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To the People who feel Darkseid>=Odin.....

From what comics do you draw this conclusion?

Cuz i really don't get it.


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Oh crap. Here it comes.

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...pre-crisis stuff probably though, which is still valid for DS if memory serves.


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It's obvious. erm

Just take every low or unappealing showing, and put it in the "Crap that didn't happen" pile.

You'll realize Darkseid's proper placement quite quickly.

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Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
It's obvious. erm

Just take every low or unappealing showing, and put it in the "Crap that didn't happen" pile.

You'll realize Darkseid's proper placement quite quickly.

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He got clobbered by Doomsday.

Easily above-skyfather feat.


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From what comics do you draw this conclusion?

Cuz i really don't get it.


If you take both of thier high end feats, DS just has better one. He's collapsed a fifth of a reality. His power lent, fought off The ALE being. He has hurt one universal being, One multiversal being, one Omniversal being and held in check another, albiet with tech or what ever. He has created alternate realities over and over. DS also has the ability to draw power out of beings more powerful than he. He did this to desaad who wielded the omega power and highfather's staff. And DS was powerless when he did this. Even if He and odin where all around tied, DS could still suck odin dry for a win. Especially given DS is shown to take magical beings powers and add them to his own might.


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Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
It's obvious. erm

Just take every low or unappealing showing, and put it in the "Crap that didn't happen" pile.

You'll realize Darkseid's proper placement quite quickly.
That is exactly what some Ds followers do on here. You nailed it.



Odin>>>Darkseid.

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Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
It's obvious. erm

Just take every low or unappealing showing, and put it in the "Crap that didn't happen" pile.

You'll realize Darkseid's proper placement quite quickly.


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If you take both of thier high end feats, DS just has better one. He's collapsed a fifth of a reality. His power lent, fought off The ALE being. He has hurt one universal being, One multiversal being, one Omniversal being and held in check another, albiet with tech or what ever. He has created alternate realities over and over. DS also has the ability to draw power out of beings more powerful than he. He did this to desaad who wielded the omega power and highfather's staff. And DS was powerless when he did this. Even if He and odin where all around tied, DS could still suck odin dry for a win. Especially given DS is shown to take magical beings powers and add them to his own might.
laughing laughing laughing laughing

He got beat down by Doomsday in three panels. Batman made him bleed. Superman made him tap out. Superman threw him into the source wall. Marvel casually deflected his attack as if it were nothing.


laughing laughing out loud rolling on floor laughing


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I don't think that but here are some showings:



*Creating Stayne (Takion's equal)

*Was shown matching Highfather in a flashback (I think Highfather is Skyfather level but not equal to Odin)

*Imprisoning Godwave Ares in an energy field (a bit unclear as a showing since he was inside of a space-ship when the field went up, although it was stated earlier in the comic that the ship was totalled and using most of its power to stabilize one level's floor)

*Imprisoning The Infinity Man in some odd area of the cosmos with a barrier that IM almost killed himself trying to penetrate (nor necessarily an Odin level feat but I think a Skyfather level one)

*The GDS feats, including IMO the most impressive which was devolving Pre-Zero Hour Validus in a Post-Crisis comic

*Delivering the blast that left The Anti-Monitor dying, although it's unclear whether he channelled his energy through Alex using Apokolips tech or if he actually channelled the energy of Apokolips

*Repowering the entire planet of Apokolips when it was out of juice

*The fact that he apparently created Eclipso (not just the current version)

*The Lords of Chaos slinking back when Desaad in Darkseid's guise yelled at them

*Yuga Khan's statement about DS' power

*Wiping out Aggog, who owned Orion and Lightray (this is more due to the nature of the wipeout beams IMO)

*Creating an avatar that defeated the demon Blasphemy more handidly than Etrigan did

*While depowered, vaporizing missiles that Superman couldn't put a dent in while going all out (Skyfather level raw showing of raw energy power IMO, although he clearly had a sub-Skyfather showing of durability in the same comic)

*Destroying Pantheons



I think you could make an argument that these showings are on Odin's level, although I don't necessarily agree with it. A few of them are IMO, but most aren't.

