense the swords are outside the field. she knows trying to penetrate the blast field with a spell will be useless. so what to do? first, she hits him with a combination sonics and high level energy bombardment. then she ports away, underneath him, and does it again. then she ports above him and does ity again. and again, and again, forcing him to keep his field up, never coming at him from the same angle, shooting, porting, shooting, porting, always 6 blasts from different angles aimed with computer precision. if he tries to hit me with some kind of kinetic blast, i shield it and port away and continue my long range assault.
the blast field cannot stay up indefinitely.
eventually, sam runs out of energy. it's not a durability thing. his body simply cannot continue to create the necessary reactions. nj's guy will be similarly hindered. i don't care HOW long it takes. with my ability to perceive him as moving at a snail's pace, and my own ENORMOUS maneuverability advantage, i can keep up the combination attack for days if not weeks! no limit on dhii's endurance or power source has been reached.
now, if the sonics don't break his concentration immediately (i'd like to see proof of sam OR peter showing resistance to sonics . . .) then the steady barrage of both will simply force him to deplete his energy. he may even absorb some of the blasts, but with 6 simultaneous blasts coming from all angles and my ability to teleport to new locations as soon as i unleash them, he'll be hit -- A LOT. and these are NOT small blasts . . .
here she ko's a metamorpho . . . clone. all the same abilities as the real one:
i've showed one earlier of her ko'ing thunder at peak density.
the blasts are pretty fuggin uber, easily a match for ironman's armor. there will be a constant barrage of 6 of them, from all angles, raining down on him at all times, along with a sonic attack to FURTHER confound the issue.
now, whether from simply being depleted, or as a result of nj's guy's concentration being broken by the sonics, the blast field WILL FALL. it is a complete, unavoidable, certainty. it may take as long as you want to say it takes, but it WILL FALL. the fact is incontrovertible. and he can do NOTHING about it. he can NEVER HIT ME. i always stay out of his range, and he never knows where i will turn up next.
that's the thing about nj's guy: he needs to get near me to kill me. i have spent 4 posts showing how i can kill him h2h. but if he has his way, with the swords and field, i can kill him from a distance and never worry about him at all.
once the blast field is down, i kill his horse first. that leaves him completely grounded and if it was impossible for him to hit me before, it is beyond that now. it just becomes a matter of time. i keep up the barrage of high level energy attacks and sonics, but to FURTHER complicate his life, i pull a page from magneto's book:
yep, i magnetize colossus's body, forcing his arms to be drawn to his body, forcing his legs together. now, this attack may work even THROUGH the blast field, but even if it doesn't, i just wait til the field IS down. i then i launch him out of the pool, out of pluto's almost non-existent atmosphere, and into space. i follow him and watch him die.
or i can just use my magnetic control to make it next to impossible for him to defend himself and keep up my barrage until he is pummeled into unconsciousness. or i could force him to drop his swords. eventually, my blasts and sonics will ko him, especially hindered as he is my by magnetic assault. and they would likely do so almost the moment his field is dropped.
so, allowing for nj to have EVERYTHING HE WANTS in this battle, he STILL HAS NO CHANCE TO WIN. ZERO.
he is quite simply too one-dimensional. he needs to be next to me to kill me. with my teleportation, my processing speed, my senses and my range attacks, HE WILL NEVER EVER BE ABLE TO GET CLOSE TO ME! even NJ knows this is true.
my WORST CASE SCENARIO has him grounded at the bottom of the pool, pummeled into the same type of gelatin in which we fight, or has him floating dead in outer space. and because of his one-dimensionality, there is not a SINGLE thing he can do about it.
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okay, looks like i'll be unable to get back on before midnight so my opponent -- once again -- gets closing arguments.
anywy, at the start, nj essentially said it would be 2 characters (indy and dhii) against his 3 and he hoped that would be enough to sway judges his way.
he got his wish. the only thing spiral NEEDS to do in this battle is teleport. but even THAT is not necessary as i showed scans of indy being able to do that as well.
if you were following the computer-speed thinking discussion, again, GOOB OK'D THE STRATEGY, but, in keeping with my previous post, even THAT can be eliminated if it makes nj feel better.
i showed scans in my first rd of spiral EFFORTLESSLY tracking and anticipating the movements of a high level speedster. i don't need anything accept spiral's ltd precog and senses to evade nj's guy forever, while simultaneously blasting him with a combination high energy/sonic/magnetic assault that i can keep up indefinitely.
his blast field WILL fall due to either lack of concentration, exhaustion, or simple energy depletion (a blast field colossus cannot even logically project . . .)
his one-dimensional character is simply far out-classed by my multi-dimensional one. i showed i can defeat him h2h should i choose, and i showed i could defeat him without his ever being able to get close to me.
again, there is just no way nj's guy can win this. no way at all.
Now though how to really show just how screwed he really is. You see there are a few key details I left our about my guy. Oh I was just happening to save them for a special case. I'll get to most of them soon but first I'll address somethings.
