if batman had the balls to pack heat he would have killed joker in their first meeting, it's batman's cowardice that allowed the joker to kill all the people he did throughout his career by not permanently taking him down.........castle would do that for fun.
i know some people will get mad but, imo punisher is batman bloodlusted and with more balls.
thats what makes castle a lesser charecter.its not about how many guns you pack or how many people you kill its about strength of charecter.and im afraid castle hasnt got shit on batmans strength of charecter.the reason he hasnt killed joker because that would make him as bad as the joker himself it has been stated numerous times.batman could kill joker just by touching his chest with the right finger positions and right amount of pressure exerted.
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yeah well, that "strength of character" is a front if it stops you from killing a well know non-reformable sociopath for good. i mean, how many times can you put a guy in jail only for him to miraculously escape and endanger thousands again for eternity. frank rather cap him and move on to the next dirtbag.
castle simple realizes all violent criminals are trash so he puts them in the garbage.......batman should take notes.
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spite thread, joker wouldn't last a week in punisher ny.
if punisher had joker as a rogue;
-punisher would violently interrogate thug upon thug to get info on joker.
-freeze his import/export, racketeering, laundering, and drug businesses with explosives and murder.
-kill all his men, no one gets away to alert their boss.
-joker is pulling his green hair out at this point since his business is crumbling and other mob bosses are sending hit squads to re coup their money/territory.
-this all leads up to the grand meeting between frank and the joker,
a physical fight is asinine as is a gun showdown, all joker has left is running away (as usual) but frank will have his HQ soaked in claymores and plastique explosives + he will have an colt assault rifle in his hand, a magnum on his hip, nades and combat knives too. joker dies that day.
Is it cowardism to not kill someone? Batman is anything but a coward. It simply defy his princips to kill. Besides, how many times have not Joker had the chance to kill Batman? PLENTY.
Joker will win against Punisher.
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and batman isn't a total coward, just a man that is allergic to firearms......
killing joker doesn't make bruce anything but a hero, that stupid logic of him being "just as bad as him" is BS, it is just a way of keeping joker alive. punisher villains come back after re-constructive surgery after a near-death experience, not by letting them get away to further plague humanity...
batman would let hitler get away to right? good thing he wasn't in wwII and steve rogers was. killing murderers is neccisary.
there would be no way for joker to live after castle deems him prey, all it would take is a magnum and a bus ticket.
Joker would kill Punisher before Punisher would kill Joker if they both put their minds to it. Once Joker understands that he isn't dealing with Batman, he'd get downright serious. He's a genius in his own way. And genius can overcome pure grit and relentlessness. Frankly speaking, I am also of the belief that Joker has better survival feats than Castle does. Punisher at best, would manage to suicide himself and take out Joker as well if Joker were to engage in some convulted shenangians. But like I said, Joker ought to recognize a stone-cold killer when he sees one. So he wouldn't fool around.
After the 20th time you apprehend a serial killing, mass murdering psychopath and he escapes and does the same things all over again, adhering to your principles becomes nothing short of idiotic. Batman is a vet who keeps letting rabid dogs go home because he can't go through with what needs to be done. People die as a result of Batman's decision... and he continues to make the same decision over and over again. How noble is that?
Joker wins.
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^ I can understand your initial preconceptions. But a tactical nuke would surely hurt innocents. And Punisher would never allow that to happen. And if he evacuated the area, then that would surely tip off the Joker and give him fair warning...
i was just stating that castle has heavy duty arms up to and including a tactical nuclear explosive devise. anyway, frank busts out a barret 50. semi-automatic
sniper rifle and gives joker new air holes....from 500 meters away.
clowns tend to stand out amongst other criminals.
p.s. since you are on your pc right now, just imagine punisher is got you dead in his reticle sight with a 50. semi-automatic rifle that can drop a rhinoceros from 2 miles away....sorry you can't, since your head would already be sauce.
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Yeah... but you're assuming Joker is already in his sights and unawares. I mean... Joker also has prep. And he's got lots of goons and connections in the underworld to help him not get ambushed. It's not like Joker is walking into a warehouse where Punisher has had several hours of prep.
^ Truth. But would a common knowledge Joker be flamboyant while confronting the threat of the Punisher? I think that's the only point where we differ. I think Joker knowing who his opponent is, would not act like he would if he were confronting Batman. Otherwise, I agree with everything else you say.
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