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KGBeast, Redhood, Nightwing, Deathstoke Vs. DD, Punisher, Nick Fury, Captain America
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KGBeast, Redhood, Nightwing, Deathstoke Vs. DD, Punisher, Nick Fury, Captain America

Battle takes place in a urban setting, all characters are standard equipment, both teams start at opposite ends of the city.

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In my opinion, the match is pretty evenly balanced, how ever I do think team 1 would have the slight advantage with Slade.

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Marvel team in a riut.

KGBeast gets destroyed, Punisher probably goes down.

Cap is better than anyone on the other team in a fight.

DD can beat everyone but Deathstroke

and Fury is at least as formidable as Nightwing-before super gadgets get brought into the equation. He's stalemated Cap with those gadgets.

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yeah but this is all standard equipment, which is why i think nightwing would take down punisher or nick fury, if we brought super gadgets into play, then Deathstroke would heavily stock his team, by the way slade has his meta nades.

Aside from all of this I think its a toss up between red hood and punisher, and a toss up between kgbeast and dd.

I think slade has the advantage over cap, and nightwing could take nick.

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I think KGBeast puts team 1 ahead. He has some mean feats.

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I think KGBeast puts team 1 ahead. He has some mean feats.

like getting beat up by Nightwing and Robin.

Aug 13th, 2008 03:28 AM

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Originally posted by Board Walker
yeah but this is all standard equipment, which is why i think nightwing would take down punisher or nick fury,

Not really, considering the fact thatFury has better gagdetry than anyone on the DC team 1.

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if we brought super gadgets into play, then Deathstroke would heavily stock his team, by the way slade has his meta nades.

Uh...Nickm had Sheild. Slade is nowhere near has resourceful and has nowhere near the tech Fury has.
Do you know anything about Fury?

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Aside from all of this I think its a toss up between red hood and punisher, and a toss up between kgbeast and dd.

Hood would beat Punisher,

DD(matched Cap, beat Black Panther, Sabretooth, Wolverine, Elektra) STOMPS KGBeast(beaten by Nightwing, Arsenal, Bane, etc) into the ground.

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I think slade has the advantage over cap, and nightwing could take nick.

Slade is less skilled than Cap and cannot beat him more often than not, and Nightwing is a rookie to Fury, who is on Batman's level.

like I said, Team 2 in a stomp.

Aug 13th, 2008 07:48 PM

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Not really, considering the fact thatFury has better gagdetry than anyone on the DC team 1.

Uh...Nickm had Sheild. Slade is nowhere near has resourceful and has nowhere near the tech Fury has.
Do you know anything about Fury?

Hood would beat Punisher,

DD(matched Cap, beat Black Panther, Sabretooth, Wolverine, Elektra) STOMPS KGBeast(beaten by Nightwing, Arsenal, Bane, etc) into the ground.

SLADE IS LESS SKILLED THAN CAP?!!!??
Where the hell is your proof?...

Slade is less skilled than Cap and cannot beat him more often than not, and Nightwing is a rookie to Fury, who is on Batman's level.

like I said, Team 2 in a stomp.

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Not really, considering the fact thatFury has better gagdetry than anyone on the DC team 1.

Uh...Nickm had Sheild. Slade is nowhere near has resourceful and has nowhere near the tech Fury has.
Do you know anything about Fury?

Hood would beat Punisher,

DD(matched Cap, beat Black Panther, Sabretooth, Wolverine, Elektra) STOMPS KGBeast(beaten by Nightwing, Arsenal, Bane, etc) into the ground.

Slade is less skilled than Cap and cannot beat him more often than not, and Nightwing is a rookie to Fury, who is on Batman's level.

like I said, Team 2 in a stomp.

SLADE IS LESS SKILLED THAN CAP??!!!!??
Where the hell is your proof?...

Aug 13th, 2008 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by panthergod
Not really, considering the fact thatFury has better gagdetry than anyone on the DC team 1.

Uh...Nickm had Sheild. Slade is nowhere near has resourceful and has nowhere near the tech Fury has.
Do you know anything about Fury?

Hood would beat Punisher,

DD(matched Cap, beat Black Panther, Sabretooth, Wolverine, Elektra) STOMPS KGBeast(beaten by Nightwing, Arsenal, Bane, etc) into the ground.

Slade is less skilled than Cap and cannot beat him more often than not, and Nightwing is a rookie to Fury, who is on Batman's level.

like I said, Team 2 in a stomp.

purely your opinion, show me that cap is superior in skill to slade, slade has take on the jla before, taken speedsters, beat kyle in a battle of will over his own ring.