First I want everyone here to understand something. I do know where Leo's guy is at all times. I see and sense magic Leo hasn't even commented on it because he knows I'm right. So at any given time on the battle field I know where they are and where he is teleporting to. His magic will serve as a guide for me. He will never ever have the drop on me.
Second is that even though Leo says he will be attacking me from far away let's really look at what far away is. Realistically he will be unable to attack me no further than 50 yards. Anything further and my guy will have ample time to dodge it which I won't (Another point for later)
Third is Sonic attack simply will not work because I have a metal brain and a Blast Field that as I've shown protects me both inside and outside. So once again Kali's attack fails her. Also magnetism won't work like he wants to. You see when you magnetize something it doesn't mean it attracts itself. No my body won't be sticking together but any other metal will be. Since Leo's guy is the only one here with I guess that means him. Never knew DH2 got down like that.
Ok then now that we got that out of the way its time to really stick it to Leo.
Ok now that we know I know where Kali is at all times and even where she is going. I also want to point out that Spiral doesn't know I can do this. I on the other hand know Spiral can teleport. So what does this give me the element of surprise. I very deadly one.
I don't even actually have to quote Leo because it makes no difference from this point. His plan is to basically shoot at me and hope he can catch when my Blast Field is down.
There are just a few problems with this.
One is that yes sam does run out of steam eventually. But I have Colossus' body now which doesn't need to eat, breath in this body. My guy can go for a long long time without needing rest.
Still I know that won't be enough so let me show you another aspect of my character I've been hiding. Now everyone knows my weapons can absorb energy and apparently he is more than willing to give to me.
But one aspect of the absorbing that isn't known is that it actually goes into my body
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/...ire03p07ea6.jpg http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/...ire04p04eh3.jpg
Notice the terms energy is going through the body. Up till now though BK had only one outlet for his energy to go and that is back through his swords. Now though I have one other outlet. My blast field which means I now have the ability to to maintain my Blast Field so long as Leo supplies me with energy. So his Uber Blasts only serve to make me that much more Uber now. Also note that the energy taken in generally keeps the properties of the attacks. So if he hits me with Magic my Blast Field just gained high potent Magic defense.
So I don't have to worry about my guy losing my blast field because Leo is all to happy to give me all the energy I need.
Now for the fun part
Remember that little difference I talked about you know the one that I know where she is at all times but she doesn't know I know that and also how he can not attack without being fairly close. Well here is where it get's really fun.
You see her teleporting to a spot with her magic aura means I will literally know where she is teleporting to before she even gets there. There is about a one second time delay on her teleporting. So with this knowledge what do I do. I throw one of my swords at the spot she is teleporting to.
You see Leo has been safe in his little world thinking I can not touch him that when he all of sudden teleports close to me and there is sword right in front of him going through his chest he will be shocked.
Now these next few scan will show that I do possess both the throwing accuracy and strength to get my blade there with both force and precision.
So with that kind of accuracy and power I have no doubts I will be able to throw the sword and hit exactly where her magic aura is teleporting her.
Now if anyone thinks I may overshoot Leo's guy you may be right but it doesn't matter as I can perform this little trick by simply recalling the sword and having it come and stab Kali in the back: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/...hswordtkse4.jpg
So this will take her by surprise. Now say she gets lucky and teleports away that one time. Well I simply throw my other sword to the other location which he will be even more shocked. But what if her gets away a second time. Well as I've already shown I can instantly summon back my weapons. So as soon as I'm going to throw the other sword my first one is already back in my hands. I can repeat this prcoess as much as needed and during this time I never have to worry about my blast field going down.
And if for some reason Leo would have chosen this time to teleport close and try to engage me in H2H I would simply hold my sword out where he is teleporting and she would skew yourself on my sword. Then I just cut her in half.
Now people will ask why does this matter if I get my sword stuck in her from afar.
Well it actually does one very important thing. Remember when I showed that my weapons can absorb and prevent her from using her powers. Well if the sword is stuck in her body it is going to stop her from teleporting. But it won't stop me from teleporting to her.
So I teleport to him while his guy can no longer teleport and is in shock and grab the the handle and cut him in half again.
So I was never really afraid of Leo's guy as I've shown. He teleports close it's an insta win because he basically stabs himself on my sword and can no longer teleport away. If it happens from far away I simply teleport to him and do the same I would in close range.
All the while any energy attacks he may get off only serve to make me stronger.
Leo's guy never really had a chance against mine. The ability to know where he is and is going is simply to valuable an asset for him to overcome.
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Jul 3rd, 2007 11:17 PM
all 6 cl100 arms are capable of morphing into any edged-type weapon I can imagine, or into enormously powerful blast-type weapons.
yep, spiral saves him AND overcomes barak. so, barak's magic is enough to almost kill colossus, and spiral then overcomes barak. the conclusion that can be drawn from that seems pretty clear to me . . .
according to you, he should have been able to keep the field up, grab it, but keep the axe somehow OUTSIDE the field.
