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The Punisher vs The Terminator
Frank Castle vs The T800 from the first Terminator movie
Frank has his regular heat with him and he has one our to prepare himself..
Who would win in a fight?
Frank loses. One hour of prep would be devastating for the Terminator - except for the fact that prep doesn't automatically give anything but basic knowledge, meaning he won't think to pack anything big enough to take him down.
I think 1 hour Prep is more than enough time for frank to come up with something to beat the Terminator. Basic knowledge it that the Term is a cyborg. A few booby traps and explosives can greatly damage the terminator. A rocket launcher would help too.
I dont know about that soljer. If its basic knowledge and present and hes a mass murderer, it should also be noted that it is said that hes from the future. Either that of very heavily armored. Although nobody believes that, it should/would still be noted/on file.
Prep doesn't mean you get 'files' on him. It means you get general knowledge. All the general knowledge is (judging from police reaction in terminator 2) is that this guy killed a whole bunch of people.
Meaning, Frank shows up strapped with some pretty impressive guns, but not any significant amount of explosives - and even if he DID show up with said explosives, he'd be INCREDIBLY hard pressed to get the Terminator with them, anyways.
Assuming this Terminator was programmed to terminate Frank Castle, and not someone Frank was protecting....it'd be the T-800's fight to lose.
Well if you think about it, there really isint general PUBLIC knowledge of him. The only ones that have real general knowledge is the police. They have the camera footage of what he did in the precinct. The pic that was taken at the mall was just him going through glass if im not mistaken.
The police have on file from Sarah AND Reese that its a machine/cyborg from the future. They dont believe it and assume its just very heavily armored because of all the gunfire its able to withstand. It would still be on file though.
The reaction from the police in 2, was that its the guy from the mall and from before, yet they had the entire police squad out there. By that alone, Punisher would know to pack very heavy. Because its the terminator from part 1, i think Frank has a good chance to set him up for explosives considering it didnt seem that durable against explosions. Plus because he has prep, it almost ensures it would get caught, because the Terminator would come for him.
Wait; how did you figure it wasn't very durable against explosions?
He was pretty much unscathed till reece put an explosive INSIDE his chassis. An option he only had because the Terminator was assigned to terminate Sarah - not Reece. He was ignoring Reece. Something that Frank won't have the luxury of.
I mean, straight up, if Frank knows exactly what's coming, he could easily prep to take down the Terminator in an hour.
However; if you think he's gonna mess him up with a little electricity or a pack of C4, then you're severely underestimating the Terminator.
Besides; you're not allowed to modify the battlefield during preparation, unless specifically allowed by the original poster. He wouldn't have time to set up any 'booby traps.'
When it was in the explosion with the 18 wheeler and got out, it was limping due to the messed up leg.
Yes the bomb did blow him in half. But he was already kinda messed up before that. Reese didnt have half the arsenal Punisher has here. Also, i think C4 would do some pretty good damage to the Terminator. Electricity? Maybe not, but i wouldnt be surprised if it did.
Also, how im a modifying the battlefield? Punisher has a hour prep. I dont have any doubts that hed set off some exlosives to blow once the Terminator approaches. Most of the tings he needs, he probably already has availalble.
Preparation doesn't allow you to set 'traps' and the like, unless the thread starter specifically says so. Prep allows you to plan a course of attack, and gather resources. That's about it.
Further; it took plasma weapons to finally start taking out Terminators.
If it were as simple as a shaped charge, skynet never would have taken over.
Really? I didnt know that. I thought the gathering also allowed you to set up. What would be the difference between that and gathering the weapons and taking them out with you?
Did it? Im sure they were taking out the Terms before the plasma. Its jsut that as the future went on, plasma became more efficient. Skynet took over mainly because the humans were cought of guard and Skynet controlled most computer/defense stuff.
Before Plasma weapons became more common, the human resistance could hardly scratch the terminators. If terminators were on the field of combat, the resistance's plan was, simply, to run.
Hence why it was such a huge feat for the resistance to 'capture' and reprogram arnie.
That might be the case but the termiantor was still beaten in the 20th century. The T-800 has shown that it is vulnerbale to powerful explosions and im pretty sure that Frank has some pretty powerful explosives.
Since Frank knows that it took out an entire preceinct of policeman and has taken machine gunfire like nothing hes going to be packing explosives.
Furthermore because Frank doesnt know exactlyt what hes dealing with hes probably not going to take any risks.
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