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The Astro Force can only destroy. It has none of the finesse of the OE. A non jobbering Thor would bat the energy away. don't know if he could bat it away over and over. But I'm sure I read a story where Thor deflected a blast nearly or as powerful as Orion's mightiest Blast. Besides, Thor would be speed blitzed to all hell by Superman anyway.
Black Bolt would take out J'onn in a good fight while Sentry cripples Superman easily and then goes and helps Thor get rid of Orion. Team 2 wins decisively.
1. BB could use his voice and take out Superman, MM, and Orion all at once if he really wanted to.
2. Sentry is faster than Superman. He would not allow Superman to speedblitz any of his teammates.
3. If you wanna switch opponents, Thor could take out Superman with magic very easily, Black Bolt could take out Orion using his versatility such as electron rearrangement, the master blow, his voice, etc, and Sentry could murder Martian Manhunter in seconds.
4. When was the last time you ever saw Superman speedblitzing anyone? Sorry, but that's not a usual trait of Superman's to go around speedblitzing, so that's most likely not something Superman would even try to do.
5. Thor > Orion, Black Bolt > Martian Manhunter, and Sentry > Superman. I dont see how this is even much of a fight. Honestly, Sentry and Thor alone could probably win this without Black Bolt's help, or as i said before, Black Bolt could win by himself if he used his voice.
Let me know when blackbolt thor or sentry start pushing out solar system+blasts and then you can start trying to put a allout superman down,superman>>sentry,thor>>martian manhunter but allout orion>>>>>blackbolt.
How is Black Bolt gonna take out Manhunter....Manhunter would mind rape his ass. I heard Sentry is vulnerable to mind rape too. Looks like a three on one against Thor.
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Blackbolt isn't defenseless to telepathy. Maximus couldn't affect him at all. Not saying Jonn would be powerless, but it wouldn't be an easy telepathic win.
Good fight, but I've got to go with team two. They seem to have the overall power and versatility advantage.
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I wouldn't say Team two has the over all power edge at all as long as Orion With his MB and Astro-F0rce are there. And MM has more powers than you can shake a stick at. Now When it comes to the speed factor, you have Superman and MM who use thier speed all of the time, and Orion who can use his if he so chooses but rarely does. The Marvel team does have the advantage when it comes to Energy offence. Superman and MM's vision are pretty uber, but dont' stack up to thor's hammer or BB's energy command. Good thing team one has Team two beat in overall strength and speed. I'd say this match is about as even as one could get.
Team 1 wins. Blackbolt is completely useless in the battle. Supes takes out Blackbolt on his way to speedblitz Thor to hell and Orion and MM takes out Sentry.
Anyone who thinks Team 1 even has a chance here is retarded.
Let me make this short and sweet. You guys are saying Superman and MM speedblitz and hit Team 2 before they can react and all that other shit like they do that often. I havent seen them do that since their pre-crisis days and this is NOT pre-crisis Superman we're talking about here. So if you wanna go by potential and not usual/standard portrayals, Black Bolt screams. Fight over.
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Are they expecting some of the guys not to act or move while they are being speedblitz? BB just whistles and the speedblitz is rendered ineffective. I'm not saying that Team 2 takes this but it will be an interesting fight and not a win via speedblitz...
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So sentry is faster than superman? and sentry can speedblitz? where is the proof? for sure superman has 50 times the speedblitzing feats that sentry has(sentry as of right now has none=0)
Superman not only speedblitzed mongul(or his son)..but used two or three powers at once while speedblitzing...post crisis
If needed i can get the issue number...but i am at work...it was when mongul was trying to prepare superman for imperiex...mongul is training with supes(believe it)
If black bolt screams...is not superman and MM faster than sound? if thats how blackbolts power works
Sentry will murder Martian Manhunter? show me a feat where sentry takes on a foe who can turn intangible and use mind powers and shapeshift and use martian vision
I could go on because you like to say people with different views than you are retarded... i think you have been rude and ignorant of the issues you try and debate