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purely your opinion, show me that cap is superior in skill to slade,

Slade never been on Cap's level for purew skill, Slades inferior to Batman when it comes to skill.

Cap is the most skilled physical human combatant in the marvel u besides people like Mantis.

Slade is physically superior to people like Batman. that and his tactical abilties allow him to beat a Batman.

Cap has all of those advantages plus superior skill.

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slade has take on the jla before,

Using prep-time.

Cap's tossed around the Hulk, beat up Iron man, beat up Spider-Man, Namor, etc etc.

Slade is on Cap's level but Cap is simply more skilled.

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taken speedsters,

Using his tactical abilties, with a healthy dose of jobbing on the speedsters part.

So has Cap.

For that matter, so has a rookie Conner Hawke.

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beat kyle in a battle of will over his own ring.

Is that supposed to be impressive, considering that neither Kyle or Slade are on Cap's level when it comes to willpower?

Cap is on the Hal Jordan/Superman/Batman level when it comes to willpower.

Aug 13th, 2008 09:19 PM

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Team 2 wins the stipulations allow prep and there are 3 people very good at prep on team 2, while team 1 has only 2 people.

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Hood would beat Punisher,

Probably not actually.

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Team 1.

Deathstroke solos.

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Originally posted by panthergod
Slade never been on Cap's level for purew skill, Slades inferior to Batman when it comes to skill.

Cap is the most skilled physical human combatant in the marvel u besides people like Mantis.

Slade is physically superior to people like Batman. that and his tactical abilties allow him to beat a Batman.

Cap has all of those advantages plus superior skill.

Using prep-time.

Cap's tossed around the Hulk, beat up Iron man, beat up Spider-Man, Namor, etc etc.

Slade is on Cap's level but Cap is simply more skilled.

Using his tactical abilties, with a healthy dose of jobbing on the speedsters part.

So has Cap.

For that matter, so has a rookie Conner Hawke.

Is that supposed to be impressive, considering that neither Kyle or Slade are on Cap's level when it comes to willpower?

Cap is on the Hal Jordan/Superman/Batman level when it comes to willpower.

slade fought batman to a standstill yet u say slade is inferior to Batman? confused

it's hard to take your opinion seriously when the foundations for your argument is flawed...

Aug 14th, 2008 04:59 PM

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slade fought batman to a standstill yet u say slade is inferior to Batman?

it's hard to take your opinion seriously when the foundations for your argument is flawed...

Er Batman did lose the fight, so yeah hes inferior.

Aug 14th, 2008 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by TheGame17
slade fought batman to a standstill yet u say slade is inferior to Batman?

it's hard to take your opinion seriously when the foundations for your argument is flawed...

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You might want to know the first thing about the characters before you act like you have the authority to judge anyone opinions on them.

Deathstroke >Batman in combat because Deathstroke physical stats, high skill and enhanced tactical brain trump Batman's superior skill but inferior physical stats. and Cap is basically Desthstroke's physical equal(Where Slade is slightlly faster and more agile than Cap, Cap is stronger and more durable than Slade) with Batman's higher Elite skill level--well, actually, Cap's MORE skilled than Batman, so that makes it even worse.

Deathstroke vs Cap is a sick fight, but Cap is clearly superior.

Aug 14th, 2008 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by panthergod
You might want to know the first thing about the characters before you act like you have the authority to judge anyone opinions on them.

Deathstroke >Batman in combat because Deathstroke physical stats, high skill and enhanced tactical brain trump Batman's superior skill but inferior physical stats. and Cap is basically Desthstroke's physical equal(Where Slade is slightlly faster and more agile than Cap, Cap is stronger and more durable than Slade) with Batman's higher Elite skill level--well, actually, Cap's MORE skilled than Batman, so that makes it even worse.

Deathstroke vs Cap is a sick fight, but Cap is clearly superior.

My bad. i mis-read one of yur quotes and thought u said Batman > slade.

But anyway, Batman and Cap are pretty even. Cap would meet the same fate as batman did when he went up against slade.

Aug 14th, 2008 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by panthergod
Slade never been on Cap's level for purew skill, Slades inferior to Batman when it comes to skill.

ok ya this is what threw me off. U said slade is inferior to Batman when it comes to skill.

Here's how i see it:
Eventually, i believe Cap could beat Batman after a very LONNNNG fight, which would make him slightly better at fighting. But overall, Batman and Captain America are on the same level.
Slade however, is at a level above them because of his enchancements, as it was shown in the scans u posted.

Cap would lose to Slade in a similar fashion

I think team 1 takes this 6-7/10...

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