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Where is the whole "crap that didn't happen" thing coming from? It sounds kinda silly. I mean know one really ignores low showings, it just happens to be that most have been debunked.

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I only read the first line of Nvr's... but Darkseid fought off the ALE, or he turned off his machine so he wouldn't be overloaded with power... from the ALE?


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laughing laughing laughing laughing

He got beat down by Doomsday in three panels. Batman made him bleed. Superman made him tap out. Superman threw him into the source wall. Marvel casually deflected his attack as if it were nothing.


laughing laughing out loud rolling on floor laughing


And Odin doesn't have low feats? I said that if you take thier highest feats and stack them, DS has far better ones, and more of them. Odin and three other skyfathers sent out all the power they could muster and all it could do was rock a planet. now please leave me be. do not respond to me any more. You are an xyz to me.


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Where is the whole "crap that didn't happen" thing coming from? It sounds kinda silly. I mean know one really ignores low showings, it just happens to be that most have been debunked.
Why did like three people cosign it then. Becuz you happen to be a Ds supporter of course you dont see it.


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And Odin doesn't have low feats? I said that if you take thier highest feats and stack them, DS has far better ones, and more of them. Odin and three other skyfathers sent out all the power they could muster and all it could do was rock a planet. now please leave me be. do not respond to me any more. You are an xyz to me.
Ds's low showings make him look like a bich. An utter bich who submits to lesser beings and lasts less than three panels.


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I only read the first line of Nvr's... but Darkseid fought off the ALE, or he turned off his machine so he wouldn't be overloaded with power... from the ALE?
Dont read nvers posts its bad for your brain.


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Why did like three people cosign it then. Becuz you happen to be a Ds supporter of course you dont see it.
That's why I asked. Typical that you would ignore important details. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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I only read the first line of Nvr's... but Darkseid fought off the ALE, or he turned off his machine so he wouldn't be overloaded with power... from the ALE?


UM, DS and the cinque of power, collectively fought off the ALE briefly before destroying a universe.


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And Odin doesn't have low feats? I said that if you take thier highest feats and stack them, DS has far better ones, and more of them. Odin and three other skyfathers sent out all the power they could muster and all it could do was rock a planet. now please leave me be. do not respond to me any more. You are an xyz to me.
Odin does, but I'd challenge you to name them. smile

Possibly because all of their power was directed at a f*cking Celestial! Not the planet. smile


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Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
I don't think that but here are some showings:



*Creating Stayne (Takion's equal)

*Was shown matching Highfather in a flashback (I think Highfather is Skyfather level but not equal to Odin)

*Imprisoning Godwave Ares in an energy field (a bit unclear as a showing since he was inside of a space-ship when the field went up, although it was stated earlier in the comic that the ship was totalled and using most of its power to stabilize one level's floor)

*Imprisoning The Infinity Man in some odd area of the cosmos with a barrier that IM almost killed himself trying to penetrate (nor necessarily an Odin level feat but I think a Skyfather level one)

*The GDS feats, including IMO the most impressive which was devolving Pre-Zero Hour Validus in a Post-Crisis comic

*Delivering the blast that left The Anti-Monitor dying, although it's unclear whether he channelled his energy through Alex using Apokolips tech or if he actually channelled the energy of Apokolips

*Repowering the entire planet of Apokolips when it was out of juice

*The fact that he apparently created Eclipso (not just the current version)

*The Lords of Chaos slinking back when Desaad in Darkseid's guise yelled at them

*Yuga Khan's statement about DS' power

*Wiping out Aggog, who owned Orion and Lightray (this is more due to the nature of the wipeout beams IMO)

*Creating an avatar that defeated the demon Blasphemy more handidly than Etrigan did

*While depowered, vaporizing missiles that Superman couldn't put a dent in while going all out (Skyfather level raw showing of raw energy power IMO, although he clearly had a sub-Skyfather showing of durability in the same comic)

*Destroying Pantheons



I think you could make an argument that these showings are on Odin's level, although I don't necessarily agree with it. A few of them are IMO, but most aren't.
Gds doesnt count but thanks for bringing it up.


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